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Hi, I noticed you updated a couple of articles on Ethiopian lakes. I'm always glad to see someone else helping to maintain articles on this subject. However, I thought I should point out that it might be better to also include the Central Statistical Agency figures because (1) the CSA is the official authority for statistics & figures in Ethiopia, (2) these details for lakes fluctuate over time, & (3) in the end, these facts are estimates (some more careful than others) based surveys of the lake (some more accurate than others). Have the relevant passage read something along the lines of "According to the Central Statistical Agency (insert their figures & source); however a recent survey reported (insert their figures & source)." Does this strike you as a reasonable approach to this? -- llywrch (talk) 17:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Llywrch. I agree that depending to climate the lakes in this region are changing. And also that the lokale authority should know best about the current conditions. But a changch of more then 100 m in elevation is more then "current conditions". Check on Google Earth and maps and you will see that some offical or good sources also not as precice as they should. I am sometimes realy suprised how wrong "good" sources especial in case of geografical facts about water bodys in poorer countrys can be (FAO; CIA - Fact book;...). By the way - I live at the moment in a country where the authority is also not telling the facts and it is not a poor country. Regards Peter in s (talk) 00:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I also need to agree that the source I used has mistakes. Lake Basaka is on about 950 m. So what shall we do? Changing everything back? Regards Peter in s (talk) 00:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

(1) My argument for using "official" sources is simple -- "It's their country, they ought to know". ;-) However, simply stating that the country's authorities state X, & other sources state Y leaves the matter to the reader to decide; although, while reading the Ethiopian national censuses I have come across a number of places where I know the numbers have been, well, surprising, on the whole I believe those sources are accurate. (2) As for your statement, "I live at the moment in a country where the authority is also not telling the facts and it is not a poor country" -- can you point out any country where the authorities tell the truth about everything all of the time? I'd disagree with you if you used mine as an example. -- llywrch (talk) 06:05, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Llywrch. For the first I want to thank you for the kindly way you been doing you suggestions and your open speach :-). I have changed the articles like you hopefully meant and I will try to follow your suggestions in future. But some thoughts coming straight in to my mind. From my POV it is difficult to supply to the readers with wrong data (simple check on Google Earth shows other data). Many times my colleagues at the job are complaining that there are to many mistakes in the english wiki. And often no body checks datas again to prove. When you go to the articel Lake Abaya you will see that all the users that translated from english to there language just copied with out proving and multiply the wrong data on that way. Sure we are not responsible for the laziness of the other users, but we are responsible for deliver as good as possible proved data - no? Regards Peter in s (talk) 03:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Pangani River

Hello Peter. Thanks for your note. It's always nice to see other editors improve upon an article that I started. Cheers, --Rosiestep (talk) 14:34, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

My bad

Sorry! You reverted some vandalism, and I accidentally put it back in. I've removed it and the message on your page. My bad! @-Kosh► Talk to the Vorlons►Moon Base Alpha-@ 22:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

OK. Thank you.Peter in s (talk) 22:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

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The Afar were allies of the Solomonid Empire and following the defeat of the Afar Sultanate and their successor states, the Afar clans slowly took over much of the territory south of them. They took Awsa or Aussa oasis in 1672 from the last remaining rump state of the Adal Sultanate. I don't know when or how they took over the highlands further south and became majority Afar but that may have been a more gradual process. The Afar originally inhabited only the northern half of their current territories.Ingoman (talk) 01:52, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Ingoman. But my interest is more related to the source itself. My Bachelor thesis is in the present. So I am using your map just to show where the traditional settlements of the Afar are. But with out a source I cant use it.Peter in s (talk) 07:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

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