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I noticed that you removed the entire links section because they were vandalized. I personally don't think that that is a good idea because vandalism will happen often and the appropriate thing to do would be just to undo it. But thanks for keeping an eye on it. The fastest way to see this vandalisms is to click on the "watch" on every page that you edit. then when you click "my watchlist" you'd see the last edit of every page, and would automatically know what has happened and who edited. And same for those links to every the enneagram numbers that you removed. If you think that they are POV then stick a NPOV tag on them untill they are fixed, rather than deleting the links. PS see Enneagram of Personality talk. Aeuio 14:04, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Enneatypes

You will have a very hard job persuading anybody that you can justify separate articles One (Enneagram) and Enneatype One. Ditto for type two. "In my opinion these pages need to be heavily edited". So get on and do it. Do not create forks. -- RHaworth 14:35, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Enneagram

Greetings. I notice that you've contributed heavily to the Enneagram articles. Thanks so much for your work on this! My wife is an Enneagram student, and has read half-a-dozen books on the subject. I'm curious: from what source do you get most of your info? Are you more of a Palmer student, or did you study with a different school? Anyway, great job with the articles. All the best, – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 20:53, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi i'd like to email you privately to discuss future edits before uploading. My user page says my email address is available. Martindo (talk) 03:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Nearly four months have passed since our exchange about Arica School. I'm relatively new to WP editing so I don't understand how a POV dispute can get resolved. Official Arica sources apparently are not interested in editing the page, so I'm inclined to just chop the last two paragraphs of the final section (Protoanalysis). Would that suffice to make the article POV and resolve the dispute? Martindo (talk) 01:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not too interested in any major editing of the article by myself at present. If there are some things that you would like to do to it, however, I would be interested to hear from you if you would like me to provide an email address. Ontologicos (talk) 11:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Long time no contact. Apparently Skyerise proposed merging Arica School into Oscar Ichazo a year ago, then did it based on her assertion that the latter has greater "name recognition". The latter page is not even a bio (nothing more than his birth and death dates), but simply a container for the redirected Arica content. (In other words, the merge should have gone the other way.)

I only became aware of the merge today when her unilateral decision to include an accent in the name Oscar popped up on my Watchlist. Strong evidence was presented in opposition to the accent mark in Talk:Oscar_Ichazo this past April, so it looks like that issue was not resolved other than to default to a generic rule about South American Spanish naming conventions.

BTW, Talk:Arica_School is still distinct from Talk:Oscar_Ichazo. I admit I've never done a merge so I wonder if that kind of separation is the norm. It certainly makes it harder to address multiple topics in one Talk discussion. Martindo (talk) 07:59, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Myers-Briggs

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Annoying

This was annoying [[1]]. Have some good faith please. Zulu Papa 5 * (talk) 15:42, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

When you say "Needs third-party references and evidence of notability - otherwise it's original research." what do you mean "original research" they are published studies. Zulu Papa 5 * (talk) 15:46, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Whether it's "annoying" to you or not is irrelevant. Being published is also not necessarily relevant. When it comes to research then references to the research must be verifiable in reliable third-party sources. Instead of getting huffy about being reverted try following the policies on these matters instead. This will save both of us from silly conflict. Ontologicos (talk) 15:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Huffy ... like in knee jerk reverting? Did you read the note? Zulu Papa 5 * (talk) 16:04, 23 December 2010 (UTC)\

Look this [2] stuff is provoking " silly conflict. The Enneagram Institute is about as relevant to Riso and Hudson as Arica is to blah blah. You have run me out the article for now. Are you happy? Zulu Papa 5 * (talk) 16:13, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

PA Notice

See [3]. Please avoid WP:PA on my contributions in your notes. Thanks. Zulu Papa 5 * (talk) 16:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

How about trying to address the problems with your editing instead of repeatedly seeking to intimidate me on my talk page? Thank you. Ontologicos (talk) 17:08, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you for clarifying that on the talk page of the article on the Enneagram of Personality that the revised edition of "Understanding the Enneagram" was by both Riso and Hudson. Vorbee (talk) 20:18, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Enneagram

My edit to the enneagram type of personality was an improvement of the content and made the page more accurate. I am a subject matter expert and the current version is inaccurate. Zacaum (talk) 18:18, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Zacaum. With respect, the current version is not inaccurate at all. It is true to the actual known facts. I have been studying, teaching and writing on the Enneagram of Personality for over 30 years and am considered by many to be one of the leading experts on its known history. Your version was based on unverifiable speculation that some similar ideas taught in the Christian tradition were somehow explicitly the same thing as the Enneagram of Personality as it was first made definitely known by Oscar Ichazo. These similar "Christian" ideas were actually already found in much earlier Classical philosophy, especially the writings of Plato. Some people want to claim that the EOP is of an even earlier Egyptian origin but this claim is also based on speculation instead of known facts. Whatever similar ideas existed in various places and times before Ichazo we cannot claim with any certainty that the Enneagram of Personality - as such - was ever taught before his teachings about it. Ontologicos (talk) 00:39, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

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Apology

Greetings. I owe you an apology for the recent criticism I leveled at you, but I will explain my actions. My initial edit to the Enneagram article was done in the belief that there were no reliable sources, according to Wikipedia guidelines. of recent Enneagram studies. This is a result of my personal history and genuinely not feeling how much time had passed in relation to the life of my mind. I was totally incorrect to accuse you of being a self-appointed authority. You were NOT acting as a self-appointed authorty. If you'd like me to copy this to the article's Talk page, I will. Tapered (talk) 23:21, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

@ Tapered ~ Thank you. Your apology is accepted and appreciated. Ontologicos (talk) 07:27, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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I've undone the edit that made this a "hard miscapitalization". So, if you want, feel free to put the link back in, and I won't bother you about it any more. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:14, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Enneagram of Personality article

Howdy. hanks for your edits on this page. Good to see that someone has such an expert understanding of the Enneagram, unlike so many other editors (both pro and anti). Keep up the good work. Afterwriting (talk) 04:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

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