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Clans of Scotland Wikiproject.\
editHello, there. I'm going around to all the listed participants of the Clans of Scotland WikiProject, asking for a short update on whate they're up to as far as the project goes. I want to see if this project is still viable, and I'm wondering if anyone else is still actively participating. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clans of Scotland#Status.3F. Canaen 19:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Are you disputing the relation between Burnett and Barnes?
editRhode Islander 03:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
No, but I fail to see what the information you added has to do with either the Origin of the name Burnett or with Clan Burnett as a whole. It is information on how the name migrated through the US.
Clan Douglas
editRegarding the Chief of the Name and following of Douglas, while Lyon does assert that is as the case as stands now, there is room to contest this in future, such as a future Earl of Selkirk legally changing his name. The idea that the Clan and Family distinction is a Victorian invention is simply not correct. Hume of Godscroft writing at the turn of the seventeenth century calls his book "A History of the House and Race of Douglas and Angus". Furthermore, the idea that all Scots families are tartan wearing clans does seem to be a Victorian invention cf. Vestiarium Scoticum. The Earl of Douglas was known by contemporary chroniclers such as Froissart, Fordun etc. as that most "puissant prince", an indication of the House of Douglas' martial prowess and semi-regal power, indeed the 4th Earl of Douglas being given, albeit briefly before his death a French Royal Dukedom. The Douglases were a noted European family, and were very much European in outlook, speaking Scots, French and English. In those languages it's: Hoose, House, Maison! Cheers. Brendandh 18:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
copied from Talk:Clan Douglas
Momento
editIf petedavo had cared to read the above, regarding the OED definition of "house" here, or that of dynasty here,then perhaps he would not be so confused. The history of the House of Douglas is a mirror of that of the Kingdom of Scotland, it does not require a regnal seat to qualify for the accolade of a "regnal" style. If one were to read Froissart, there is ample testament to the Noble and Puissant Princes that have been so styled from the 14th century, of both Douglas and Angus lines. In the later Middle Ages and Early Modern period members were the Power brokers of Scotland. The history of the chiefs of this house, and their cadets is enormously notable within medieval and early modern Scots history, and while the aspirations of the contemporary N. American organisations such as the CDSNA are maybe to be encouraged, they do not have a monopoly on real fact. The House of Douglas is not and was not a 'Clan', they were not Gaels, they may be referred to informally as a 'clan', a parallel differentiation can be made between the Proper and common nouns, 'Conservative' and 'conservative'. This from the 9th living heir male in direct line from William I, Lord of Douglas . Brendandh 18:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- I read what you wrote on the Douglas Talk page, however, I don't agree with your assertion that Clan Douglas is an incorrect usage. I take my cue from the Court of the Lord Lyon who is the final arbiter on all arms in Scotland and all documents from the court refer to Clan Douglas, not House. What you also need to take into account is that the Douglas-Hamiltons are barred from matriculation as chiefs of Clan Douglas, but if they can style themselves as head of the House of Douglas they sidestep the legalities of their position. I do not doubt or underplay the importance that the Douglases played throughout Scottish history, but you seem to be confusing their eminence with their current status. If you feel the need to write an article documenting the 'House of Douglas please go ahead, but I think you will be largely repeating information that is in this article and adding very little. Nfras 00:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
This guy, 88.89.143.180, has inserted some text in the middle of your paragraph about Field Marshall Prince Michael Andreas Barclay de Tolly. This makes the second part of the paragraph refer to a different person. I have no knowledge of these matters, but it seems to me that this article has been messed up by our Norwegian editor - I may be wrong. I think you should take a look though. He has some dodgy spelling at very least. Regards, Mannafredo (talk) 13:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it does read badly now. I will edit. Thanks (Nfras (talk) 05:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC))
Hanged versus Hung
editAt Clan Armstrong, you caught that. Thank you. You are exactly right.Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
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