Nutterbutterz95
Joined 25 May 2009
Latest comment: 15 years ago by TKD in topic May 2009
May 2009
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Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Covenant (Halo), but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. —TKD [talk][c] 03:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- We need a source to show that the connection to Tagalog is intentional, rather than a random combination of letters and syllables that Bungie selected. Otherwise, we would be implying that Bungie based the name on that language. If no one's verified that, then the connection would be an inappropriate synthesis of material because no one has confirmed the connection. Wikipedia can't be the first place to publish that sort of analysis, which we call "original research". Hopefully, that makes sense; if not, let me know. —TKD [talk][c] 05:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- The point is that it's not obvious that the name is meant to be a connection to a word in Tagalog. By mentioning Tagalog at all, we are subtly implying and asserting that the name is a reference to the Tagalog word, when it may be a coincidence—and such things often are, in terms of allusions. It may be true; it may not be. But we need a reliable source to include a mention of Tagalog. As far as your analogy to English goes, fictional etymology is often not so simple. See, for example Donkey Kong (video game)#Development, where the naming of Donkey Kong is discussed at length. It's not as simple as a combination of references to "Donkey" and "Kong" in English.
By the way, Wikipedia needs reliably published sources (see Wikipedia:Verifiability); personal communication doesn't fall under that category. —TKD [talk][c] 22:50, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- The point is that it's not obvious that the name is meant to be a connection to a word in Tagalog. By mentioning Tagalog at all, we are subtly implying and asserting that the name is a reference to the Tagalog word, when it may be a coincidence—and such things often are, in terms of allusions. It may be true; it may not be. But we need a reliable source to include a mention of Tagalog. As far as your analogy to English goes, fictional etymology is often not so simple. See, for example Donkey Kong (video game)#Development, where the naming of Donkey Kong is discussed at length. It's not as simple as a combination of references to "Donkey" and "Kong" in English.