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before the question. Again, welcome! DS (talk) 12:36, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Daraa Offensive.
editI agree with your idea to add this on the infobox. Check this , SOHR is reporting regular clashes there :https://www.facebook.com/syriaohr --Amedjay (talk) 16:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Saraqib
editThis town under control by Al Nusra and we cant use pro-oppositions sources for displayed success of all rebels. Need confirmation from neutral source that this town under jointly control Al Nusra and moderate rebels.here So that your action not justified and you need provide data from a neutral source which can confirm these your action or again mark the town of Saraqib as under full control of Al Nusra. Hanibal911 (talk) 16:23, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- No it's not man. Saraqib is the second biggest city in Idlib district, it's been a capital of sorts for the rebels there, especially Ahrar al Sham and Suqur al Sham. They both chased ISIS out of the city in January 2014. Unless you have a source that Nusra now controls the Ahrar/Suqur merger, you cannot just assume it is under Nusra monopoly. There's also Jabhat Thuwwar Saraqeb wa Reefiha, an FSA grpoup, there's no source that they participated in the SRF/Hazzm side, so we can't just assume they no longer exist. Finally, the Syrian Rebellion Observatory has suggested the new Farouq-linked Jaysh al Sunna has a component that is based in Saraqeb. While this alone is not enough to say Nusra doesn't enjoy monopoly, a combination of the three facts leads us to this most probable outcome. I don't think a non-rebel source can tell you who controls Saraqeb without using rebel sources, the reality is that they are the only ones on the ground. I checked your source when you made it Nusra; although Joshua Landis is usually accurate, I think he meant that Jund al Aqsa controls Saraqeb and Binnish in the context of the fight against the SRF and Hazzm. Jund al Aqsa most certainly did not kick out Ahrar and Suqur, and Thuwwar Saraqeb and Jaysh al Sunna have not complained of harassment.
- Same goes for Maarat Nuuman btw, Maara has a lot of rebel groups even more so than Saraqeb, especially Suqur al Sham, Faylaq al Sham, Tajamuu Maarat al Nuuman, other such groups that weren't with SRF or Hazzm. Even Binnish I reckon has strong presence of Ahrar al Sham, Faylaq al Sham and Jaysh al Islam, but Binnish is famous as the capital of Nusra since 2012, so it's only natural to conclude Nusra enjoys monopoly there. The big question mark is Sarmin, Nusra always had a presence there, and after Liwa Dawoud left, it seems Suqur al Sham recaptured it. There was also SRF presence but safe to assume it's now gone. I found reports that Ahrar al Sham besieged the city from the outside after Dawoud's betrayal, but no evidence that they are inside. So for now, we can confirm at least Suqur and former Jaysh al Sham leftovers (now they all joined Ahrar al Sham, of course). I think the whole map should have a do-over; I notice someone changed Maarat Misrin to half controlled by Nusra after my previous attempt at an edit a few days ago, but the same person didn't take my edits about Maarat al Nuuman and Saraqeb into the same consideration. The map also doesn't consider Nusra strongholds in Aleppo, which I'll get to later as well. NightShadeAEB (talk) 18:40, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
- Also, I notice Ram Hamdan has also been listed under Nusra. Considering that's where Ahrar's leadership was assassinated, I'd consider it unlikely that they enjoy monopoly. SRO, being pro rebel, still told me that Jaysh al Islam has a presence there. And with the activity around Fua and Kafraya, I'd bargain that Faylaq al Sham does too. A lot of things about the map are inaccurate; I'll try to look for acceptable sources to correct them. NightShadeAEB (talk) 18:43, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
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Dibshiyah
editDibshiyah. I would do it, but have to go offline. --Hogg 22 (talk) 15:11, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Palmyra surroundings
editBut after confirmations that the main forces ISIS retreated to the city Sukhna we can't leave as ISIS-held small point Biyarat Muhammad Butman as this just a military checkpoint in orchardse. So that OK I agree that we not need hurry edit other points east of Palmyra area but this point about which I said need marked as SAA-held. Sûriyeya (talk) 11:44, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- That's why my edit summary said "reasonable evidence" - if it's a small point and everything else was cleared then it's okay, but not if it's a major point that would require a separate mention from the sources NightShadeAEB (talk) 11:48, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Al Tughali
editRule #2- Copying from maps is strictly prohibited. Sources which you use only showed maps but not said that village of Al Tughali was retaken ISIS. Sorry guy if be the sources said that ISIS retake Tughali then we can use these data but sources not said this so it is a violated a rules of edit. So I ask you do revert. SvEcHpInXID (talk) 17:48, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- User:SvEcHpInXID Please don't revert it. Step Agency is a legitimate opposition news source, and Liwa al Hamza is a rebel group itself. These are not random maps made by random Twitter users, these are legitimate sources. And I did not copy the detail of the maps, just the status of a main town. I can go back and search in Arabic for a source that will confirm that Tughali is indeed ISIS held, but that could take me a while. As nobody else is willing to make that effort to reflect accuracy, why keep the map inaccurate? The maps I cited reflect the official positions of both Step Agency and Liwa al Hamza. It is data made into a graphic. NightShadeAEB (talk) 18:37, 4 April 2016 (UTC)