PilotSheng

RE Finland-NATO

Hi - thank you for your recent edit to Finland-NATO relations. I'm not actually sure it's an improvement, because the same news is reported below in the 'Potential application' section, and the lead section, where you placed the new text, is meant to be a summary of the rest of the article, and the expectation of an application is already mentioned in the first paragraph. On those grounds I'm minded to revert it, but I'd like to hear what you think about whether the article's better or worse for the change (and, ideally, why; maybe we can figure out an even better way forwards). FrankSpheres (talk) 15:15, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the notice, I placed the update cuz Finland joining NATO is one of the most significant points of this article because it is one of the most significant moments in the history of Finland NATO relations which is why I believe it should be placed in the lead because of its overall importance to the article PilotSheng (talk) 15:19, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Makes sense. I agree it's a really significant and historically momentous moment, both for Finland and NATO and also for Europe-wide geopolitics. But, as I say, the expected application's already mentioned in the lead, which is meant to be an ultra-condensed version of the rest of the article. It's possible that today's news was previously not weighted enough in the lead, but I think that your version tips the other way and over-emphasises today's news over the 30-odd years of history and debate. I'll go ahead and try and redress the balance, and if you think it's still not right, go ahead and make some more changes yourself. FrankSpheres (talk) 15:33, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Battle of Sievierodonetsk

Compromise attempt [1]. EkoGraf (talk) 17:11, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@EkoGraf excellent PilotSheng (talk) 18:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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List of Russian generals killed during the 2022 invasion of Ukraine

Greetings, I am contacting you regarding the article. I can't edit it. Please remove the information about Nasbulin. Ukrainian officials did not say anything about him, nor did the Russians confirm. This is only written by the yellow press, unreliable sources. In fact, such a person does not even exist. He was confused with Colonel Nasybulin, who is now wounded. You can read more here https://t.me/DeepStateUA/13387 Князь Полтавський (talk) 10:33, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Князь Полтавський, the Odessa Regional Military Administration claimed the death of Nasbulin on Telegram. This is an arm of the Ukrainian government. We generally don't cite Telegram unless it is supported by self-published media, which it has been here on Newsweek:[2]

It's not up to us to determine what or what not constitutes "yellow press". The only thing we can refer to is Wikipedia's list of deprecated sources, and try to avoid using those.

The "DeepStateUA" has not been cited by any reliable media, as far as I can find. Again, we try not to cite Telegram sources unless it is quoted in a reliable, self-published source not on Wikipedia's list of deprecated sources. Regardless of whether or not Major General Nasbulin was killed, and regardless of whether or not this person even exists, his death has been claimed by Ukraine, and thus deserves inclusion in the article as a "claimed" kill of a Russian general.

Thank you, PilotSheng (talk) 14:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@PilotSheng No no no. And how is the Odesa military administration connected with the events in the Kherson region? Official statements of Ukraine - General Staff, Ministry of Defense, Main Directorate of Intelligence, President of Ukraine, NSDC. Bratchuk himself does not run Telegram and it is ALWAYS just a repost of all the news that is somewhere on the Internet, it is not a primary source. His competence is only to comment on the Odesa region, not the events at the front. In the worst case, this is a statement by Bratchuk, and not officially by Ukraine.

Defense Express has cited DeepState several times. I gave you this link in the first place so that you could follow the history of this hoax for yourself, not for the Wikipedia article. The primary source is Roman Tsymbalyuk, who is a yellow press. Tsimbalyuk was simply repeated by Bratchuk, who repeats all the news that is available on the Internet.--Князь Полтавський (talk) 14:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Князь Полтавський If you feel strongly about this, go make the same point on the talk page of the list of Russian generals article here.

Talk:List of Russian generals killed during the 2022 invasion of Ukraine

If there's a consensus then we can remove the information. PilotSheng (talk) 15:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hi there. I reverted your change calling Zach Edey's mother a second-generation Canadian. The cited source says "first". My interpretation is that she and her parents immigrated to Canada. Are there sources that you can cite that say otherwise? Thanks in advance. —Bagumba (talk) 01:01, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bagumba -- Julia Edey was born in Toronto. Here's a source: [3] with the following text:

"Long before Zach Edey was a rising college basketball star, Julia had her own basketball dream. Born in Toronto, Julia was one of five children in a self-described working-class household..."

I changed the article to reflect this. PilotSheng (talk) 01:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Or should we just explicitly say she was born in Toronto, and not mention generation, which would be implied? (Note that technically, the sources conflict, and it's possible she only grew up in Canada, and maybe we shouldn't mention any of it until it's clearer, but I'm not going to contest it.) Thanks. —Bagumba (talk) 01:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

We could definitely just say she was born in Toronto. There's no need to specify the generation. PilotSheng (talk) 01:26, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

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