User talk:Pkbwcgs/Archive/September 2018
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WPCleaner 2.0
Hello Pkbwcgs/Archive.
I would like to inform you that a new version of WPCleaner is available replacing the old version (v1.43) dating back to almost a year. Unfortunately, going from version 1.43 to 2.0 automatically isn't possible and will require a new installation. It's necessary to install version 2.0 to take advantage of updates and bug fixes. Version 1.43 will have to be uninstalled manually, as there are no more updates for it.
The installation procedure is described at Wikipedia:WPCleaner/Installation.
Note: for usage in Bot mode, I strongly advise to check the modifications to be sure that the tasks run correctly
--NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:22, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- @NicoV: It doesn't look as easy to install the new version of WPCleaner. I can't even get my head round the instructions. Can you please help me out. Thanks. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:27, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. I didn't manage to find an easy way to install the new version, sorry... What's your operating system ?
- First, create a new folder and download both files (getdown.txt and getdown.jar) into it. Next steps are more dependent on your operating system. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:30, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- @NicoV: I can't able to download getdown.txt. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done Understood the instructions at last. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:41, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) It seems some browsers will try to display getdown.txt instead of downloading it (I have to see if I can make this easier) : try right clicking on the link to see if you have an option like "Save link as...".
- If you think the instructions can be made more understandable, tell me ! --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 09:43, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- I tried to make a video tutorial for the installation, hope it's easier. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 13:14, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- @NicoV: Thanks, but I have already managed to install it. Thanks anyway. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:15, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- @NicoV: Oh dear, WPCleaner won't open or execute anymore. It just loads and nothing happens. Is there a bug with WPCleaner? Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:19, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- It is working now but it is a bit more difficult to run it than before. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. Could you try to revert my modification on CW configuration and rerun WPC to see if it's better ? I've activated a lot of errors, maybe some of them are slow. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 10:32, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- It is working now but it is a bit more difficult to run it than before. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- @NicoV: Oh dear, WPCleaner won't open or execute anymore. It just loads and nothing happens. Is there a bug with WPCleaner? Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:19, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- @NicoV: Thanks, but I have already managed to install it. Thanks anyway. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:15, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- I tried to make a video tutorial for the installation, hope it's easier. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 13:14, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done Understood the instructions at last. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:41, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- @NicoV: I can't able to download getdown.txt. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Why did I delete all the other nominations?
[1]. That's an interesting question. It's not unusual for me to take some time when doing an edit - I am easily distracted! Looking at the page history, the stuff that was removed with my edit was fairly recent - within about half an hour of my edit. I don't recall how long I took, but I have had edits open for longer than that, so it is likely I opened the edit over half an hour before I pressed Publish changes. Now, what usually happens when two people edit simultaneously, is that the last person to press Publish changes gets an Edit conflict notice. On this occasion that did not happen. But my edit wiped out the two edits that had been done since I opened the page for editing. Both of those edits had been made with XFDcloser. I shall drop a note to User:Evad37, the creator of XFDcloser to see if that makes sense. SilkTork (talk) 02:00, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
HMM. Just noticed this on the XFDcloser talkpage: User_talk:Evad37/XFDcloser.js#XFDCloser_doesn't_detect_edit_conflicts?. I wonder if that is related? SilkTork (talk) 02:03, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- I've left a note: User_talk:Evad37/XFDcloser.js#Silent_edit_conflict?. I'll keep that page on my watchlist for a few days in case Evad37 has any questions, but I won't be watching this page, so if you have any further questions, please ping me. SilkTork (talk) 02:15, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello Pkbwcgs/Archive, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.
- Project news
- The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
- As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
- There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Coordinator tasks for more info to see if you can help out.
- Other
- A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.
- Moving to Draft and Page Mover
- Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
- If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
- Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
- The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
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Deletion of Template:Nursery rhymes and Template:Children's Games
Hi, I noticed you closed both of these discussions with one keep and two delete, without notifying Wikipedia:WikiProject Children's Literature. Template:Nursery Rhymes in particular was a very useful template and I'm very surprised it was deleted. I'd like to re-open. Thanks! Mvolz (talk) 15:42, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Mvolz: Sorry, but I don't understand. What would you like me to do in terms of re-opening? Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:24, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- In fact, if you notice under the keep vote, a user commented that it doesn't address the concerns. Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not exactly sure what the protocol here is for getting things undeleted, but the undeletion page mentioned commenting on the talk page of the deleter first, so that's the step I'm doing. Those are all concerns I'd be happy to address if the discussion was re-opened, although it's a little difficult without referencing the template as it's already been deleted. But they were grouped by type (i.e. counting games, etc.) This is really useful if you're a playgroup, nursery, library, and trying to come up with curricula and you want, for instance, good counting out games, or are simply a parent that wants to find other similar rhymes. One person commented that they didn't think the organisation of the template was useful but that's a matter of opinion and, in my opinion, they're simply wrong. What would be the next step here for a contested deletion? Mvolz (talk) 18:30, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Mvolz: If you would like deletion to overturn, you can post a request at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Then, if your appeal is successful, deletion will be overturned. Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not exactly sure what the protocol here is for getting things undeleted, but the undeletion page mentioned commenting on the talk page of the deleter first, so that's the step I'm doing. Those are all concerns I'd be happy to address if the discussion was re-opened, although it's a little difficult without referencing the template as it's already been deleted. But they were grouped by type (i.e. counting games, etc.) This is really useful if you're a playgroup, nursery, library, and trying to come up with curricula and you want, for instance, good counting out games, or are simply a parent that wants to find other similar rhymes. One person commented that they didn't think the organisation of the template was useful but that's a matter of opinion and, in my opinion, they're simply wrong. What would be the next step here for a contested deletion? Mvolz (talk) 18:30, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- In fact, if you notice under the keep vote, a user commented that it doesn't address the concerns. Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)