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Zeus's son by "Hemera"

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Hello NeoSIMIAN-Terraform. Currently, in the table of offspring and mothers at Zeus, Iasion is listed as Zeus's daughter by "Hemera", with a link to Hemera. This is sourced with:

Cox, George William (1883). An Introduction to the Science of Comparative Mythology and Folklore, pp. 237. Kegan Paul, Trench, & Company.

From looking at this, it seems that you added that entry here, back in October of last year. Do you own the book in question? If so, could you possibly provide a quote or let me know which ancient text Cox has got this version from. Regards, Michael Aurel (talk) 08:42, 13 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Michael Aurel: Hi, unfortunately Cox doesn't seem to have a primary source for this. However, the Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology s.v. Iasion cites Servius's commentary on the Aeneid 3.167. After reading the text, I was unable to find any mention of Hemera or Dies. Also, Smith states that Iasion was the son of a nymph named Hemera, while Cox states that he was the son of the personification of day Hemera. So I think that this version of Iasion's parentage is dubious. I was pretty naive back then and should have checked better.
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Ah, well done. I managed to find Cox on Google Books and looked at a few other sources, but didn't think of checking Smith. I agree that the difference between the two sources makes this a bit dubious. Smith doesn't make it entirely clear which of the sources listed gave this parentage, but as Hyginus (Fabulae 270) and Servius (see Electra (Pleiad)#Family) don't give it, it seems the source is either a scholiast on Theocritus or Eustathius on Homer, neither of which (as far as I know) are available in English, so removing it (which I see you've done) is probably the best idea, since we can't verify the claim. Thanks, Michael Aurel (talk) 10:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
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I've noticed you've been using ToposText for links to Hesiod's Theogony at Zeus, while most (all?) other Theogony links use the version at the Perseus Digital Library. It would be better to be consistent. Paul August 14:35, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

My bad. I will change them. NeoSIMIAN-Terraform (talk) 14:37, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Great, thanks ;-) Paul August 15:02, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
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