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Speedy deletion nomination of Noesis Chat

A tag has been placed on Noesis Chat requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for web content. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Noesis Systems Ltd

A tag has been placed on Noesis Systems Ltd requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

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Noesis articles

The articles were deleted because they did not make any claim of importance or signficance - the Noesis Chat one said it was a chat site and described the features in detail, but no more than that; there are many chat sites, and Wikipedia is not a business listing directory. What is required to have an entry here is notability, which is not a matter of opinion but needs to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." So the key question is, can you show that? Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. I have read the Lycos article in German Wikipedia - which has its own rules and standards - and looked at the references and links there, and they either were the company's own sites, or were general discussion of chat which did not actually mention Lycos.

If you think you can show notability, reply below here and I will restore the article into your user space for you to work on. It will need considerable rewriting, because at the moment it reads like something written by the company's marketing/PR department - phrases like "ensure your experience... is as pleasurable and safe as it can be", "For a very reasonable amount", "...and much, much more" are marketing-speak, not material for an encyclopedia article, which requires a neutral point of view and a dry, factual style. Indeed, all the description of facilities in terms of what "you" can do - "messages which you can then send to your friends" etc. - seems to be written for a potential user who you are trying to persuade to sign up, and that is not what an encyclopedia article is about.

As far as the company goes, I doubt whether it has enough notability independent of the chat site to have an article of its own - if the chat site gets an article, I would suggest a redirect for the company, so that someone searching on that would get taken to the chat site article.

There is more information you will find useful at WP:Notability (organizations and companies), the WP:FAQ/Organizations and the guide to writing WP:Your first article.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)