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Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from an article. Please be more careful when editing articles and do not remove content from Wikipedia without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. LittleOldMe 15:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Prince of Wales

Okay, sorry about that. I see your point. I will re-instate your change. Regards LittleOldMe 15:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

HMS Hood page move

I'm not an administrator, so moving a page to an existing page is beyond my capabilities. However, you can request page moves here. Regards LittleOldMe 16:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Majac za soba kilka zlych doswiadczen z takim movami, za Little Old Me polecam WP:RM. A co do USS Tennessee (BB-43) to faktycznie jakis dziwolag, trzeba skleic. Ciekawa konstrukcja tych przyciskow swoja droga, ale faktycznie niepotrzebny wysilek.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  20:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

Hello PMG! Thank you for your contributions related to Poland. You may be interested in visiting Portal:Poland/Poland-related Wikipedia notice board, joining our discussions and sharing your creations with us.

-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  20:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Varuna

Hi, check your mail. I couldn't answer through Your pl.wiki talk page because Szwedzki has blocked me :((( Krystian 09:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Statki

Po prostu {{mergeto}} and {{mergefrom}}, ewentualnie wartianty.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  22:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:Tylko admin

Zrobione.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  19:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Włoskie okręty

Nie moge go zablokowac za dyskusje na it wiki w jezyku ktorego nie rozumiem. Mozesz jasniej - z przykladami z en wiki - opisac, w czym problem?-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  16:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

USS Shaw

Hello, I have posted about the image in question at Wikipedia talk:Featured pictures#Mess with USS Shaw. Conscious 17:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Hampton

My mistake. I didn't realize Category:USS Hampton (SSN-767) was a subcategory of Category:Submarines. Superm401 - Talk 00:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Bayfield template

Template:Bayfield class attack transport - why some of them are commented (that part Cancelled in September 1945) They shuld or not to be in that template ?PMG (talk)

- Sorry, I didn't understand your meaning and the penny only just dropped. You are quite right, that was just a bunch of garbage that shouldn't have been there and I've removed it. Gatoclass (talk) 19:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Szablony

Skasowane. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image:Sam2006.jpg

Prawdopodobnie tak. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Category:Polish Navy ship names

Jest.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:38, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

List of German World War II jet aces

Sure, I will gladly help anyway I can. Unfortunately I don't speak Polish. So you will have to translate for me. MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:Hej

WP:SK - nie kojarze odpowiednika. ACMEC - wydaja sie odpowiednie, oczywiscie kazdy moze dodawac i usuwac szablony tego typu. Techniczne pytania - jasne, ale zobacz tez WP:VPT.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 06:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Bohe moj, popatrzylem teraz do edit. Szablon wyglada dobrze, ale kod, mammamija, oczywiscie ktos cos pomieszal. To powinno byc tak krotkie jak tu. Jeszcze nie widzialem czegos takiego... zobacz kto to zrobil i wyslij go na kurs szablonow :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Kent - niezbyt... {{notability}}, albo {{prod}} z ew WP:AFD.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:34, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Czy ja wiem... roznie bywa, zawsze jest WP:AFD, speedy, prody itp. sa nie zawsze konsekwentne (w koncu mamy kilka tysiecy adminow...).--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Erlanger and Boone County

You said: "BUT in source there is information that they site is Erlanger. So i don`t know: you have right or source :>."

It looks that way at first, but looks are deceiving.

Punch the address (82 Comair Blvd, Erlanger, KY) into Yahoo Maps! And that location will reveal: 1. It is NOT in Erlanger 2. It is NOT in the county that Erlanger is in.

See, the USPS has an address naming system that does NOT coincide with municipal and county boundaries. For instance there are places with Houston, TX addresses that are not in Houston. The reference is for the address of Comair; the address says "Erlanger, KY" but a map search shows that the HQ is outside of Erlanger and in Boone County. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:57, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Removing valid citations

Hi there,

While I appreciate your efforts at cleanup, please exercise caution when removing links. You recently removed an entire citation from Karen Minnis, which contained a complete citation to a newspaper article. Even though the link to the paper's web site is dead, the original article is still a valid and important citation. -Pete (talk) 23:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Oops, that broken citation template was a separate problem, and was my fault. Fixed now. Yes, if you feel compelled to remove dead links, just removing the URL is usually acceptable.

However, there are times when even a dead URL may be useful. In some cases (not this one), http://archive.org may have an archive of the page; also, if there's an "accessdate" parameter in the template, it may be of some use to readers to know that the web link was active at that time (depending on context). I guess I'd suggest leaving a talk page message whenever there's doubt.

I guess I just don't see a whole lot of harm in dead links -- though I do agree that having a whole lot of them is sloppy. I just think it's important to be careful on removing them, to make sure that any actual valid information is preserved. Adding citations is some of the more valuable and time-consuming work that Wikipedia editors do, so past editors should often be given the benefit of the doubt. -Pete (talk) 08:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

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Re: USS Texas

Found some additional info on the radar system, apparently this is meant to mean the first non-prototype, non-experimental version of the radar systems adopted for use by the USN. As it happens, we have a page on the system in question, so a further link has been added and a note inserted for clarity. On the other matter, I am looking into the WWI survivor problem, but alas I am unable to handle both problems in one day, so the issue of who fought and survived WWI will have to wait. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kakashi

The ages given on the en.wiki article are accurate. You can see the various scans here. We sometimes have the problem of people changing ages or other pieces of character information, but they are rarely persistent enough for it to be a problem. I hope the scan proves helpful in reducing the number of times Kakashi's age is changed. ~SnapperTo 23:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: USS Downes (DD-45)

It seems as though you have discovered an error with DANFS since that is what each of those two articles come from. I'm unsure of which one is correct, so your best bet on how to resolve this would be to send an e-mail to the: Naval Historical Center (they would know for sure which version is correct). This is quite normal for DANFS and I believe that wikipedia editors have been successful in having corrections made. -MBK₀₀₄ 21:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: YouTube Awards

It's just a prod, if you disagree with it you can remove it (with an explanation in the edit summary). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:42, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Plan 9 Publishing article nominated for deletion

The Plan 9 Publishing article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. It was nominated for deletion by Guest9999 on 30 October. Because you have edited the article, I am bringing the matter to your attention in case you would like to either comment or improve the article to address the criticisms made of it. Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page. Netmouse (talk) 17:14, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLVIII (February 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XLVIII (February 2010)
From the coordinators March, as you know, is an election month for our project, when we pick the coordinators for the next six months. We are seeking motivated individuals willing to devote some of their time and energy to the project so it continues to grow and prosper. Also, I am making a personal appeal to each of you, the members of this project, to come out and vote for the candidates that run. These users will be responsible for managing the assessment process, answering questions, and making sure that the project's other needs are met. We have approximately 1,000 users who identify as being a part of our project, yet on average only about one-tenth of that number participate in elections. Moreover, as we typically hold referendums on major issues affecting the project along with these election, those who do not vote miss the opportunity to give their opinion on matters affecting the project as a whole. Remember, one vote always makes a difference. For the coordinators, TomStar81 (Talk) 23:47, 6 February 2010 (UTC)	Articles of note New featured articles: Admiralty Islands campaign Alexander Pentland Anthony Roll Battle of Winterthur (1799) Cedric Howell HMS Calliope (1884) The Disasters of War New featured lists: List of battlecruisers of Germany List of National Treasures of Japan (castles) New featured pictures: Australian military encampment, 1918 Injured Arriving by Boat at Balaklava USS New Jersey, 1918 New A-Class articles: Battle of Taejon Bombardment of Papeete First Battle of Maryang San Henry George Chauvel List of Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves recipients: 1942 Michael J. Daly Nguyen Van Nhung No. 1 Wing RAAF Oswald Watt Red Tail Project Siege of Godesberg (1583) SMS Goeben Yermolayev Yer-2
Project news A discussion has begun concerning our military history manual of style's guideline recommending preemptive disambiguation on the naming of military units. As the outcome of the discussion will likely effect a number of pages within our scope we are seeking input from the community on whether the guideline should be changed. Late last year, several largely inactive task forces were merged. However, the mergers of the Australia and New Zealand task forces did not take place as there was no consensus for a new name. To resolve this, a discussion has begun and all editors are encouraged to participate.
Contest department The Contest Department has completed its thirty-fourth month of competition; and its sixth month under the new scoring system. A total of 82 articles were entered by eight editors. Kumioko came first with 110 points, followed by Sturmvogel 66 with 87 points. They receive the Chevrons and Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to Auntieruth55 (59) and Ian Rose (36). Binksternet, Cirt, Radeksz and YellowMonkey also fielded entries. Please submit any articles you are working on for the March contest.
Awards and honours Brad101 has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his excellent reviewing and work on a sizable number of nautical articles that fall within our scope, producing a number of high-quality articles for the Military history and Ships WikiProjects. The A-Class medal has been awarded to Anotherclown for his work on Operation Coburg, Battle of Bita Paka and First Battle of Maryang San. The A-Class medal with Oak Leaves has been awarded to MisterBee1966 for his work on Max-Hellmuth Ostermann, List of Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves recipients: 1940–1941 and List of Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves recipients: 1942.
Editorial: Reliable sources in military history Across Wikipedia, guidelines have been set up so that editors can vet sources for themselves. Links to some of these and a guide for checking if a source is reliable can be found in an excellent Signpost dispatch written by Ealdgyth (talk · contribs). However, for the majority of military history-related topics, we strive for more than just a basic reliable source. Specifically, we aim for peer-reviewed articles and books over, for example, most websites. Contemporary news articles or accounts can and should be mixed in (if possible) to give a picture of the general view point of the time—were they calm, afraid, unsure of what was going on? Another major tenet is neutrality. If an editor rewrote the article Dieppe Raid using only the official Canadian history, we would have a problem; while it does contain a thorough and in-depth overview, a point-of-view can still be read. For one, it gives an undue amount of focus to Canada's input in the planning of the landing, and it would probably give an undue focus to their troops if a majority of the landing forces hadn't been Canadian. Granted, this is a book written to document that country's role in the Second World War, so you would hope it focuses on them, but this same reason makes it unusable as the primary basis for an article. In this case, you would like to utilize a few recent, peer-reviewed books and journals, the official British, Canadian and German histories, possibly a few books written by historians from the aforementioned countries, and newspapers from that time period. Obviously this is ideal, but you need to represent all three sides in this (the United States would be a fourth, but they played only a minor role in the planning and invading). This neutrality aspect applies especially for battles and to a lesser degree biographies, but it can be utilized in virtually every article in our scope. For example, it could be beneficial to obtain Japanese accounts of B-29 Superfortress bombing raids or non-Puerto Rican peer-reviewed sources for that insular area's role in the Second World War. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) Notes
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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLIX (March 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XLIX (March 2010)
From the coordinators I am pleased to report that the March coordinator elections have concluded, and that 15 members have been selected to serve as coordinators from April to September. Special congratulations go to AustralianRupert, Dank, MisterBee1966, NativeForeigner, Patar knight, and Ranger Steve, all of whom are newly elected coordinators. As we start this new tranche we welcome all returning coordinators, and wish those who decided not to stand for reelection luck as they move on to new things. In other election news, a motion made to extend the coordinator tranche from its current six-month term to one full year gained consensus from the election participants. This will take effect in September, during the next election cycle. For the IX Coordinator Tranche, TomStar81 (Talk) 05:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)	Articles of note New featured articles: 21st Regiment Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry Battle of Osan Bayern class battleship Dutch 1913 battleship proposal Karl Aloys zu Fürstenberg Mary Rose No. 1 Wing RAAF USS Congress (1799) New featured lists: List of Medal of Honor recipients for the Boxer Rebellion List of Medal of Honor recipients for the Vietnam War List of United States Military Academy alumni (Confederate States Army) New featured topics: Battlecruisers of Germany New featured pictures: Cavalry At Balaklava New A-Class articles: Allan Walters Army of the Danube Battle of Dürenstein Byzantine-Sassanid War of 602–628 HMAS Sydney (R17) Horses in World War I Lê Văn Duyệt Michael P. Murphy Roderic Dallas USS Triton (SSRN-586)
Project news Operation Normandy In May 2008 a small group of editors, operating from a page in Cam's userspace, began work on improving Wikipedia's articles relating to the pivotal Second World War Battle of Normandy that took place in northern France between 6 June and the end of August 1944. Milhist has now adopted this collaboration as our third special project. The aim of Operation Normandy is to bring all core topics—official operations, battles, and the invasion beaches—to featured status by the 70th anniversary of D-Day on 6 June 2014. More information can be found on the project page; any interested editors are most welcome to sign up and help us meet this challenging goal! Henry Allingham World War I Contest Our Henry Allingham World War I Contest ended on 11 March with the following results: in first place was Sturmvogel 66; in second place was Ian Rose; in third place was Dana boomer; and the finalists were Abraham, B.S., Carcharoth, and XavierGreen. The contest produced an incredible 238 recognised article improvements, of which 6 were Featured articles, 13 were A-Class articles and 22 were Good articles. In addition 43 newly created or expanded articles were successfully submitted for the 'Did you know' section on Wikipedia's main page. Our warmest congratulations go to the medallists and finalists, and our grateful thanks go to all participants and particularly to Eurocopter for organizing the contest. Would you like to get more involved in the project? There are many open tasks that could use your help. The project's review department is always in need of input at peer reviews, A-class reviews, FACs and FARs; these can be found here. Also, the project maintains a list of deletion debates for military-related articles that have been nominated for deletion; project members are encouraged to provide their opinions in this forum so that consensus can be established. Finally, if content creation is more what you are looking for, each of the project's 48 task forces maintains a list of requested articles. Your comments are invited in the following ongoing project discussions: Pre-emptive disambiguation. Since 2006 our in-house style guide has recommended disambiguating the titles of articles about military units whether another article of the same name exists or not. The continued need for this practice is under discussion. Merging the Australian and New Zealand task forces. This is the final call for editors to have their say in choosing a name for the shortly-to-be-merged Australian and New Zealand task forces.
Contest department The Contest Department has completed its thirty-fifth month of competition. A total of 66 articles were entered by ten editors. Kumioko came first with 105 points, followed by Lordoliver with 79. They receive the Chevrons and Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to Auntieruth55 (75), Ian Rose (53), Parsecboy (35), and Historical Perspective (31). Binksternet, Cirt, Radeksz and YellowMonkey also fielded entries. Please submit any articles you are working on for the April contest.
Awards and honours The WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves has been awarded to: Nick-D in recognition of his long and distinguished service as a coordinator of this project from February 2008 to March 2010; sterling efforts on "big picture" subjects, including ten featured articles; and his tireless participation in discussion and review. Sturmvogel 66 in recognition of his distinguished service as a coordinator of this project, extraordinary performance within the Henry Allingham World War I Contest and other extremely valuable contributions to the project. The A-Class medal has been awarded to: Auntieruth55 for her work on Siege of Godesberg (1583), Karl Aloys zu Fürstenberg and Army of the Danube. Kumioko for his work on Smedley Butler, Michael J. Daly and Michael P. Murphy. The A-Class medal with Oak Leaves has been awarded to: Ian Rose for his work on Alexander Pentland, Oswald Watt and Roderic Dallas.
Editorial: Translating article writing to real life I (Ed) am a college student in the United States, and as part of attaining my desired degree, I chose to take a course in Arab-Islamic history. We began in the early 600s and spent some time on the origins of the Islamic conquering of the Sassanid Empire and partial takeover of the Byzantine Empire (c. 634–750). From there, we have moved through the various ages of history, and the class recently began discussing the Ottoman Empire and other Islamic regions of more recent times. As we began discussing the Ottoman Empire's role in the First World War, our professor mentioned that they were blockading the Bosphorus, using it as a chokepoint to cut off needed supplies traveling to Russia's only warm-water port, Sevastopol. An astute classmate, realizing this meant the use of warships, wondered what naval technology was like during this time. The professor turned and asked me to answer the question, as he knew I had been studying naval history and believed that I knew more about the subject. The point of this anecdote is not to boast, but to provoke some thought. By virtue of the research Wikipedia writers must do to write complete, referenced articles, many of us are acquiring knowledge in specialized topics that can surpass even learned scholars. Wikipedia might even provoke some of us into becoming learned scholars through the subjects we find here. To profile one such case, take a look at Parsecboy. Beginning in May 2007, he came across a few essentially empty stubs on German battleship classes. Nearly 3 years later, he's written or collaborated on more than forty articles rated as good or higher, including over a dozen featured articles and a featured list; the majority relate to German warships. The work Parsecboy has done for Wikipedia has had a tremendous impact on his academic career: to complete his undergraduate degree, Parsecboy is currently writing an Honors Thesis that will analyze the British and German battlecruiser squadrons during the First World War. Parsecboy plans to attend graduate school and continue his research in the area, culminating in a dissertation. He comments that "without a doubt, I would not have had nearly as much knowledge and interest in the topic, nor would I have known where to begin researching if I had not become so involved with the topic here on Wikipedia." The knowledge you acquire through writing Wikipedia articles will remain with you for the rest of your life. Try to find a way to use it to your advantage. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) and Parsecboy (talk)
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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : L (April 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue L (April 2010)
From the coordinators It's been a month since the end of the coordinator elections, and I am proud to inform the project that the IX coordinator tranche is doing well. Our new coordinators are rapidly learning the ropes, and the last of the task forces under consideration for merging have been consolidated into a new task force which should increase productivity and improve quality article output. At the moment the coordinators are discussing preliminary plans for an improved version of The Bugle, and are working with editors from the American Civil War task force who are in the process of organizing a new special project relating to that conflict. It is our hope to see these changes implemented in the upcoming month. Lastly, as many of our members are also in school, we extend our best wishes to all who will be taking final exams both this month and next. For the IX coordinator tranche, TomStar81 (Talk) 22:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)	Articles of note New featured articles: Battle of Dürenstein Battle of Pulo Aura Battle of Taejon Battle of The Cedars Brougham Castle Cleomenean War Harry Chauvel Japanese battleship Yamato Lester Brain Myles Standish Roderic Dallas USS President (1800) War of the Bavarian Succession New featured lists: Order of battle at the Battle of Camperdown New featured topics: Yamato class battleships New featured portals: Biological warfare New A-Class articles: 22nd Regiment Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry Battle of Chochiwon Battle of Chonan Battle of Naktong Bulge Battle of Pyongtaek Battle of Slater's Knoll Battle of The Cedars Battle of Valcour Island Brian Eaton Douglas MacArthur Heinrich Prinz zu Sayn-Wittgenstein HMAS Australia (1911) Kongō class battlecruiser‎ List of battleships of Germany Massachusetts in the American Civil War Operation Sandblast Order of Saint Hubert (Bavarian) Ordnance QF 25-pounder Short Petlyakov Pe-3 SMS Helgoland Sovetsky Soyuz class battleship
Project news With consensus reached on a new name, the project's Australian military history and New Zealand military history task forces have been merged to form the Australia, New Zealand and South Pacific military history task force (shortcut: WP:ANZSP). Under its wider remit, this task force will also include those islands and regions of the South Pacific not covered by our Southeast Asian military history task force. Coordinators Ian Rose and AustralianRupert have transferred across and will continue to serve as coordinators for the ANZSP task force.
Contest department The Contest Department has completed its thirty-sixth month of competition. A total of 50 articles were entered by eight editors. Parsecboy came first with 126 points, followed by Ian Rose with 73. They receive the Chevrons and Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to Historical Perspective (72), Auntieruth55 (62), and Kumioko (30). Lordoliver, Binksternet and LeonidasSpartan also fielded entries. Please submit any articles you are working on for the May contest.
Awards and honours The A-Class medal has been awarded to: Auntieruth55 for her work on Battle of Dürenstein, War of the Bavarian Succession and Order of Saint Hubert (Bavarian). Ed! twice for his work on Battle of Osan, Battle of Taejon, Battle of Pyongtaek, Battle of Naktong Bulge, Battle of Chonan and Battle of Chochiwon. Magicpiano for his work on Battle of Ticonderoga (1759), Siege of Fort Ticonderoga (1777) and Battle of The Cedars. Nick-D for his work on Dutch 1913 battleship proposal, No. 1 Wing RAAF and Ordnance QF 25-pounder Short. Saberwyn for his work on Collins class submarine, HMAS Sydney (R17) and HMAS Australia (1911). Sturmvogel 66 for his work on HMS Lion (1910), Yermolayev Yer-2 and Sovetsky Soyuz class battleship. The A-Class medal with Oak Leaves has been awarded to: Hawkeye7 for his work on Vernon Sturdee, Harry Chauvel and Douglas MacArthur. Ian Rose for his work on Allan Walters, Lester Brain and Brian Eaton. Parsecboy for his work on SMS Goeben, SMS Helgoland and List of battleships of Germany.
Editorial: Milhist's special projects This month we're taking a look at the Military history WikiProject's special projects. At present we have three—Operation Great War Centennial, Operation Majestic Titan, and Operation Normandy—with, as Tom mentions in his introduction, a fourth coming on line as this newsletter goes out. Operation Great War Centennial Officially the longest running of our special projects, this started in December 2008 with the ambitious goal of improving our core articles relating to the First World War by June 2014. As it states on the project's page, "the centenary of the start of World War I ... will doubtless be a mammoth commemoration of one of the most significant wars in history, attracting vast interest from schools, universities, veterans groups and the media. It offers us the chance to showcase what a brilliant resource Wikipedia is". With World War I receiving well over 20,000 page views per day on most days, the truth of these words is evident and the opportunity too good to miss. Operation Great War Centennial has compiled a list of over 300 articles covering topics such as battles, geographical areas, people, armaments, and technology; while some have achieved featured or good status, the majority are at B-Class or below, so there is plenty there for willing editors to get their teeth into. Operation Majestic Titan The home of our much-respected and admired "Battleship Cabal", Operation Majestic Titan started in June 2009 with the aim of creating the "single largest featured topic on Wikipedia, centered around the battleships considered, planned, built, operated, canceled, or otherwise recorded." At time of writing the prolific Majestic Titan team has produced an impressive 33 featured articles, 19 A-Class, 60 good articles, three featured topics and six good topics. According to the project's working list, there are only 427 more articles to go... Operation Normandy Although it first appeared in Milhist's pages in March 2010, this project had been formerly operating out of Cam's userspace as the "Normandy Team" since May 2008, making it a contender for our longest-running unofficial special project. Operation Normandy is aiming to create a Featured Topic on the Second World War Battle of Normandy by the 70th Anniversary of D-Day on 6 June 2014. With nine featured articles so far and 29 more to go, progress has been steady. More help, however, is always welcome. Our fourth special project, American Civil War Sesquicentennial, is in the process of organising and at present lacks a name (see this discussion if you have any suggestions). The project will be looking to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the American Civil War by its sesquicentennial anniversary in 2011. The beginning of a drive is always an exciting time to get involved, so interested editors are strongly encouraged to drop by and sign up. Special projects are a great way of organising a long-term collaboration with a specific end-point in mind, and tend to be more goal-oriented and focused than the general task forces or informal working groups. Joining a special project is also a fantastic way to work alongside like-minded editors with whom you'll undoubtedly develop close working relationships; by your third or fourth FA submission you'll hopefully be operating as part of a well-oiled team. Editor roles are many and varied: content writers, source material providers, image- and map-makers, copy editors, reviewers, MoS gurus, wikignomes, specialists and generalists... you're sure to find a job that suits you and benefits the team. If you have an idea for a special project or are already undertaking a collaboration that you think fits in with the ethos of those above, and you'd like to benefit from Milhist's support and infrastructure, consider dropping the coordinators a note. Personally I've found the synergy and teamwork of contributing to a special project (Operation Normandy in my case) to be one of the most rewarding and enjoyable aspects of my time here. I hope you will too. EyeSerenetalk 14:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LI (May 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue LI (May 2010)
From the coordinators With Eurocopter's resignation (see editorial below), this month marks the end of his tenure as a project coordinator. Eurocopter has been with the team for almost three years now and will be sorely missed, but he has taken the tough decision that his real life commitments have unfortunately made it too hard for him to focus on his coordinator duties. We wish him good luck in the future, both in real life and on-wiki. Efforts to redesign The Bugle are moving forward and it is our intention to roll out a new format, based on the Signpost, for next month's issue. We hope that this will allow us to provide better coverage of the project's news by allowing more room to expand on the stories we bring to you. If you have any comments or suggestions on what we can do to improve coverage, please let us know. —your IX Coordinator Tranche, May 2010	Articles of note New featured articles: Action of 1 August 1801 Battle of Villers-Bocage Brian Eaton HMAS Australia (1911) HMS Lion (1910) Japanese battleship Tosa New featured lists: List of battleships of Germany New A-Class articles: 102nd Intelligence Wing Battle of Quebec (1775) Bombing of Yawata (June 1944) Deutschland class battleship Indiana class battleship Russian battleship Slava SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand SMS Hannover William Ellis Newton
Project news With consensus reached on a name the American Civil War task force has officially opened our newest special project. Codenamed Brothers at War, its goal will be "...to improve [US Civil War] related Wikipedia articles to featured status, and to see as many of these as possible appear on the main page on their respective 150th anniversaries." The straw poll concerning preemptive disambiguation of military units as outlined by our Manual of Style has been closed, with near unanimous consensus that the current practice of preemptive disambiguation be retained. Thanks to everyone who participated in either the discussion or the straw poll. Members of Operation Majestic Titan have adopted a three-tiered award system to show appreciation to those who have done work on battleship or battlecruiser articles. Formally known as the Titan's Cross, the award has been issued to Parsecboy, Climie.ca, The ed17, and MBK004. The project's official IRC channel (#wikipedia-en-milhist) has been restarted. Project members and anyone interested in military history are encouraged to join us for substantive discussions, social discourse and a few laughs. Instructions on how to get on IRC are available here.
Contest department The Contest Department has completed its thirty-seventh month of competition. A total of 119 articles were entered by nine editors. Buggie111 came first with 139 points, followed by The Bushranger with 120. They receive the Chevrons and Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to Sturmvogel 66 (115), Parsecboy (86), Ian Rose (56) and Auntieruth55 (52). The ed17, LeonidasSpartan and Historical Perspective also fielded entries. Please submit any articles you are working on for the June contest.
Awards and honours The A-Class medal has been awarded to: Sturmvogel 66 for HMAS Australia (1911), Petlyakov Pe-3 and Russian battleship Slava. The A-Class medal with Oak Leaves has been awarded to: Parsecboy for Deutschland class battleship, SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand and SMS Hannover.
Editorial: Project coordination and constructive editing For those of you who might not know me, I'm Eurocopter. I served as a coordinator of the Military history WikiProject from August 2007 until few days ago, when I decided to resign due to real life issues making it impossible for me to continue to perform project duties on a regular basis. Reflecting on my experience and activities within the project, I decided to write this editorial to set out a few thoughts and offer some advice to interested members. First of all, what does project coordination mean and how does it help the Military history WikiProject? Although the coordinators do not have any real executive powers, they play an important role in project management. To make editing contributions easier for our members we establish guidelines, manage Peer and A-Class reviews, and consult and assist when needed. The primary goal of the coordination team has always been to stimulate the development of quality articles and, once they have been developed, to facilitate maintaining them at a high standard for as long as possible. This has been carried out through the organization of a considerable number of assessment drives, contests and special projects. However, there is still much to be done to make the project one of the best and most active wiki-communities. Coordinator involvement in trying to achieve this, as the central promoters of any activity undertaken within the project, is more than important; the coordination team should stand as an example of civilised and constructive cooperation. Perhaps the most annoying issue—unfortunately quite widespread through the pages of Wikipedia—is POV-dominated conflict. While such a phenomenon might seem inevitable in a community within which hundreds of members of different nationalities with different historical and political views interact, it doesn’t mean we should accept it. The ability to neutrally mediate such conflicts is an important and desirable coordinator function. Secondly, but most importantly in my opinion, is the question of how the project enables editors to contribute effectively. Perhaps you already know how difficult it is to take an article to the highest quality levels such as A-Class or featured status. It is even harder to do this working alone. I believe the best thing the Military history WikiProject has done is to bring together groups of editors with similar interests. As there are very few editors skilled in all the diverse article development areas, you might feel the need for help from editors more experienced in, for example, advanced copy editing, image editing etc. To this end the project provides task forces and special projects where members should always feel encouraged to ask questions, discuss, debate and give advice. Such cooperation is the best way to create properly balanced articles and to establish a neutral point of view. Our Style guide and Academy are also useful in guiding you along the path of writing an article. A final, but vital, part of the collaborative article writing process is editor behaviour when interacting with other editors who are contributing to the same article. Even on those occasions where an editor upsets you or allows their personal opinions to influence their editing, always remain calm, civil and try to reach an agreement. Contributing to Wikipedia is something most of us do as a hobby; time spent in useless conflicts is precious editing time wasted. All in all, the Military history WikiProject is a good meeting point for milhist-interested editors, both beginners and advanced, with someone always there to give help and advice when needed. I wish to thank all my fellow coordinators and project members who keep this beautiful community running. I will certainly miss it! Best regards and happy wiki-editing! Eurocopter (talk) 20:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LII (June 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue LII (June 2010) Front page Project news Articles Members Editorial

Project news Catch up with our project's activities over the last month, including the new Recruitment working group and Strategy think tank	Articles Milhist's newest featured and A-Class content
Members June's contest results plus the latest awards to our members	Editorial LeonidasSpartan shares his thoughts on how, as individual editors, we can deal with frustration and disappointment in our group endeavour
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Project news New parameter for military conflict infobox introduced; Preliminary information on the September coordinator elections	Articles Milhist's newest featured and A-Class content
Members July's contest results, the latest awards to our members, plus an interview with Parsecboy	Editorial Opportunities for new military history articles
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Re: FT

Generally, an episode article is written if there is enough written on said episode to justify writing the article. For some TV shows, it may only be a handful of episodes, whereas with others, such as the Simpsons, every episode could easily be made into a GA. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 21:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'm pretty much the person that runs them at this point. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 00:42, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Responding to the Star Ward note, that's being discussed for removal. I imagine the consensus would be quite obvious, so it will be delisted as soon as I get around to it. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 05:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

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Hey PMG, I know little to nothing about U-boats and have no sources on them. I would try User:Sturmvogel 66, but otherwise, I don't know how much we have here. User:Bellhalla was the expert, but he's been gone for quite some time. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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RE: Battlecruisers of Japan

It is my intention to eventually take the topic for FC, but at this point 50% of the articles are required to be featured, and currently only 30% are. Even with the old 1/3 rule I'd still need one more FA. I've been on an on/off wikibreak for the past five months (what with real life getting in the way and all that), but I'm hoping to take hopefully one (if not both) of the necessary articles through an FAC before the end of 2011. Cam ^(Chat)(Prof) 16:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: 1948 Summer Olympics Medal Table

Hi there,

Essentially the Olympic Committee of Israel has existed since 1933, when it was the National Olympic Committee (NOC) of British Palestine; however in 1948 with the emergence of the modern Israel the Arabic countries threatened to boycott the Olympics should Israel be allowed to participate and fly their flag at the opening ceremony rather than the flag of Palestine. So the technicality used was that since Israel was a new country, the old NOC wasn't recognized and therefore Israel had no NOC and couldn't participate. However, by the 1952 games, the same NOC was recognized once again and Israel was allowed to participate. Miyagawa (talk) 17:27, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Alaska topic

While the infoboxes should be fixed per your note, I don't see it as a hindrance to the topic being promoted. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:47, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

re: Problem on pl

for topics, any related articles would have to be good articles; simply leaving an article off because it's not at that level defeats the purpose. That being said, I don't know if plwiki has a featured list process, so where the article is now I don't know if it could be added in. It looks like more of a judgment call situation to me honestly. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:44, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

8"/55 caliber gun

Do you have specification data for this weapon, or was your change in response to an assumed 8 inch diameter?

United States Navy practice specified bourrelet diameter at 0.015 inch less than nominal bore diameter with a minus manufacturing tolerance such that the average maximum diameter of an 8-inch projectile (neglecting the malleable copper rotating band) was expected to be 7.988 inches. Rotating band diameter was a few thousandths of an inch greater than the groove-to-groove diameter of rifling depth typically up to one percent of caliber, and might have been as great as 8.18 inches. Bore diameters were measured land-to-land with positive manufacturing tolerances. Erosion was expected to increase that diameter over the life of the gun; but no effect on dispersion was anticipated until bore diameter exceeded 8.038 inches. Concern was greater about possible reduction of bore diameter. Copper deposits from rotating bands were common, but of less concern than the possibility of bore constriction caused by hoop slippage past a shoulder during relative movement of the elements of a built-up gun. The thermal expansion coefficient of steel limits the accuracy of 4-digit figures to a temperature range of 6 Celsius degrees and the above variation make 3-digit figures questionable. I suggest 20 centimeters may be a reasonable conversion unless you have specific information on this weapon.Thewellman (talk) 00:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I didn't wish to be argumentative. I was simply responding to your request that I change values I consider to be correct. I am a licensed engineer with 50 years experience converting between metric and United States customary units. I was a weapons officer aboard a heavy cruiser and taught a naval weapons course for the United States Navy at the University of Illinois. My first concern is with the number of decimal places in the official weapon description. The subject of this article was an 8-inch gun, rather than an 8.0-inch gun or an 8.00-inch gun. I believe the ideal conversion would be a 2-decimetre gun, but that might puzzle some readers. Manufacturing specifications provided more decimal places, but this article doesn't cover that level of detail. If an editor wished to provide such information, it would be appropriate to identify which of the various dimensions was being specified and what the manufacturing tolerances were for that dimension. In the absence of such specificity, untrained editors and readers tend to use too many decimal places in metric conversions. I encourage you to provide in-line reference citations if you change the values you mentioned.Thewellman (talk) 18:03, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

It is I who should apologize to you because I cannot communicate in Polish as well as you communicate in English. I have been unable to explain the difference between 8 inches (2 decimetres) and 8.00 inches (203 millimetres). It is precision rather than distance.Thewellman (talk) 18:55, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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