Pepino2410

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sarah Tkotsch (January 16)

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SwisterTwister talk 19:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Pepino2410! I got your message and would be glad to help you along. Let me know where you'd like to start. If you've edited in de.wiki, then you are probably familiar with the basic technical aspects, but let me know what you need. Montanabw^(talk) 22:43, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

From the above, looks like you are having a little trouble with your draft article. The guidelines that are applicable to your topic are at WP:NACTOR. The sources are in German, but there are other German speakers here who can look them over; the important thing is that beyond basic biographic information, assertions of notability need to be from reliable, third-party sources (for example independent news coverage, not press releases from the film studio, etc.). The article looks adequate in form and structure, just find a few more sources to answer the reviewers' concerns and when you have, let me know before you submit the article and I'll see if I spot any other bit problems. Montanabw^(talk) 22:48, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Montanabw,

thank you very much. I am glad to have someone from English Wikipedia to help me. I've posted an answer on the user's page who declined my article.

It is here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SwisterTwister#https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2FDraft:Sarah_Tkotsch

There I mentioned other sources. For "Spuk am Tot der Zeit" and "Good bye Lenin" I have only sources from the movies itself. I can delete this and only mention that she started at this age.

But the main projects "GZSZ" "In aller Freundschaft" are popular tv series in Germany, so the actress is mentioned there also of course. So is this not a reliable source? It is a TV Production and on her German wikipedia article it was all submitted from wikipedia also

Maybe you could read through this short post which I mentioned above to let me know if the information are good for a resubmit.

Thanks again for your help

Pepino2410 (talk) 05:15, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Eliminating material won't help -- you can list a complete filmography. Given that I do not speak German, I am going to ping Gerda Arendt, who is a native speaker of German, to assist in looking at the sources. The issues raised by the reviewer are not content (for example, it is OK to discuss a notable person's early life), but the question is if she's "notable" at all, as determined by third-party sources. Generally, we are looking for things like movie reviews, the person getting awards, and so on. Just being in a movie or on TV doesn't mean they are automatically notable. For example, there was a very big debate over whether Hilda Plowright, a character actor from the mid-20th century, was notable. Eventually we decided she was and expanded her article to prove it. But that's a good example; some people said she wasn't notable because she only had minor roles, many uncredited. Ultimately though, she had so many roles and did them so well that she was determined to be notable for her accomplishments. Montanabw^(talk) 22:44, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for thinking of me, but I am on vacation and behind with other topics (just managed to nominate the Bach cantata for today for GA, but it's not ready ...). How about contacting Project Germany? I just translated a few articles from German, - often the same problem: no inline citations but based on some offline books without even providing page numbers, - quite frustrating. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Gerda maks a good point; the articles on de.wiki sometimes pass their notability standards but get criticized here because of form more than content. if you can give us links to English translations for the sources (even via Google translate), it helps. For some reason (sexism?) women who are film and TV stars have a harder time than men in similar roles. Look for "third party" sources -- reviews mentioning her, that sort of thing. Add a few of those (even if in German) and let me know when they are added. Montanabw^(talk) 01:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Montanabw,

thank you very much for your assistance so far.

I try to add some linke that I hope will help I need some time for the translation of the references. I will post them here like Link - Translation Pepino2410 (talk) 22:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Montanabw,

here are some translated sources. Maybe it is already enough? Not sure. Would be great if you can take a look

References - Translations

Sarah Tkotsch - This is how happy she is at “In aller Freundschaft”

http://www.promipool.de/artikel/sarah-tkotsch-so-gluecklich-ist-sie-bei-in-aller-freundschaft-122124/

For quite a long time, Sarah Tkotsch has been a member of the main cast of “Gute Zeiten, schlechte Zeiten” and popular among the audience. In 2010, the actress left the show to devote herself to other projects. In the meantime, she has landed a role in the series “In aller Freundschaft”. Sarah Tkotsch (27) has starred in the successful RTL-soap opera GZSZ for more than two years. Currently, the actress regularly stands in front of the camera for the weekly series “In aller Freundschaft” and is very happy about it. The actress explains “I’m very busy right now and it’s all quite a lot, but it’s good that way!” Sarah doesn’t believe in returning to GZSZ: “I have been part of the show for two years, and looking back now, I can say that it wouldn’t be the right thing for me anymore.” The actress was in a relationship with her colleague Jörn Schlönvoigt until 2010 and remained friends with him after the break-up. While he has been invited to be part of the show “Dschungelcamp”, she isn’t sad about not having been made that offer: “This show is not what I want. Being part of it does help to raise your name recognition, but I’m sure I’ll be able to achieve that in another way. I take my work very seriously and I think your chances in the film industry are better if you have not been in that show.”

TV-nurse Sarah Tkotsch rehearses for the emergency

http://www.bz-berlin.de/leute/fernseh-krankenschwester-sarah-tkotsch-probt-den-ernstfall

Sarah Tkotsch stars as the nurse Julia Weiß in the series “In aller Freundschaft”, but how well does she know the real clinical routine? The newspaper B.Z. has invited the actress to the maternity ward in the Martin Luther clinic to give her an insight into the work of a midwife. The actress is highly impressed of what the nurses do on a daily basis: “Just imagine you would once hand out the wrong medicine! I think it’s impressive how they handle the pressure and responsibility.” Sarah is not sure whether she would be able to do this job in reality. But for her work on set, she explains that it helps to keep the work and real clinical routine in mind. When she was a child, the actress wanted to take up a medical profession. “When I was in ninth grade, I did an internship at the paediatric ward for genetic defects because I have always been interested in medicine. That’s why I think it’s quite funny that I play a nurse now, because as child, I wanted to become a pathologist.” Talking of chilren and dreams, what about having children on her own? “I’m not planning on having cihldren any time soon, because I work a lot.” Besides acting, Sarah also works in voice acting. The actress supports the claim that men are more fretful than women: “I believe that women have been given stronger nerves and a higher pain threshold.”

Sarah Tkotsch wants to go back to GZSZ

http://www.bz-berlin.de/artikel-archiv/sarah-tkotsch-will-wieder-zu-gzsz One and a half years after leaving the soap opera, Sarah Tkotsch wants to go back to GZSZ. But RTL declines. She used to be a star, starring as Lucy Cöster in Germany’s most successful daily soap opera “Gute Zeiten, schlechte Zeiten”. Sarah Tkotsch left the show in 2010 after two and a half years - as many other actors before her, who have become popular as part of a show and then move on to become even more popular. Now she would not mind going back: “I would definitely go back to the show, it was such a great time and I have made so many great experiences there.” With her role in the soap opera, the actress not only gave up her permanent TV-presence, but also the steady income. “I have some jobs in voice acting every now and then and I’m working on a book. But in terms of acting, there is no current project.” The actress is often seen at parties and events - which is good for networking. But sometimes, that’s not enough. Having published a manual book for teenagers, she has come to appreciate the steady income she had before. “If I was asked to return to the show, I would say yes.” What does RTL think about that? “Bringing Sarah Tkotsch back to GZSZ is not planned, her character’s story ended with the episode 4563.”

Sarah drops out of GZSZ

http://www.rtl.de/cms/sarah-steigt-aus-345146.html

Sarah has been starring as the gothic girl Lucy Cöster for two and a half years. Millions of viewers watched her fall in love with Philip Höfer, after a lot of back and forth, and how she was overwhelmed by lovesickness when they broke up. Now, the 22-year-old leaves the series: “I’m looking forward to relaxing for a bit.” Learn more about Sarah’s plans in our big Sarah-Tkotsch-Farewell-Interview.

Sleeping Beauty - Interview with Sarah Tkotsch

http://www.tatort-fundus.de/web/folgen/chrono/2000-bis-2009/2005/599-die-schlafende-schoene/interview-sarah-tkotsch.html

How would you describe working with Harald Krassnitzer?

Working with Harald is relaxed, as we have got along very well from the beginning. He is very kind and someone you can always laugh with.

“Die schlafende Schöne” is one of my favourite episodes of the Eisner-series. Have you included you own ideas into the character of Claudia or did you have to stick to the guidelines?

The director Dieter Berner had quite a clear idea of Claudia in mind, but I was still able to include my own ideas. Claudia was supposed to be very cute, the cheekiness she gets from me.

What do you think about th development of the character Claudia Eisner? And what do you think about the character development in the future?

As Tatort is a crime series, the episodes are centered on crime, so there is only a little room for the character Claudia to develop. Maybe, based on her, you will get more insight into Eisner’s private life. In terms of her personal development, she will definitely become older and more mature.

Are there similarities between you and Claudia Eisner?

There are only very few similarities, as she is three years younger than me. When I was her age, I was a little rebellious and curious, just like her.

Have you been to Vienna before? How did you like the city?

I’ve never been here before and I love the city! I love exploring the city, talking walks and discovering new places.

Are there any other current film projects besides Tatort?

Yes, but I’m not allowed to talk about it.

What are your goals as an actress? Can you imagine playing a police officer or a detective yourself?

I don’t have any particular goals, I just really enjoy my job. And of course, I would love to, but I would be quite a short police officer, being only 1,50m tall.

Your sister is an actress as well. Are there more creativ people in your family?

My sister and I have been discovered independently of each other. My father is a ceramist. But as far as I know, there aren’t any other artists in my family.

Can you imagine doing anything else than acting?

No, and I don’t want to. I love everything this job has to offer.

Pepino2410 (talk) 17:17, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sarah Tkotsch. Thanks! SwisterTwister talk 07:25, 20 February 2016 (UTC)