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Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

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Hello, Netanya9. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Qwerfjkltalk 08:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template).Reply

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Hi Netanya9! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, Using books by author as source for BLP, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days.

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April 2023

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  Please do not add or change content, as you did at Marc Gafni, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 07:36, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Thanks for reaching out! I belief there are reliable sources added to the content you deleted. Please see my comment on the talk page and please add a summary to your edits. Thank you! Netanya9 (talk) 08:18, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

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False revert reporting

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Your report is false. You reverted 6 times. I have not broken 3RR. You stuffed your false report with first edits from May 2 and May 3 which were not reverts. And you reported initial additions to the lead as reverts, which they were not. It will be you who gets blocked, and you will also need to come clean about the fact that you work for the subject. Skyerise (talk) 23:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

That last revert you made was your 7th. Skyerise (talk) 23:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Also please note that WP:LEAD requires that the lead properly summarize the article. The lead may be up to four paragraphs, and I started a discussion on the talk page about the issue to which you did not reply, which will count against you and show that you are the edit warrior, reverting without engaging or responding on the talk page. Skyerise (talk) 23:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oh, and you might take note that I've been an editor for over 17 years and have over 100,000 edits. And you have 250. You're trying to bully the wrong person here. Skyerise (talk) 23:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

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  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Skyerise (talk) 00:02, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Self-published books

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That book you just added back is self-published via CreateSpace. Did you even visit Google Books via the isbn? Here's the link: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Loving_Your_Way_to_Enlightenment/IHDFoQEACAAJ?hl=en : "Publisher: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform". Skyerise (talk) 00:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

How about a topic ban?

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Hello Netanya9. And good greetings, as always, to Skyerise. Maybe a topic ban on Marc Gafni and very closely related pages would "release" your enjoyment, abilities, and Wikipedia learning curve to take you to other pages and topics. If you have that in you, maybe give that a try. Skyerise would be someone to ask for direction in editing, from time to time, and maybe in/from conflict other things will emerge. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

May 2024

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain pages (Marc Gafni) for edit warring.
During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Bbb23 (talk) 12:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Unblock request

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Netanya9 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

1. I certainly will operate in good faith within the context of Wiki’s guidelines. 2. I’ve been aware of this page for many years. The other editor just joined the page and seemed to be behaving in ways which seems biased to me. The editor was moving huge blocks of text from the section below into the lead, without adding anything and with what seemed to be a clear intent of malice. I apoligize for being triggered by that.

3. I should have discussed this on the talk page first.

4. I had thought that according to Wiki’s rules in the WP:BLP when there is an obviously negative edit which is non intended to clarify or add something, but seemingly intended to damage, you have a right to immediately revert it. Considering the long history of this page with damaging edits, I reverted immediately. In the future I will be more careful with this.

5. I don’t have a conflict of interest. I have created my account with the intent to edit multiple articles and I will continue to do so. I was drawn into this article because it seemed to be edited unfairly.

6. I mean this respectfully and not provocatively, but it seems worth saying that EvergreenFir’s review of the report and block of my account, also seems biased to me, according to their previous communications on @Skyerise talk page they seem connected.

7. I've contributed value to discussions on Marc Gafni's talk page here for many years. @Skyerise who filed the report, is a new (appearing to be biased) account that only exists since April 2024. It could possibly be a sockpuppet account aimed to vandalize this page (as a review of the Talk Page and edit history seems to indicate).

8. It’s important to note that this is a controversial article about a living person (WP:BLP) and an arbitrary move to completely change the lead (which has been validated by consensus) without adding any new information, just by moving up and duplicating material that appears below in the article, seems to be suspect and biased and in violation of Wiki’s core integrity.

9. This block came without any warning. Right after I was notified on my talk page about any issues, there was a report filed.

Thank you. Netanya9 (talk) 15:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Decline reason:

You are blocked from a single article out of the nearly 7 million that are on Wikipedia. You've given no reason here that you need access to that single article. You say you had the intention to edit other articles- then you should do so. Claims of bias need to be accompanied by evidence, what you provided here doesn't qualify. 331dot (talk) 08:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply


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Note for admin: this user needs to be warned against casting aspersions against editors by suggesting they are sockpuppets. I am not a new editor, as this editor falsely suggests, I've been on Wikipedia for over 17 years. Skyerise (talk) 16:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Comment - I have relatively low tolerance for bullshit claims of bias/unfairness as displayed in over 50% of the unblock request (#2, #5, #6, #7, and #8). I'm INVOLVED now but item #6 needs to be addressed. Netanya9 is referring to this close at AN3 which provides a non-working diff as evidence that Skyerise and I are somehow connected. As I commented over on AN3, Netanya9 has 278 edits total, the last 196 were from the past 2.5 years and all related to this one article. Bbb23 made a good block. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Note for admin: I was indeed wrong that Skyerise is not a new editor. The huge edits without any consensus on talk page copy/pasting and therefore duplicating big blocks of text in the lead paragraph, combined with bad editorial quality, made me think this. I was wrong about this.
Here is the requested diff [1] to back up point #6 above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Netanya9 (talkcontribs)
That is the diff? How does that show Skyerise and I are "connected"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvergreenFir (talkcontribs)
(Non-administrator comment) Even then, I doubt this will lead to an unblock. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sockpuppetry investigation notice

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  You are suspected of sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, then, if you wish to do so, respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Netanya9. Thank you. Skyerise (talk) 11:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply


Unblock Request: September 2024

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Netanya9 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Dear Wikipedia Administrators,

I would like to address the block placed on my account due to concerns of sockpuppetry and clarify several misunderstandings that I previously contributed to.

Clarification of the "J3" Account:

While I understand how this may have raised concerns, I would like to clarify that "J3" is not a sockpuppet account of mine. It belongs to another individual with whom I have communicated previously, and we happen to share similar views on the Marc Gafni article. I now realize that their support of my edits, especially following my revert limit, gave the appearance of sockpuppetry. This was not my intention, and I apologize for the confusion.

Focus on the Marc Gafni Article:

Initially, I thought I would spend more time editing a variety of articles on Wikipedia. However, due to time constraints, I have decided to focus my efforts on the Marc Gafni article. I want to be transparent that my primary interest on Wikipedia is contributing to this specific page. I am committed to ensuring that it reflects accurate, well-sourced, and neutral information in line with Wikipedia's policies. While I understand concerns over single-purpose accounts, I assure you that my focus is on maintaining neutrality and quality in this article, and I will adhere to all relevant Wikipedia guidelines.

Acknowledgment of Mistakes:

I recognize that I engaged in multiple reverts without adequately discussing the issues on the Talk page. This was not in line with Wikipedia’s community guidelines, and I regret escalating the situation. In the future, I will ensure that any disputes are handled through proper discussion and consensus-building rather than through repeated edits or outside support.

Apology for Casting Aspersions:

I want to specifically apologize for casting aspersions on fellow editors, particularly the claim that Skyerise and other editors were involved in sockpuppetry or had improper connections. I now understand that these claims were baseless, and I sincerely regret making them. In the future, I will avoid making such accusations unless I have concrete evidence and will work through the appropriate processes.

Commitment to Compliance:

I value Wikipedia's role as a community-driven platform and wish to continue contributing positively to the Marc Gafni page. I pledge to abide by the three-revert rule, participate constructively in discussions on the Talk page, and ensure that all of my edits are policy-compliant and focused on neutrality and accuracy. I will also ensure that I follow all Wikipedia rules regarding editing controversial articles and work within the community to maintain high standards.

I kindly request that you reconsider my block, as I have learned from this experience and am committed to following Wikipedia’s policies moving forward.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely, Netanya9

Decline reason:

Firstly, please do not use AI or ChatGPT to write appeals. Secondly, technical IP address and other data confirmed that you are highly likely the same person, as per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Netanya9/Archive. The above unblock does not do anything to address this. Daniel (talk) 23:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply


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