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2019 UST Growling Tigers men's basketball team

Hi, do you know how to speed up the review and approval of the draft page Draft:2019 UST Growling Tigers men's basketball team? —  McVahl  Talk  03:17, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, but I do not. I'm relatively new here. I created the draft using the Article Wizard which is probably not the usual practice for those who are submitting new articles.

I made the drafts early this year for the 2016, 2017, 2018 & 2011 basketball teams using the same method and all were reviewed and submitted by Stevey7788 for publishing of Articles for creation after about a few weeks to a month.

NRT^530 (talk) 16:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

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Missvain (talk) 01:26, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

NRT^530 (talk) 12:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

January 2020

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at UST Growling Tigers. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. I cannot easily figure out, right now, if you need to develop more competence in writing on and navigating within Wikipedia, or if you are simply a COI editors who is trying to promote this sports team. What I do know is that a. you are continuously inserting unencyclopedic material (against consensus--material judged unencyclopedic in other discussions) b. you are edit warring c. you are, oddly enough, canvassing other editors to participate in a talk page discussion where you yourself are not saying anything. This really needs to change. Drmies (talk) 01:52, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi. I'm a new user here, having joined only in September 2019.

First, I would like to apologize if my recent edit came out as unconstructive and disruptive. I am not familiar with some of the policies here in Wikipedia, but I would like to reassure you that I do not wish to go into an edit war against any of the editors here. My only intention was to help improve the article and I may have overlooked certain policies by including team members in the paragraphs that I have added.

This will be the last time that I will re-add a previously removed content in the UST Growling Tigers article page and I will try my best to read and familiarize myself with Wikipedia's policies. I definitely need to develop more competence in writing on and navigating within Wikipedia. I apologize once again.

Again, to clarify that my recent edits were not unconstructive and only meant to help improve the article, I have:

• Fixed broken links by updating inline citation to two items in the introduction article;
• Added content to empty sections; and
• Improved appearance by updating tables with a uniformed background color and simplified styles

Lastly, I would also like to know, other than the issue of re-adding previously deleted content, why do you say that my recent edit as a whole is disruptive? I checked the link that you added and this is what I found:

• Tendentious editing – other than the re-added items (which I swear to not do again), I do not see how my writing is in any way partisan;
• Lacks verifiability – I made it a point to place inline citation to the items added exactly for verifiability;
• Disruptive cite-tagging – I do not remember ever doing this;
• Rejects or ignores community input – I have not been able to post in the discussion at the Talk page, but I do intend to do it later. Again, my apologies; and
• Campaign to drive away productive contributors – I did not know that canvassing other editors to participate in a talk page discussion is a bad thing. I was not sure if the talk page is on any of their watch lists and I had thought it in a good way to inform those who have actively contributed to the creation of the article about a new discussion.

Good day.

NRT^530 (talk) 05:34, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

"double-round elimination games"

I suppose you know that UAAP basketball tournaments aren't just "double-round elimination games", (this supposedly means "double elimination tournaments" but the link and phraselogy will give more confused looks than answers) but are in fact multi-stage tournaments of which the double round elimination round is just a part. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Howard the Duck:,

I don't think double-elimination tournament is the same as double-round elimination games. Otherwise, there wouldn't be separate articles if they meant the same thing.

I made the edit on the original text, "the UAAP Season 82 basketball tournaments is the 82nd season of the basketball season of the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) for the 2019–20 school year" because seeing "Season 82" and "basketball season" mentioned twice in one sentence looked redundant. But before I made such edit, I checked first with how the US NCAA season articles were written.

"The 2019 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament was a single-elimination tournament of 68 teams to determine the men's National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) Division I college basketball national champion for the 2018–19 season."

I readily knew that the UAAP basketball tournaments are not elimination tournaments, and in fact are round-robin tournaments. I meant to correct my edits by writing "the UAAP Season 82 basketball tournaments involved 28 teams from eight schools that played double-round elimination games of the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) in the 2019-20 school year" but I got busy with work and never got to do it right away.

I truly appreciate the work that the editors put in here and if any of you find the need to correct my edits, I openly welcome them. Good day.

NRT^530 (talk) 09:16, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

There are problems with what you've used to phrase out the tournament format:

• You said that it's a "double-round elimination games". Without a link, someone will think "ah, it's a double elimination tournament," when it isn't.
• You then linked "double-round elimination games to round-robin tournament. Now this will breed even more confusion, as this is not the reader was expecting to visit.
• You meant to say that the UAAP "is a double round robin tournament". Sure, this is partly true, but it isn't just that, at least since 1952.

"Double round-robin elimination games" to exclusively describe what the UAAP basketball tournaments are partly true at best, a misrepresentation, at worst. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I understand and acknowledge your correction, but I had intended the article to be less vague by specifying the tournament format.

Would it be acceptable if we removed the link to "double round-robin" and added Final Four and Finals to the tournament format? I saw this article just now about the format of the basketball tournaments as well as volleyball's:

"Season 83 basketball and volleyball will retain their usual tournament format... double-round robin (eliminations) with a Final Four and Finals."

NRT^530 (talk) 11:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

A link to UAAP Basketball Championship#Final four format should suffice. "Final Four and Finals" adds nothing, moreso when next to "Double round-robin (eliminations) which sorta explains to you what's that. Howard the Duck (talk) 16:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Understood. Will follow your lead.

Thanks.

NRT^530 (talk) 04:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

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Could you help me ban or block this user User talk:2001:4450:8389:900:C9BA:B8AC:198A:873B who has been disrupting the University of Santo Tomas article? Ang kulit eh. Thank you!Pampi1010 (talk) 17:43, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

His last edit (or vandalism?) was at 7pm (our local time). No other edits followed (even on the UP–UST rivalry and University of Santo Tomas–Legazpi articles) so far after the warning from Airtransat236. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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