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Hello, are you mr. sumple? Blueshirts 21:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

zhuda @ the s.h.e article

Yeah, I don't think there's an English term for it. Because a "hit song" is really only determined by how it performs on the charts, and not all hit songs are track 1 (e.g. S.H.E's second album). A similar term would be a CD's single, but singles are usually individually sold, either in hard copy or digital. We can't really say "digital single" either because the technology wouldn't have been popular enough back when S.H.E started out in 2001. So yeah. - Pandacomics 15:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

But with "main song", that's usually a term used to contrast the word "filler song" in an album. An album has many main songs, but it would be really lame to say "their track ones." - Pandacomics 04:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Tibet

And who are you? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 06:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I have added the neutrality tag. I guess you see the question arising on the actual geographical boundary and framework of historical Tibet -it is subject to debate - I see where you are coming from. Its the old China-Tibet argument again - its difficult - particularly writing an article carefully. I would hope you see I have put tons of work into articles on Tibet. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 06:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

If you are from China then I can see your view totally. But try not to let politics affect the article. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 06:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I've removed it as on studying it I too question the accuracy of it. -it isn't all that useful anywat - it was presentation I was thinking about ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 06:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes I agree that map was a bit too definitive when even historical boundaries were not all that clear a but you shouldn't object to the flag or seal. It is the flag used in historical Tibet by the Tibetans - I'd hoped it would improve the understanding of the article not as a ruse to promote Tibetan nationalism. The reason I rmeove dit was beacuse of the map and I had doubts over the accuracy of the info and its legitimacy. For instance in an article on "historical" Tibet why did it have info on 2005 population and economy when the article is about pre 1950? This was a contradiction but thanks for bringing it to my attention. Peace. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" Contribs} 06:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese)

Greetings, I have been having the beginnings of a revert battle with User:Jerrypp772000, at the disputed Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese), I was wondering if you'd be kind enough to look in and give an opinion? Thanks. LionheartX

Shanghainese

Do you speak Shanghainese and, if so, are you available to come up with the pronunciations of words from time to time? Badagnani 16:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for this valuable info. I think the ad hoc would be best (can the Hanyu pinyin tone marks be used to indicate tones)? Badagnani 06:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

Dear PalaceGuard008/Archive 1, I am here to inform you that I have placed Forbidden City on Hold status for a period of three days. This means that you have three days to address the issues detailed on the articles talk page. If I feel that, after this designated time, the issues raised have not been dealt with, then the article will fail. If you can address the problems in the period of time, the article will pass. If you have any questions about the review, please leave them on my talk page. Good luck on improving the article. Regards,Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

Dear PalaceGuard008/Archive 1, I am delighted to inform you that I have seen fit to pass Forbidden City for GA status, as I believe that it qualifies the criteria that is commonly accepted by the community. Further details of the articles passing, and possible further improvements to the article can be found on the articles talk page. If you have any questions about the review, please leave them on my talk page. Regards,-- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 20:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

GA

Hey PalaceGuard, I just wanted to congratulate you on your recent GA status article. You are doing a great job. Keep up the hard work. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

重装

I think you might be right about "reinstall." It was hard to figure it out from the original characters via Wiktionary definitions. Badagnani 08:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Food item

Hi, I need the Chinese name for the food item that is similar to mochi--white balls that are smooth and a little smaller than golf balls, made from glutinous rice flour and filled with sweet bean paste (mung bean or azuki bean). These are available frozen in Chinese supermarkets, in clear plastic trays almost the way eggs are sold. They're boiled in water and are chewy in texture. In Vietnam this is chè xôi nước (see the photos) and in Japan there is mochi like this, but I want to figure out tha original Chinese name for this food. Badagnani 08:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, looks like they're filled Tangyuan (yuanxiao). Badagnani 08:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Wow, great info. Can you add all that to the article? Badagnani 16:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

thanks!

Thanks for your response on WT:CHINA! I appreciate your help... if you're interested, we could use all the helping hands we can get at Wikipedia:WikiProject Three Kingdoms. Oh.. read your user page... like you, I am totally addicted to Hayao Miyazaki. Later! Ling.Nut 13:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks!!! umm one way you could show moral support is by adding your name to the list of project members. Just a thought...
• By the way.. some day.. months from now... November-ish or even December-ish.. I wanna put some major effort into Grave of the Fireflies...
• Later! Ling.Nut 14:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Name

Did you get your user name from one of the characters in Stephen Chow's movie Forbidden City Cop? Just wondering. (Ghostexorcist 10:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC))

Sydney Law School

See the thread with same title on my talk page. enochlau (talk) 13:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Soybeans in the pod

In the U.S. we know this as edamame. I didn't know that Koreans or Chinese ate soybeans this way, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised as there are so many culinary overlaps between those three cultures. This must be one of the very few exceptions to the use of soybeans in highly fermented form. Badagnani 01:18, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

As I'd suspected, the Soybean article, under "Uses," only mentions the Japanese use of edamame, and not the Chinese and Korean. If you know about those, you should add info about it there. Edamame might merit its own article, which would talk about all three varieties. It is possible that the Chinese and Korean versions originally come from the Japanese. Badagnani 01:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Interesting! What is 酒糟, exactly? Badagnani 02:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it's "sediment" or "dregs." Badagnani 02:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Edamame

Yummy. I'm quite surprised that there isn't a proper article on this food item already! enochlau (talk) 23:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Mao

Hey, just to let you know I did revert you on the Mao Zedong page - as something like what you added is relatively controversial - and I think it's controversial enough that you should probably have a source to go with it. Assuming you have the source I'm perfectly fine with that being in the article, but I think until then - "propaganda" is a pretty strong word.--danielfolsom 01:53, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh nononono - I'm aware that he acted in that position - the reason I believe a source would be best is the high traffic the article gets and the potential for the factoid to be lost.--danielfolsom 02:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Nicely done.--danielfolsom 02:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Constitution of Australia

Oh Hello there PalaceGuard Firstly, I apologize for not having responded. It is my first edit of the Wikipedia and i was not familiar with this talk facility. I didn't realize what was happening. I made the change and when it went back I thought it was an automatic change due to my not having logged on properly or something. At any rate, I am interested in understanding why my changes were reverted. Why does WIkipedia state there is no Preamble to the constitution? There clearly and legally is. For example: [1] THE LEGAL INFORMATION ACCESS CENTRE states there is a preamble. The Australian Government's Senate web site at [2] also includes the preamble. In fact, any record of the Australian Constitution also includes Clauses 1 to 8 which constitutes the Preamble. So why does the Wikipedia page state incorrectly thast there is no preamble? I am truly interested in an intelligent discussion about this point. My email is [aussie.constitution@gmail.com] so should I expect to hear from you or shall I return here to check? Kind regards Truth First

There is a (big) difference between a preamble of the Act and a preamble of the Constitution. The links you gave us refer to the preamble of the Act. The Constitution itself does not contain a preamble. (Try and keep discussion in one place please.) enochlau (talk) 11:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I have emailed Truth First about the distintcion between the Preamble and the Covering clauses on the one hand, and the distinction between the Preamble to the Act versus the Preamble to the Constitution on the other hand. Let's continue our discussion at Talk:Constitution of Australia. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 11:25, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Forbidden City

Never got around to congratulating you for this. Good work. --Ideogram 17:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Chinglish picture

Actually, I rather thought that the whole list of regulations was a veritable goldmine of Chinglish. Perhaps instead, other parts of the article could refer to it. Kelisi 00:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, while I realize that WP is not censored, I don't think it would enhance the article's encyclopaedic nature to have an image with the word "shit" staring the reader in the face. There is also the context (a list of regulations in a public place) that would be lost if I cropped the picture. As it is, it clearly demonstrates that local governments in China are not immune to Chinglish. Kelisi 00:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Forbidden City map

Very impressive! For fonts, I'd recommend something common in case people don't have the font when they download the SVG file. I think a sans serif font (like Arial or Verdana) or something would look good, because Wikipedia's default font is a sans serif font - so it doesn't stand out like a sore thumb. Font size is something to consider - depends on whether you want it as a thumbnail in the Forbidden City article, or rather large. The colour... I'm not sure, because you've got light and dark areas. Maybe you'll need to draw semi-transparent boxes behind the labels to make it readable. And when you're done, also consider uploading the SVG file too - you can embed those in pages like any other image type. enochlau (talk) 07:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

CE or AD

The discussion on whether all China related articles should switch over to BCE/CE formatting is winding down. You haven't commented recently, so I wanted to invite you back to see what you think. A large majority of people who opposed it now what to make the switch. John Smith's seems to be the only person fighting tooth and nail to keep the BC/AD system. He has left some negative comments on the manual of style page. --Ghostexorcist 10:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I merely highlighted PHG's attempt at deception. He frequently misquotes or misinterprets wikipedia rules and guidelines to suit himself. Ghost, please try to gain consensus through discussion rather than forcing through a decision through super-majority, which is not consensus. John Smith's 11:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Forbidden City & Palace Museum

Hi, PalaceGuard008! I know that you have contributed a lot to the Forbidden City article and is trying to improve the quality of it, but I strongly think that the Palace Museum article and the Forbidden City article should be re-merged. Much of the contents in the Palace Museum article is nothing new or more elaborate than the informations that are already presented in the Forbidden City article (the infos are basically the same), and by merging them back together again, I feel a more comprenhensive article could be shown. Also, since the palace (Forbidden City) itself is such an essential part of the museum, I think it is only fitting that they combine into one article. Plus, many of the international articles linked to the Forbidden City talk about both the Forbidden City and Palace Musem within the same article, as I think perhaps it is easier to organize them.--Balthazarduju 02:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Korean and Japan? Japan and Korea?

It seems as if you like alphabetical order on your own user page, however you object to it, on the Tofu page.

Is there a particular reason for that? I'm assuming that it is not something as petty as you be anti-Japanese, so please inform me as to your reason.

thanks.Sennen goroshi 04:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the response. lets leave it as it is and not waste our time any further.

I'm sure someone else will change it at sometime, and someone else will revert it...and it will go on forever, but at least we don't have to waste our time on it anymore.Sennen goroshi 05:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Rice tea

Ha, I don't know why I left that message for myself! Thanks for noticing. Strange that white rice is used for this. Badagnani 10:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be good to make an article about 炒米茶. Badagnani 10:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Tiananmen Square calculation

I did it by looking on Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&ie=UTF8&ll=39.902066,116.391574&spn=0.01335,0.013583&z=16&om=1

On the Map, there is an area calculator that came to 55.25 acres: Here is the area I included: Image:Tiananmen-square.png

Then using the Google calculator: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=55.25+acres+in+square+meters&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

55.25 acres = 223 588.817 square meters

This is much less than the official government claims as the size of Tiananmen Square, which appears to put its claim as the largest urban square in the world in dispute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edchi (talk • contribs) 03:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Fort Street High School

please explain - the unproved claim that Fort Street High SChool is the oldest government school in Australia. I cannot understand why this happened, as I specifically changed the text so that it did not make that claim! I'm not going to change it if I'll only be reverted, so I would like to resolv ethis disagreement before I take any action. Apologies in advance----JamesSugrono^U|C 20:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

See for example [3]. The system of public education began with what became Fort Street High School. enochlau (talk) 00:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Apologies - I hadn't read through the DET's page thoroughly enough! This should teach me to read through sources properly in future.----JamesSugrono^U|C 11:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Chenghuang Miao

Please see my reply on my talk page. Thanks, —O (说 • 喝) 23:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giovanni33-John Smith's

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giovanni33-John Smith's. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giovanni33-John Smith's/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giovanni33-John Smith's/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 01:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

A request

Hello PalaceGuard008, you've done such a great job adding original language refs to the Forbidden City article, I was wondering if you can help with a new article on more recent Beijing architecture.[4] I just started it today and will add a few more paragraphs shortly to prepare it for DYK, with intended coincidence for it to be on the main page on its anniversary of 1 October. If you notice the zh: interwiki, it lists some projects after the 1959 Ten, and I was trying to steer the article away from those and focus on the original. What I'm going to add is some architectural information about the buildings and some more information about the works of art commissioned for the buildings. I have been able to find some excellent references in English, but basically, what I was asking is if you can help expand this article with any Mandarin pages you may be able to find. My ability to read Chinese is still very limited but I do study, have some resources, and have taken a class so I know a few things, but if you can find any online references I would be happy to read them and see this article expanded. Regards, D. Recorder 00:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. Anything that you add, I'm sure will be splendid. I am thinking of starting sections for the second and third paragraphs, with the titles, "art commissions", and "architecture" respectively. And I have some more information to continue along the lines of the third paragraph, maybe with additional subsections of "modernism", "socialist realism", and "historicism" for the architecture section. The article could very well continue with descriptions of the buildings, and make a very full article—but I really want to find more information on the initial planning, and the political situation. Very important in this is finding some sources in Chinese, which is difficult for me since I'm still learning. So any help from you would be fantastic! D. Recorder 01:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Comments left on talk page. Regards, D. Recorder 04:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I object to the redirect

The word "caisson" is meaningless. Please do not do that. I do not care that you ripped off my work (which you did - a copy and paste is an effective deletion. Leave my article to exist because I need it. I'll forgive you for the rip off. --Mattisse 19:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I am going to report this to ANI if you do not stop. You have done no discussion. You simple robbed material from one article to put in yours. I object and will try to get help on this matter to stop you. --Mattisse 20:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I have brought it up on ANI as you refuse to discuss it but acted arbitrarily. --Mattisse 20:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

There is no such a thing as "my article", Matisse (See WP:OWN). Having said that, a redirect without discussion is not unacceptable. If PalaceGuard008 wants to merge and redirect, he needs to place {{mergeto}} and {{mergefrom}} tags in these articles and engage in a discussion. Recurring attempts to redirect and merge without discussion is considered disruptive. See WP:CONSENSUS. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. That is what I wanted to hear. He has already copy/pasted the Zaojing article into his. He pretty much did the same thing with the Dougong article. --Mattisse 20:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)