Ninhursag3
TagaworShah
editHello, about User TagarworShah, he is not a sinti, he has nothing to do with the sintis of germany, as you can see on his user page, he is of Armenian and Kalderash-Roma Background, here have a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TagaworShah Horahane (talk) 11:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, I already agreed with you on the talk page of "Romani people". Ninhursag3 (talk) 11:49, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- That doesn't mean most Roma call themselves "Romani' because TagarworShah or Ian Hancock call themselves "Romani" and not "Roma". Romani is a feminine form adjective, Roma is a plural, gender neutral noun. TagarworShah says that the Romani language is unique and a word like "Romani" can be both feminine and masculine, plural and singular adjective. Even so, the noun "Roma" still exists and is commonly used. Ninhursag3 (talk) 11:55, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- I know, but you will be blocked if you have another mind, and then you will call to be a sockpuppet of another user who are still blocked. This is why i dislike the english wikipedia.
- In europe, the name romani especially in Germany or the Balkans, for the people is not known at all, We call Roma and the language is romani chib or Romanes. No Roma I know said I am a romani ...this made no sense in romani language. Me sem Rom (I am a Rom). A rom male and romliya is a female and the people are the roma, also Amaro Romalen (We roma). I think this tagarowhsha doesnt speak any word of Romanes. Horahane (talk) 12:07, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- What does having "another mind" mean? Thank you so much for the information ^^ Can you please tell others the same thing you just told me on the Romani people talk page? Again, thank you so much for such valuable information. I don't know if you read all my comments on the Romani people talk page but I'm in no way xenophobic or bigoted about the Roma people, while I know there are such bigoted and hateful anti-Roma people out there, I'm not like that at all. I respect all cultures and ethnicities and see every person as an indiviual and not as a whole ethnicity.
- I just wanted to point out while in the last few years it's all of a sudden "Romani people" when previously it was "Roma". Ninhursag3 (talk) 12:20, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Can you please copy-paste your comment from my talk page "In europe, the name romani especially in Germany or the Balkans, for the people is not known at all, We call Roma and the language is romani chib or Romanes. No Roma I know said I am a romani ...this made no sense in romani language. Me sem Rom (I am a Rom). A rom male and romliya is a female and the people are the roma, also Amaro Romalen (We roma). I think this tagarowhsha doesnt speak any word of Romanes." here: Talk:Romani people#Requested move 21 June 2023 and write in bold I support the title change of the wikipedia article from Romani people to be changed to Roma (people)?
- That would be much appreciated, thank you so much ^^ Ninhursag3 (talk) 12:28, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Ninhursag3, I'am the blocked user @Nalanidil, all of my other Nicknames I used also blocked, as much I create a new one they find that out and blocked me again. The reason, I was blocked, because I also want to change the name Romani to Roma people, and many Users was against me , especially TagarworShah. But yet listen, If any have the same mindset like a User who are blocked, about the same topic or who changend on the same page, you will be suspeckted to be a sockpuppet of them and they made a sockpuppet investigation against you. The result is you got blocked as a suspeckted sockpoppet, anyway you havent to do anything with this blocked user. Because your fault is only to have the same mind and same interest in the same topic. Look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations
- So if any User thought you are the same user who was blocked, because you wrote or changend or have the same mindset on the page and topic, like a blocked user this can be happend against you. This case was with the User @ekethos, who are thought wrongly its a suckpoppet of me, also Tagarworshah thought you are me and he wrote this against you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Nalanidil
- That doesn't mean most Roma call themselves "Romani' because TagarworShah or Ian Hancock call themselves "Romani" and not "Roma". Romani is a feminine form adjective, Roma is a plural, gender neutral noun. TagarworShah says that the Romani language is unique and a word like "Romani" can be both feminine and masculine, plural and singular adjective. Even so, the noun "Roma" still exists and is commonly used. Ninhursag3 (talk) 11:55, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
Horahane (talk) 13:59, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for letting me know, I notified @LilianaUwU about @TagaworShah's abusive tactics. Ninhursag3 (talk) 15:26, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
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editHi! I see you stated that I accused you, could you show me where? I am not aware... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ninhursag3&diff=prev&oldid=1161420301 Everything recorded in the wiki so please show me! OrionNimrod (talk) 16:44, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, it was regarding this map: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balkans850.png
- Did you delete your talk page? I can't respond to you on your talk page. Ninhursag3 (talk) 16:47, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, you have a discussion page, not a talk page, sorry, it's been a while >.<
- Everything is recorded on wikipedia but I already had a few users delete their comments when talking to me a couple of times...
- Anyway, I remember it was in connection with this map: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balkans850.png and I asked @Borsoka to help me... Ninhursag3 (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yes here Talk:First Bulgarian Empire#Problem with the map of the First Bulgarian Empire in 850 but I did not say that you are the sockpuppet of them... OrionNimrod (talk) 10:47, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- You said:
- "This blocked user changed the original map first to write there Wallachia:
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Spiridon_Ion_Cepleanu
- (and his sockpuppet Julieta)
- OrionNimrod
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- My response: I don't care about other users, they can change this names to Julieta or whatever. I'm a woman, not a "fake internet woman" or a "sock-puppet woman".
- Ninhursag3 (talk) 16:40, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- That made me think you accused me of being @
- Spiridon_Ion_Cepleanu
- because you talked about him having a female account with the name "Julieta" and me being a woman made you suspicious that I'm "Julieta #2".
- I hope now we're cool. Also, can I please ask you for a neutral opinion on a subject?
- Ninhursag3 (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was talking about Spiridon and his sockpupet Julieta not about you. I just pointed out, that the map was changed by him by a blocked user. OrionNimrod (talk) 21:48, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- No, it's fine, I understand now. I know you wrote a long comment on the John Hunyadi talk page but right now I don't have the energy to respond. Another topic on wikipedia sucks up all my energy *sigh* Ninhursag3 (talk) 21:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was talking about Spiridon and his sockpupet Julieta not about you. I just pointed out, that the map was changed by him by a blocked user. OrionNimrod (talk) 21:48, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yes here Talk:First Bulgarian Empire#Problem with the map of the First Bulgarian Empire in 850 but I did not say that you are the sockpuppet of them... OrionNimrod (talk) 10:47, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
In Germany we use the word Roma
editHello@Ninhursag3, as you can see http://www.sinti-roma-sh.de/wer-sind-sinti-und-roma/, or here https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305298773_Roma_Culture_Problems_and_Challenges.
In Germany and other countrys in europe, The Word Roma is used, this romani name is american english started by this Ian hanckok and his followers, but @Ninhursag3, I will give you a good friendy advice.
You can't beat this lobby here. Your answers will be interpreted as bad behavior and your work on pages as disruptive changes, they don't accept sources they don't like. They will block you, sooner or later, or as a suckpuppet, etc., the same thing happened to me, that's exactly how it behaved. You see how they treat me yet and there's a regular witch-hunt going on. My best advice to you, just leave it, it's useless. You're just getting worked up for nothing, it is best to leave the english wikipedia. Tagaworshah and Netherzone and many others, etc they all will attack you, believe me, they will also delete what I write to you here. Nafteta (talk) 11:12, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, they now accuse me of making sockpuppet accounts even if I didn't make any, but think I'm now different from you: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nalanidil#c-Netherzone-20230623174000-Comments by other users 3
- Anyway, you kinda endangered my wikipedia account >.< Please stop making personal attacks towards wikipedia users and stop creating new sockpuppet accounts and just stick to one account. Ninhursag3 (talk) 19:25, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Ninhursag3, They are globally locked and blocked for disruptive editing. Do not advise them to "just stick to one account" as you are just encouraging a long-term disruptive editor to continue being disruptive. Netherzone (talk) 20:03, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, got it. I want to be a wikipedia editor that follows that rules and uses tools in my arsenal that are accepted by wikipedia, so no personal attacks or sockpuppet accounts. I think I was blinded by the fact that she agrees with me on a topic and her vote of support would have made a difference... Ninhursag3 (talk) 20:06, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- the rules* Ninhursag3 (talk) 20:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, got it. I want to be a wikipedia editor that follows that rules and uses tools in my arsenal that are accepted by wikipedia, so no personal attacks or sockpuppet accounts. I think I was blinded by the fact that she agrees with me on a topic and her vote of support would have made a difference... Ninhursag3 (talk) 20:06, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Ninhursag3, They are globally locked and blocked for disruptive editing. Do not advise them to "just stick to one account" as you are just encouraging a long-term disruptive editor to continue being disruptive. Netherzone (talk) 20:03, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
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Celts in Western Romania
editHi Ninhursag3. I saw that you moved Celts in Transylvania back to Celts in Western Romania after another user had reverted your prior move from last year. When moving pages and someone reverts your move, please don't move the page back to the title that you prefer. This is to prevent a move war from happening, please see WP:RMUM. If you'd like to have the title changed back to Celts in Western Romania, you could follow the instructions here and potentially start a requested move discussion. Fathoms Below (talk) 19:54, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Transylvania is not a country in itself. The cited references treat Transylvania like it's a sovereign country, not part of Romania. Transylvania is part of Romania and it has been for more than a century. Western Romania is more accurate geography-wise. For Celtic remains in the rest of Western Romania, like Banat or Oltenia, nobody uses "Celts in Banat" or "Celts in Oltenia", they only use it for Transylvania. Even though there are Celtic remains in the rest of Western Romania like Banat or Northern Oltenia.
- I think one should take geography facts into consideration. Ninhursag3 (talk) 15:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also created a topic on the talk page: Talk:Celts in Transylvania#Request to move page from Celts in Transylvania to Celts in Western Romania
- But no one replied. Ninhursag3 (talk) 15:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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