User talk:Narky Blert/2016

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		For your help fixing up Viennese Singing Sisters, John Ireland, and probably more that I'm not aware of. I thought you'd want to know that your effort isn't going to waste and that there are people out there who appreciate it. So thanks! Sesamehoneytart 06:43, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

@Sesamehoneytart: Thank you!

Viennese Singing Sisters was a real mess when I found it. It turned out to be an unformatted copy/paste from a blog, without proper citations and with a fair amount of WP:PUFFERY. I'm pleased with the result: I find it much easier to write a new article than to rework an existing one. Narky Blert (talk) 13:16, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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@Damibaru: Feel free to improve! :-D Not just a singer, but an actor too. I was idly YouTubing today, remembered that 1988 Bluebeard film, found it, watched it again, and was transfixed. WTF - no article about her???. Then I discovered she'd pioneered some important roles as well, and rolled up my sleeves. (I'd love to hear her Lied der Waldtaube.) Narky Blert (talk) 01:32, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: She has a beautiful voice! It is especially apparent in the Bluebeard film. Some operatic singers use too much vibrato, too much drama, but not her. Her singing is very natural. Yes, that is a very good way to find Wikipedia articles to create! I often listen to WQXR and based on what I hear (the performers, music, its composer...), I write about it.

BTW, I am a guilty culprit of looking up on Google what Narky Blert means. I wouldn't be that self-deprecating, though. Cheers! Damibaru (talk) 23:24, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Paul Matthew St. Pierre

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Fails WP:NACADEMIC. Can't find anything additional that shows they meet our standards for inclusion. Publications alone do not cut it.

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@Majora: I think I found all I could first time round, I won't contest deletion. If (when) the article goes, I'll check that all redlinks have gone also. Narky Blert (talk) 19:59, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

@Majora:@AustralianRupert: Done&dusted. One mainspace redlink and one empty authorlink= removed. Narky Blert (talk) 01:14, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 01:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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Chief Scout of the Northern Territory

I have reverted you edit. That red link is not going to become an article. There are, I think, less than a dozen Scout Groups in the whole of the NT. Even the Chief Scout of Victoria is not notable. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:58, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

@Bduke: Fair enough - but I dislike links to disambiguation pages. It looks to me as if Chief Scout ought to be a full article, not the (rather poor) disambiguation page which it is now: to distinguish clearly between B-P and the history after him, including both the heads of major Scouting Organisations with worthwhile standalone articles (e.g. Chief Scout (The Scout Association)) and the minor and political appointments (links in only, for readers who don't know what a Chief Scout is). All List(s) of Chief Scouts in XYZ would be See-Also items in such an article, rather than muddled in with the principal topic. (Also, I assume you'd agree that a sports scout is a "Chief scout" not a "Chief Scout"...) A small but useful project for Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting perhaps? (Onetime Senior Scout here.) Narky Blert (talk) 23:28, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

An article on Chief Scout is one solution, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting is pretty thin right now and I do not see consensus about how to write it, nor do I have time. --Bduke (Discussion) 10:23, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

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	Please follow me around and continue what you do. My OK article is now much much better due to your ministrations. Thanks Victuallers (talk) 08:43, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

@Victuallers: Why thank you! I'm more of a disambiguator and general-purpose WikiGnome than a copyeditor; unless I find an article that interests me.

It was only when I noticed the capital 'P' in Spanish Wiki that I realised that she had been compared to La Pasionara; a name I knew - ¡No Pasarán!

I thought of and added another category. Did Aurora write in Catalan or Castilian or both? I suspect only the former. There's this: Category:Catalan writers and its subcategories. Narky Blert (talk) 11:44, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

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@DoRD: TY for your speedy response :-) Narky Blert (talk) 11:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

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Akanksha Sharma

Hi Could you reread article about grammar ? Regards. Could you use the good template for reference for India's Next Top Model (cycle 2), Akanksha Sharma, Hussein Khairan and Vice President of Iraq and High Council of State (Libya) articles ? --Panam2014 (talk) 13:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Is The Pas a city

Please check the Pas i think somethings going on I think  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shark32322 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 14 October 2016 (UTC) 

Thank you and please help with two problems.

Hi,

Noticed you have corrected the link I put in the Yam Kim Fai page, thanks for that. Since you may be in the position to do some edits I am not, I ask for your help to two listed below.

1. zh 劉惠鳴 to be linked to the Lau Wing Ming en page
2. Redirect Loong Kim Sang to Loong Kin Sang, that is, to move Loong Kim Sang to Loong Kin Sang. I have requested for it earlier here.

Thanks in advance.207.102.255.36 (talk) 18:39, 20 October 2016 (UTC) The Redirect appears to be still pending for now. I guess it takes a while to purge. Thanks again.207.102.255.36 (talk) 19:28, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Can I ask you for a new favor that I already tried with somebody else? I have no idea what may the problem be to link them. Is this a complicated edit? Linking four pages together? Thanks again in advance.207.102.255.36 (talk) 19:25, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Precious

link to languages

Thank you for quality articles about music such as Bound for Glory (album) and John Gough (composer), for service in many languages, for disambiguation pages and ill-links, redirects and project tags, for "stubby but needed" and your love for the Petite messe solennelle, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Why thank you very much indeed! Much housekeeping is routine (though still helpful to readers and other editors, which is what it's all about); but there's always the prospect of finding a challenging puzzle to solve. It's helpful to have a smattering of the major European languages, including Russian - would you believe I've linked to at least 32 non-English Wikis? (I haven't yet managed a right-to-left language.) Many {{ill}} links are likely to stay that way for ever - but at least readers can find the information if they want it.

Richard Brinsley Hinds was the article which gave me the most pleasure. All I had was his surname, as binomial authority for a sea creature, pointing to a DAB page. Searching Wiki turned up a few more mentions - including the fact that he'd had a genus named in his honour. I realised that I'd found an important figure, almost lost to history. It took some 20-30 minutes of creative googling to even discover his initials, and a few more still to find his given names. After that it was easy - I found about 15 good 19th century sources without difficulty. I did the best I could, and posted requests for help on the Botany and Zoology project pages. Within a day, five or six other editors had found and added useful information - Wiki at its best! Narky Blert (talk) 12:05, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Lovely to hear about Hinds, - sorry I missed him ;) - I place ill-links wherever I go, see Peter Reulein. Another project for you to join is probably Intertranswiki! I don't like the "expand"-tags so much, - I guess most readers capable of getting something from let's say French will find the French article on a French subject without some bulk on top. I inserted pictures, probably in more than 32, but confess that for Hebrew I had the help of a friend from Israel ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

A year ago, you were recipient no. 1493 of Precious, a prize of QAI! - Talking about tag: what do you think about those for Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: I am doing some research, with the intention of posting a third-party opinion on the Talk Page. In the meantime, the last sentence in this 1883 ADB article might interest you. The ADB article on Andreas Knöpken (by a different author) doesn't mention the hymn. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 11:15, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! I am in the process of writing about a new one, Sonne der Gerechtigkeit. Didn't know about a complex history until I started research a few hours ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:15, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: I have posted (what I hope are) my final conclusions at Talk:Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn.

My searches turned up this link, for no obvious reason. You might wish to bookmark it, in case it has some relevant information for you about Lutheran or Calvinist hymns.

An update. I have now linked to 119 non-English Wikis. Selfishly (I admit it!), I have now started to collect and to count my translations from non-English Wikis. Schloss Zweibrücken got me P(f)älzisch, and De fofftig Penns (I implore you, do NOT listen to their recordings - aber der Artikel ist gut zitiert, nicht?) got me Nedersaksies and Plattdüütsch. 24 languages, and counting. (I thought I had Occitan lined up as another easy language – until my researches into the Counts of Astarac opened up a can of worms about their numbering. I'm after the troubadour, Bernard IV of Astarac.)

On another topic altogether, some clown had stuck a {{notable}} tag on String Quartet No. 3 (Bartók). Yes, really! I took that tag off in a hurry. The article is on my to-do list, but I haven't yet got around to doing more than adding a general reference. I mention it only in case you know of a source or two which I don't. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 23:51, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much for what you researched for the hymn. I'm at a loss at what is "unbalanced". I'll look at your articles next month. "Reformation" is high up on my user page, and for five years at least, - forming RIP, and I prefer ps to NB, because it means PumpkinSky to me ;) (+ you can meet br in my edit notice) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: You're welcome. I could see nothing unbalanced about "Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn" – unless it was the failure to mention Andreas Knöpken, who it seems to me does not need to be mentioned. I thought the WP:WEASEL tag unreasonable. It's only for things like "Some people say <unsourced anecdote>". The "under-referenced" tag was as bad or worse, the History section was full of good citations.

I don't fully trust Hymnary as a WP:RS source of biographical information. It's not always clear where the information is from, or how trustworthy it is. Nevertheless, it sometimes provides details (e.g. dates) not available elsewhere. and those I do trust. On the other hand, its articles on hymns are excellent in supplying publication details – "included in N hymnals" is strong evidence for notability. Cyberhymnal can be another useful source, but it too should be treated with caution.

I agree – it's often only when you start searching that you discover how complex a topic can be.

I was surprised to find that there's no German article on "Sonne der Gerechtigkeit"! Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 12:36, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

There will be a German article, as soon as I will have finished the English. - "Balanced" is (back) on the article, the others are gone. - I have never tagged an article, nor do I plan to do so. It can all be resolved on the article talk. - Never too late to enter the peer review for Bach's cantata for Reformation Day, BWV 80. Perhaps you are the one to write about reception? There's a lot in the Wolff source, only I don't have the time to dig it up, see above. What do you think about the image question? (I was just reverted.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

"Weasel" is also back, as you probably noticed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:23, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Not any longer they aren't. I may not be able to remove them again because of WP:3RR. Now that discussion at Talk:Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn seems to have broken down, the next step might be a post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music asking for further input. Narky Blert (talk) 15:34, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Brianboulton about tags, DYK? - I have two open requests on Classical music with no response, so have limited expections there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

About the ill troubadour above: my help when it comes to French is LouisAlain, unbelievable what he does! Our latest is 4 little prayers, work in progress. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

I have thanked User:Smerus for his contributions to the discussion on "Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn". WP:CONSENSUS may have been reached.

Quatre petites prières?!?! Yet another gaping hole in English Wiki. I've seen Louis-Alain's work before.

Song cycles and the like are poorly covered. Hugo Wolf#Lieder, for example. (I have an incomplete draft on Goethe-Lieder somewhere.) I've written half-a-dozen articles about other notable cycles (mostly by Britten). Do you know Stanford's Songs of the Sea? I wouldn't call it a major work, but it's great fun. Benjamin Luxon. (Please try to forgive the wobbly brass and boxy sound.) On the other hand, I call Priaulx Rainier's Cycle for Declamation a scandalously little-known masterpiece. Very few tenors have taken the risk, it seriously exposes the voice. William George. Narky Blert (talk) 21:18, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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@Uanfala: TY, I hadn't seen that discussion. The consensus sounds good to me, that'll save some effort. Narky Blert (talk) 21:22, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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DAB not needed

WP:INTDAB says, "Links to disambiguation pages from mainspace are typically errors" (my emphasis), not "always errors". In this case, European Artistic Gymnastics Championships is the intended article title, since neither gender's article (men's, women's) is a more appropriate target for the link than the other. There's little reason to link to both articles separately in the table, so this disambiguation request is not necessary, IMO. Please use the article's talk page to make your case if you still feel otherwise. - dcljr (talk) 03:34, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

In light of the other text at WP:INTDAB, I'm wondering if what you're trying to do would be better accomplished by switching the titles of the redirect page (with the word "disambiguation") and its target (without the word "disambiguation"). I've requested discussion about this at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 November 25#European Artistic Gymnastics Championships (disambiguation). If the change is made, the link at List of gymnastics competitions can be changed. - dcljr (talk) 04:10, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

It seems this was correct in the first place, so I've reverted back to that version. Seems kind of silly, but if that's what we're doing nowadays… - dcljr (talk) 04:35, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

@Dcljr: No worries :-) WP:INTDAB is one of those bits of small print in the hopelessly-bloated WP:MOS that not many people know about (and can take a lot of effort to fathom out). The reason behind it is, that User:DPL bot flags direct links to DAB pages as errors. According to its latest report, there are 42,000 such links to 28,000 DAB pages (which is well down on 406,000 to 73,000 four years ago). I estimate that about 10-20% are "technical" errors, where a link to the DAB page is appropriate (as in this instance), and that about 10-20% are insoluble. DPL bot reports around 400 newly-found DAB pages with links every day (some with many links, often the result of a page move), so WP:DPL members do a lot of running to stay in the same place.

Turning to your suggestion of swapping pages - I've been disambiguating pretty much full-time for the last six months or so, and it was only recently that I was pointed towards WP:MALPLACED, a sub-project which handles plain pages that redirect towards (disambiguation) pages. A minor problem, which only experienced disambiguators (or a bot) are likely to notice, and only ones more skilled than I can fix. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 12:00, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

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