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Number of speakers?
editNovial sounds interesting. Roughly how many speakers would you say there are? Waitak 03:12, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
We don't have figures but going on internet data probably one or two dozen have a fair knowledge. It's very easy for speakers of West European languages - easier than Esperanto certainly, on grammatical and lexical grounds. Possibly easier than Ido, at least in some respects, and the lexicon is more "natural".
I'm in the middle of improving the Novial article and making a new article, Esperanto and Novial compared. Later I hope to write similar pages comparing it with Ido and IALA Interlingua.
There is also a Wikibook for learners of Novial: Novial Wikibook.
I am trying to propogate interest in Novial. It is not so well known but after studying IALA Interlingua and Esperanto and Novial in that order I realised that Novial provides an excellent balance between "naturalism" and easiness (from a West European perspective of course).
If you like Novial please vote to support a Wikipedia in Novial here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Non-natural#Novial_.2816_support.2C_3_oppose.2C_2_neutral.29
A test Wikipedia in Novial is already up and running and has over 100 articles (Biology is the best category at the moment). http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-wp/nov/
Thanks for your interest. Nov ialiste 08:49, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Novial
editHi, after your replys to my comment on Esperanto talk page, I'm intrested in looking more into the Novial language, know any good books or where I could get them? Loserdog3000 19:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
check the external links at the Novial wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novial#External_links
The test Novial wikipedia has been accepted: we're now just waiting for a developer to create the real one. The two definitive books on Novial are "An International Language" and "Novial Lexike" (dictionary) both by Professor Jespersen and both on the internet in that list of links. Thanks for your interest. Nov ialiste 19:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the reply. I've started reading the book and it's pretty interesting. :) Loserdog3000 11:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
pronunciation of "Novial"
editHello, I've a quick question about how to pronounce this word. Do you have IPA for this? I just saw it says new+IAL. --Manop - TH 17:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Novial translation (RO)
editDone. --Gutza T T+ 20:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- Great, thanks very much ! Nov ialiste 22:31, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Learning Novial
editIs it cool with you if I refer to you as my teacher for Novial, and show you my lessons and have you critique them?Cameron Nedland 02:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, sure. I have made a "Tutorial Group" page at the Novial Wikibook for discussions here. Or use Wikipedia email for private communication. Nov ialiste 09:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot.Cameron Nedland 14:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback!Cameron Nedland 16:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind words, but the turth is I checked my original answers, and most of them were right, but I seem to get 'se' and 'lesen' etc. mixed up. I'm not quite sure what I am doing wrong. Thanks again.Cameron Nedland 16:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, the distinction between sen and len/lon/lan/lun does not exist in English. If English "his/her/its" can be changed to "his/her/its own" then use "sen". The important thing is that se(n) refers to the subject of the verb so if we say "his car goes" for example it must be "lon veture vada": "sen" is not possible here as it is part of the subject and cannot therefore be referring back to the subject. Anyway, I have to concentrate to remember to use "sen" correctly. Also remember that se(n) is the same for the singular and plural, as in referring back to the subject the number is known from the subject itself. Keep studying. You can learn Novial quicker than other IALs, which is the main point of an IAL. I hope you will become a contributor to the Novial Wikipedia. We need more people. It's been surprisingly active over the last few days. Nov ialiste 18:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- Okay thanks, that clears it up, I'll keep working on it.Cameron Nedland 19:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Omniglot
editI'm really sorry I haven't been doing the lessons recently, I promise I'll get back on it. But I think you ought to check out omniglot.com, they recently added Novial as one of their languages.Cameron Nedland 13:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip. It seems they mostly used Wiki(pedia, books) info. Learn at leisure. :) Nov ialiste 15:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Finnish
editOkay, that would be cool.Cameron Nedland 19:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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Novial Reform
editBon Jorne, amike. What are your opinions on the various reform groups of the Novial language? Most obviously, Novial98?
Personally I find their idea of adding -r to the stems of verbs to be a great idea. But that may be due to my previous study of Swedish. Ciraric 20:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, I added tables to the Novial page
- Thanks for the tables. Personally I find their idea of adding -r to the stems of verbs to be a horrendous idea. But that may be due to my previous study of Swedish. :) Nov ialiste 18:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Babel template
editDear Nov ialiste,
I'm OrbiliusMagister from it.wikisource. I was looking for the Template:User nov-2 and I didn't find it, while template:User nov-1 and Template:User nov-3 are already in place. Would you please create that missing template? Forgive my brutal wording, I'm not very clever with English language. Thank you in advance - εΔω 16:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message. Yes, I will make that template soon (tomorrow). There are many more Babel templates I must make.Nov ialiste (talk) 17:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Esperanto passive conditional
editHi -- I changed what appeared to be a typo in the conditional form in the Esperanto passive table you added to Esperanto and Novial compared. Since I don't know much about Esperanto, I thought I should check with you in case that's what it was meant to say after all. Joriki (talk) 17:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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