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Removal of debunking of Ferrell in Douglas MacArthur
editHi, I removed your recent addition to Douglas MacArthur, regarding the debunking of the criticism of Robert H. Ferrell. The reason I removed the added passage is because there was no mention of the criticism in the article in the first place, so there was no need to preemptively debunk arguments that weren't there. Additionally, the added text uses words like "... in fact, ...", but the so-called facts were just statements made by the reviewer of Ferrell's book in the April 2009 Army Magazine you provided as a source. Thus, the text you added violates WP:NPOV with regards to the source citation. A more objective statement would be along the lines of "Ferrell criticizes MacArthur in his book [so and so], but a reviewer of his book disagrees with his criticism". But that sort of addition to the article is non-encyclodpedic, so shouldn't be there in the first place. sbb (talk) 03:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Right on. Sorry for screwing up on this one. I will try my best to not make this mistake again
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- No worries. I believe your edit was in good-faith. It's just that 'Douglas MacArthur' is a featured article, so we need to be particularly careful and precise with our additions and citations. =) sbb (talk) 02:23, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
First of all, thank you for being a fair moderator/editor. I think it's interesting how the MacArthur article is able to use "Dugout Doug" frequently as one of his nicknames but me adding how on 29 June 1950 he actually flew to Seoul to directly do what Truman and the UN ordered him to do rather than order a low ranking subordinate to do so despite it being very dangerous and the South Korean Army front completely collapsing is "breastbeating trivia". I'm perfectly fine with the criticism and tough analysis of MacArthur's whole career. It should be balanced with the positives, though.
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Cool. Thanks for that. And I'll do that next time. However, "breastbeating machoism" was far from my intention and I'm sorry I didn't voice my opinion on the proper channel.
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editGen. Tinker at Battle of Midway
editHi. I reverted your edit, that added Gen. Tinker to the infobox list of commanders at the Battle of Midway. While it's true that Tinker was a general officer involved in the battle, Tinker wasn't a planner or commander of the naval operation of the Battle of Midway, which the article is about. He led a squadron of bombers land-based against the retreating Japanese navy, but in term of "infobox commanders of the battle", Tinker's role could have been accomplished by a colonel or even major as squadron commander. That he was a general officer doesn't elevate him to one of the commanders of the naval operation (i.e., infobox).
If you disagree with this reversion, please remember that Battle of Midway is a featured article. So additions such as you made should be brought up in the article's Talk page first. Happy editing. =) — sbb (talk) 03:41, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Major General Tinker wasn't "just a general officer" though. He was a Major General (two stars) and equal with Rear Admiral Spruance and Rear Admiral Jack Fletcher (both two stars), not a Brigadier General, and he was a part of the U.S. Army Air Forces commanders. He was the Commander of the Seventh Air Force which was a major part of the Battle of Midway. If he were a brigadier general then you would be correct and I would not have placed him in the infobox. A unique part of the Battle of Midway was the land-based Army fighters and bombers were a crucial part of the battle, not just Navy carrier aircraft. If Navy rear admirals (two stars) get partial credit for General Douglas MacArthur's Southwest Pacific theater operations and battles then an Army major general should get credit for being the commander of land-based aircraft during the Battle of Midway especially since Nimitz had the Army airplanes in mind as a major component of the battle. And couldn't a bunch of lower-ranking Captains and Commanders do the same exact thing as Spruance and Fletcher with their aircraft carriers, if that is your argument? Those two rear admirals did not have to be actually present at the battle and could have stayed behind in Pearl Harbor with Admiral Nimitz with that same logic.
Nimuda (talk) 03:56, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
New Orleans - British withdrawal
editHello, I put the tag there because it is dubious to base an event in January upon a document signed on another continent the prior month. Rather than deleting the comment, it would make sense to find a better source, and to replace the tag and the Treaty of Ghent. Please do feel free to add a better source, ideally from a book published by a historian, rather than someone's self-published website.Keith H99 (talk) 16:38, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- The Treaty of Ghent was signed but not ratified until February 1815. The Senate has to ratify treaties in the U.S.A. Signatures by low-ranking diplomats mean absolutely nothing to the American government. And despite the claims from the British after the war (that was really a "face saving" narrative) by claiming that New Orleans did not count as a real battle of the war General Pakenham (who was killed in action so his own story and potential autobiography is conveniently lost to history) was in fact told by the British Government and his military superiors to ignore any news of a peace treaty being successfully negotiated and to continue onwards until he captures New Orleans. He had a commission from the Colonial Office in London calling him Governor of Louisiana if he had won the Battle of New Orleans. You can see Andrew Jackson's own statement in the Battle of New Orleans article. He made it known on record that if the British had taken New Orleans before the ratification of the treaty in February they would have repealed that treaty and kept Louisiana for themselves.
Nimuda (talk) 04:13, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Your opinion is noted, that Pakenham was under secret orders to take New Orleans and to declare himself the Governor of Louisiana. The Treaty of Ghent does not prove this, which is why I have marked it as dubious. It would be better if a historian, like Remini for example, who has mentioned this in a history book, could be added as a source. In this manner, the idea of wikipedia as a sourced encyclopaedia is upheld, as it ties back to a plausible source. Otherwise, the reliability comes into question, and this is best avoided.Keith H99 (talk) 20:41, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- If you are saying that the secret orders for Pakenham to take New Orleans and to declare himself the Governor of Louisiana are in a book written by Andrew Jackson, then it would be better to add that book as the source to the article. If you check a source, and it doesn't tie back, then it is logical to tag it as dubious. It is not to say that a statement is not correct, but that the source does not reflect the statement, which I believe is known in some circles as "coat racking".Keith H99 (talk) 20:49, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
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Please be careful with your sources
editHi Nimuda! I'm writing about this edit you made in 2021. I've just removed that paragraph as I can't find any information about it on the internet other than the unreliable source you cited. Please be more careful in the future. Thank you! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:03, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for removing it due to no other sources confirming it. I concur with you. I like to believe that that alleged embarrassing incident in Tokyo Bay in 1943 actually happened but the U.S. Navy doesn't want to talk about it (for obvious reasons) and it "officially" never happened. Maybe it will be officially disclosed on the 100th year anniversary in 20 years.
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