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Anlu question

Figured I'd answer the question that you added to the Anlu page (and while we're on the topic, many thanks for the fixes in the intro!). But the region of Cameroon in which the Anlu happened was a part of a German colony which became part of the mandate governed by the British after World War I, the British Cameroons. Eventually, the northern part of the mandate went to Nigeria and the southern part (where this happened) went to the French mandate territory of Cameroon. This happened in 1961 (at the end of the Anlu, not coincidentally). It is still a problem to this day with the British part and the French part in an uneasy arrangement. Hope that helps clarify the point...and cheers! AbstractIllusions (talk) 23:54, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Didn't Peter ask about it...

Do you have Questia access? Information relevant to your question should be on page 42 of the Cracraft book. The Barrow reading also has some information on it. It will be a while (a couple days to a week) before I have the time to add that though. Ryan Vesey

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DYK for Birds of the World: Recommended English Names

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A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	For the many copyedits you have done to new DYKs, I award you this star. Guerillero | My Talk 00:04, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Precious

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Thank you for copy-editing, improving the quality of articles that reach the Main page, from DYK to featured articles such as Messiah (Handel), - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (30 June 2010)!

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Sounds like getting up too early in the morning.... —ph&d

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Thoughts

Hi ... I like most of your edits just now on Horween. But for two. "of the Irish name" is in the ref, and since as you point out we write for a wide audience, I think it appropriate. Similarly, I thought the inclusion of the Harvard record -- which you deleted -- was not an improvement; the record shows how many games the unbeaten team had, and that it had one tie. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

The "Irish" seemed pejorative and obvious, but if you think otherwise, fine. The (second) mention of the team's record repeated the same information (in the same level of detail, down to its W-L-T record) from a few sentences earlier, and was thus redundant; it seemed extra verbiage that didn't really add something, etc. I left the first, but shortened the second. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 13:25, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Not disparaging IMHO, just descriptive. Agree w/second point, which pointed to what I had not seen. (BTW -- no need w/most of us to reply on separate p ... most editors keep an eye on p where they left a message, having it put automatically on their watch list ... and then there is no need to cut and paste and bifurcate the discussion). Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Copying the previous message allows easy back-reference, and allows others (who may happen along later, after the other participant has possibly deleted half of the discussion) to see what the discussion is about, as I see it.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 00:13, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

I would have seen your message had you left it under my message on your page. In my experience, that is what most of us do. Copying messages so that two versions of the conversation appear, on two different pages, is not what I tend to see in conversations -- as there is no need, if we watchlist the page on which we leave a message. As to the specifics, I believe we are squared away. Thanks for the revert on the Irish bit -- as you say on your page, "Folks, this is a worldwide encyclopedia, and as such should be written so that anybody in the world (who knows English) can understand it. ... assuming that people know something ... is antithetical to the Wikipedia mission." Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:10, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Wildlife of Antarctica ref

With regards to the ref you added to Wildlife of Antarctica, how much of the preceding text did it cover? Previously the paragraph was all covered by the cybertuffle reference, and as I can't access your source and there's no quote I can't tell if it covers all the text preceding in the paragraph or just the one sentence. Regards, CMD (talk) 17:01, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Good catch. The sentence I had in mind for that new ref was the one right before the note. I wasn't sure about the text before that sentence. Thank you for pointing that out; I'll 'jump' the footnote now.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 17:05, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! CMD (talk) 17:09, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Just as a general thing, the Wright (1987) work is a comprehensive overview of the ownership-and-control issue (as of then), and its 200-plus footnotes include many sources that are useful in their own right.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 00:17, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, however fantastic a source it is, I can't use it if I can't access it! I suppose it's up to you to spread that source's knowledge throughout wikipedia. CMD (talk) 10:14, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it is too bad that it's not on the Web—yet. Maybe some day.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 13:01, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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Devil's Cigarette Lighter

In answer to your comment, it appears that it was ignited by static electricity (a common hazard with high-velocity gas spewing out of a blowout), but since I couldn't find mentions of the ignition source that could usefully be cited (blogs and random stuff on the Web were where I saw this), I left it out. I had a lot of trouble sourcing it properly, not surprising for something from 1962. I did read the transcript from John Glenn's three orbits, in which he mentions seeing fires and smoke in north Africa: obviously, others made the correlation with the Gassi Touil well fire at the time. Acroterion (talk) 17:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

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Peter Cross DYK

There has been a response to your concerns on the Peter Cross DYK nomination. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 13:45, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Bah!

I know I'm really not supposed to queue up a hook I've passed, but I'm guessing your hook for Elder Village has entirely fallen into the void. I've added the hook into the prep area, so you should see it on the main page in a couple days. Sorry for the long delay; I still don't know what happened. Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your perspicacity! I had pretty much given up on the hook... --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 14:55, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Elder Village

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Aega antarctica

You queried in the article Aega antarctica how the parasite reached its temporary host. The answer is that the sources that I came across did not say. Either the researchers found it on the host or it was on the seabed. Many fish rest on the bottom and then climbing on would be relatively easy for the isopod. In the research in Germany, the researchers used as a host the plaice, which is a bottom-dwelling fish. In the related Aega psora, the host is a shark or cod and in that case I guess the isopod would have to swim to reach one of them. But in Antarctic waters with the temperature below zero, such a sluggish organism seems unlikely to swim much in search of a host. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:09, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps a note to the effect that is is unknown or unclear how the isopod finds/gets to its host would be good... --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 17:41, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

But it might be untrue. I don't know how it gets onto its host but others may know this. The article is not comprehensive in other ways, for example I know nothing about the isopod's reproduction. I prefer to leave the article as it is. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Państwowa Fabryka Karabinów

You reverted this, commenting that it "was illegal". How was the factory equipment illegal? This should be explained. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 11:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

It's not the factory equipment that is illegal. We apparently didn't understand each other. I understood this edit of yours as a statement "it was all fine to take the property of someone else and move it to Germany, it was nothing illegal". I know, I misread your comment :) You on the other hand understand the word "confiscate" as in "The police confiscated the guns from the bad guys". All dictionaries out there suggest that the word means "appropriated by, or as if by authority". As in "all private radios were confiscated by the occupying powers". "Seized" would imply that it was a pretty neutral thing, while it was not. I guess it's a minor problem, but IMHO "confiscate" fits better here. //Halibutt 18:40, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

To my legalistic eye, only contraband (e.g., illegal drugs) is truly "confiscated"; the term suggests that the items seized were contraband. But here, they apparently weren't. It seems to me that using "confiscated" implies that the seizure was justified, while it seems that here, it wasn't. "Stolen" is more of what happened, but that might be a bit strong.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 01:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm not a native speaker and perhaps that's the problem. To me the verb to confiscate explains who does the action of taking something (namely: the authority or someone to pose as such), and not to what is being taken. And that's how I understand the dictionary definitions I could find. Indeed, "stolen" seems more appropriate, except it isn't. Or is it... Nyah, I'll self-rv :) //Halibutt 04:58, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Worcester

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Yes, not quite sure what to do about that. I am tempted to retarget white oak to List of Quercus species#Section Quercus. A large section of Quercus are known as white oak, not just the American species Quercus alba. The European white oak (English oak) is Quercus robur which is the samples I provided photos of. However, Stickley, the father of oak fuming, would have been using American white oak. Both can be fumed. Couldn't guarantee that that applies to all the species listed though, although it probably does. SpinningSpark 18:21, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Grand Tower Island

Response to your comments:

1. Basically a sandbar, I assume, but I'm using it in the sense of "a small river island that's lots longer than its width".
2. I vainly sought a history of Perry County, Missouri, and I consulted a history of Jackson County, Illinois, but I was unable to find a date or year for when the river shifted. "Recorded" here means the historic period, i.e. after the area was settled, unlike oxbows such as Horseshoe Lake, which formed either when nobody was living there or when only Indians were in the area.

What would you suggest I change? Nyttend backup (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Hey buddy, long time no chat!

I'd suggest a parenthetical explanation after "towhead", e.g., "A towhead (a long, thin island) approximately...". As to the date of the channel shift, I'd suggest simply saying that the date of the shift is unclear, just to head off questions like mine. Keep up the good work, BTW. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 01:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Parenthetical note added. I'm loth to say that the shift's date is unclear: I'm sure it's recorded somewhere, such as at the library here, so its absence from the article is purely the result of me lacking the necessary sources. Nyttend (talk) 01:24, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

AuRoRa

Since you (sort of) asked, I'm not certain if the AuRoRa and the Aurora Winter Train are the same topic or not. I've been working on a draft article at User:Mackensen/Aurora (ARR train) with some additional sources stockpiled at User:Mackensen/Stash#Aurora. I can't make the link between the streamliner and the current service. Mackensen (talk) 01:54, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

The Beverly Hills Hotel

I note that you have chosen to add a relatively large amount of cite tags to the text there (looks real bad now, in my opinion). Most or all of the things you are asking about are covered by Sandra Lee Stuart's book. Shall we change it from being the source of only one detail to being a general source for the article? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 05:18, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I have no problem with using one footnote for several sentences in a row, even a whole paragraph, if each fact in it comes from the same source. I do have a problem with uncited sentences, paragraphs, etc. Simply citing the same source (again and again, in necessary) would be a big improvement. The <refname = "Stuart" /> cite tag can help a lot there; page numbers can be tucked in with the {{rp|99}} add-on, as you may know. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 16:08, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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