January 2024

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  Hello, I'm Ternera. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Draft talk:John's Crazy Socks have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Ternera (talk) 20:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Draft talk:John Cronin (entrepreneur). While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Ternera (talk) 20:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Welcome!

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Hello, Mxcronin, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

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Guidance

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Hi Mxcronin, in response to your query at WT:Sockpuppet investigations/Mxcronin regarding continuing to edit the draft, the draft is now deleted since it was created by someone working for an editor who was blocked some time ago for Undisclosed paid editing and Sockpuppetry. I understand you hired them not knowing the history or Wikipedia's policies. To be clear, paid editing is allowed but it has to be disclosed and the editor is required (just like any other) to abide by all the other policies and guidelines and this editor/group of editors violated several. From what I understand John is a relative and the two of you have a business so what you need to do immediately is to disclose your WP:COI on your User page (User:Mxcronin) by placing this template: {{UserboxCOI|John Cronin (entrepreneur)|John's Crazy Socks}} (include the curly brackets).

As for an article, you can create a new draft following the Articles for creation process but I suggest reading Your first article and familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I did take a look at the draft about John a while back and based on the sources provided, I am not sure it would pass notability because most of the sources were interviews/based on what you and John say which is considered mostly a primary source and not independent even if published by a reputable source. However, there could be other sources available. The best sources have little to no input by those affiliated with the subject and contains the author's own research, analysis, etc. (see secondary source). Please also be aware the case is still open so I strongly suggest waiting until it is closed which could take some time. S0091 (talk) 15:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi again, the case is now closed so you can start a new draft. I suggest using the Visual Editor rather than Source and see WP:INTREFVE for how to add sources. The Automatic function works for most URLs. Given the horrible experience you have had, I am happy to take a look/provide guidance once you get started (for free! which what Wikipedia editors do). Just click the "talk" link by my signature to leave me message on my talk page or you can ping me here (click Reply then select my user name under the person icon). S0091 (talk) 16:19, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation: John's Crazy Socks has been accepted

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John's Crazy Socks, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

- FitIndia Talk (Admin on Commons) 14:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)Reply


Hello and thank you, User:Fitindia, for approving the article. I just created an article for John. Could you review that as well? He is an entrepreneur who happens to have Down syndrome, and he has received the Henry Viscardi Achievement Awards and the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award. I already had a copy of his draft but, I made some additional changes. I was told that being his father, I can't post his page myself and need to submit it for review. I have created and submitted it. I would appreciate your help and time. The link to his page is Draft:John_Cronin_(entrepreneur)

Thank you, Mark

Your submission at Articles for creation: John Cronin (entrepreneur) has been accepted

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John Cronin (entrepreneur), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

- FitIndia Talk (Admin on Commons) 19:03, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Future updates

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Hi Mxcronin, Please declare your conflict of interest on the talk pages of articles in which you have a COI, following the instructions at WP:DISCLOSE.

If you have future updates to John Cronin (entrepreneur) or John's Crazy Socks, as a COI editor, pleas post as requests at Talk:John Cronin (entrepreneur) and/or Talk:John's Crazy Socks, as appropriate.

I have both articles on my watchlist and will try to respond within a few days. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Grand'mere Eugene they have disclosed on their User page. S0091 (talk) 20:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, thanks. COI editors are sometimes perceived wrongly by other WP editors — talk page disclosures doesn't cost anything, and IMHO, add to transparency. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I have added a note about my conflict of interest to my user page. Mxcronin (talk) 21:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply