User talk:Phil Bridger/July 2019 – September 2019
MRV
editIf you would like to make sweeping and profound changes to the Civility policy, then you would be welcome to do so on its talk page and not on MRV pages. Thank you for your consideration in this matter! Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 04:11, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Regarding Ahir
editHi sir thanks for you concern about Template:Rajput. As you told me to give resources in Talk page of Template:Rajput. I would do the same. And also I will leave hear few resources that indicates relationship between Rajput(Group) and Ahir(Sub-group).
Ahir's relationship with Rajput Dynasty.
editHere's the source which states Ahirs are descants of Yadavas. And are derived from Soomra Dynasty. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=4Cy_-FXW9BQC&pg=PA46&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=Descended%20from%20Yadava%20Sumra%20Dynasty&f=false
And here's the source for Soomra being Rajputs. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Sumra-family
And they are mentioned as Yaduvanshis in many books. One example here:- https://books.google.co.in/books?id=Nvl1SFI1T8QC&pg=PA52&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Yaduvanshi%20Ahirs&f=false
And here's what Yaduvanshi means and how they are Rajputs. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=HLfUAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y
And last but not least:- Several Chandravanshi castes and communities in modern India, such as the Sainis of Punjab Province,[1] Yadav,[2] Ayar,[3] Chudasama,[4]Jadeja,[5] Bhatti Rajputs,[6] Jadaun,[6] and Ahir[7] claim descent from Yadu.
I didn't got reply from you on my talk page so I came over here to leave this here. Please if you may add Ahir back to Chandravanshi Section of Template Rajput or make a new section with heading Yaduvanshi if you still don't believe any connection between Chandravanshi and Yaduvanshi. Thanks. HinduKshatrana (talk) 20:08, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Singh, Kumar Suresh; Sharma, Madan Lal; Bhatia, A. K. (1994). People of India: Haryana. Manohar Publishers. p. 430.
- ^ Pinch, William R. (1996). Peasants and Monks in British India. University of California Press. p. 91. ISBN 978-0-52091-630-2.
- ^ Padmaja, T. Temples of Kr̥ṣṇa in South India: History, Art, and Traditions in Tamilnāḍu. p. 34.
- ^ Jhala, Jayasinhji (1991). Marriage, hierarchy and identity in ideology and practice: an anthropological study of Jhālā Rājpūt society in western India, against a historical background, 1090-1990 A.D. Harvard University.
- ^ Kothiyal, Tanuja (2016). Nomadic Narratives: A History of Mobility and Identity in the Great Indian Desert. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 9781107080317.
- ^ a b Ramusack, Barbara N. (2003). The Indian Princes and their States, The New Cambridge History of India. Cambridge University Press. p. 24. ISBN 978-1-13944-908-3.
- ^ Sudipta Mitra (2005). Gir Forest and the Saga of the Asiatic Lion. Indus Publishing. pp. 83–. ISBN 978-81-7387-183-2. Retrieved 7 August 2017.
Whitewashing
editI know you've been around longer than me Phil, but can we please not accuse a new user whitewashing an article? I'd like for their first experience with Wikipedians to be a little less... that. He seems to genuinely be trying to contribute[1] and even tried citing WP:BLP.[2] –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 19:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- The case looks pretty clear to me, but I'll refrain from commenting further to see if your "softly, softly" approach will work. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Eleanor cross map
editSome years ago you produced a very useful map for the Eleanor cross article. It has worked well for over 10 years, until a few weeks ago when something went wrong, so that it now shows an incorrect section of England. I have no idea what the glitch is, but I have opened a discussion at Talk:Eleanor cross#Map problem if you want to join in. GrindtXX (talk) 18:37, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
A goat for you!
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for the giggles at a recent AfD