Nittmo

Skyrunner World Series

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Charley Pell & Galen Hall

Greetings, Nittmo, and welcome to Wikipedia. I was following the conversation, such as it was, between you and Enigmaman regarding the description of Charley Pell's departure in the Galen Hall article. FYI, I am responsible for most of the present content of both the Galen Hall and Charley Pell Wikipedia articles, and the footnoted sources were all added by me. I'm a 3-time Gator alumnus, and I was an undergraduate from 1983 to 1987, so you're talking to a sympathetic Wikipedia editor. Notwithstanding your 1984 Gator insider status, the written sources (i.e., the Gainesville Sun, Norm Carlson's 2007 book, and others) are pretty clear that Charley Pell offered his resignation before the season began on the condition that he would be allowed to finish the 1984 season as coach, and Marshall Criser grudgingly accepted this arrangement. After the NCAA released its reports alleging 107 major infractions, however, that position was no longer politically tenable, either for Criser or the Board of Regents. Criser called Pell into his office the Sunday night after the Tulane game and "relieved him of his duties." You may want to read Jack Hairston's account from the front page of the Monday, September 17, 1984 edition of the Gainesville Sun (See link: [1]). There are other footnotes in the Criser, Hall and Pell articles that reference contemporaneous newspaper articles retrieved from the Google news archives.

Anyway, I really don't want to hack you off and I do understand your loyalty to Coach Pell as one of his players. Without knowing who you are, your perspective could be very helpful on the articles regarding your Gators teammates, coaches and the time you were in the program. Please keep in mind, however, that Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia and have an encyclopedic tone (notwithstanding that a lot of the "fan boy" crap that gets inserted into player, coach and team articles----it should be deleted or rewritten). Two of Wikipedia's major principles are WP:Notability and WP:Verifiability, which basically boil down to "is this subject notable enough to merit a separate Wikipedia article" and "is this factual statement supported by verifiable, professionally written sources." Major newspapers and books are virtually always treated as good sources on Wikipedia, unless they have been subsequently controverted by other mainstream, verifiable sources. If you look at the bibliography for the Hall and Pell articles, there are any number of professionally written books that are also good sources about the Pell-Hall era. In particular, the Hairston and Goleck books include numerous interviews with coaches and players from your era (you might find you are quoted, too). Used copies are available for next to nothing on Amazon.com and other internet sites. Pretty much every statement/sentence in controversial biographies like Coach Pell's should be footnoted; this protects the subject person from unsourced opinion statements, which can and should be immediately deleted by other Wikipedia editors.

If you would like to continue this discussion privately (anything posted on your Wikipedia talk page can be read by others), please feel free to email me through the "E-mail this user" link provided under "Toolbox" on the left side of my user or user talk page. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:46, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

May 2011

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Talkback

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