Ppw1148

Tank Johnson's number

Do you have a source for that?►Chris Nelson^Holla! 02:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

This is indeed correct (#66). As a side note, you (Chris) shouldn't be reverting things just because you haven't seen it yet. For instance, in this case you could've done a 5 second google search, and seen multiple stories showing Tank Johnson took #66. Reverting something just because you haven't seen it yet borders close to WP:OWN. Bjewiki 02:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

It has zero to do with WP:OWN. I've tried to find a source for it but couldn't and he was a new user so I really didn't know if he had a source or if he was messing around. Since the latter was a possibility, it was best to undo it until a source was found.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 03:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Alright, no need to fight here. If y'all have a dispute between each other (Bjewiki, Chrisjnelson), take it to either one of your talk pages. No use crowding up an innocent user's talk page with your issues.

For the record, Chris, you are too rash when reverting. If somebody says something that you don't know if it's true or not doesn't mean anything. Just because you don't think something is true doesn't mean it isn't.

Somebody makes an edit. You don't have a source, and you revert them. I haven't ever seen you provide a source for all the edits you've made to those roster templates, so should I just revert every single one of them because you didn't provide a source? Since you think you can do this, I suppose I can too, right? Ksy92003(talk) 06:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Holy hell, I haven't seen an edit dispute not involving you where you haven't shown up. Honestly, maybe editing and improving articles would be a better alternative than constantly monitoring Chris' (and mine, as made evident by Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/JerryBusser) contributions. Bjewiki, the first thing we turn to when checking edits made to the rosters is the team's website, and Tank (and by extension his number) isn't listed there. Most newspapers will have the transactions before they get to the team websites, but they rarely have the jersey numbers. Also, Tank is on suspension, which means he essentially cannot be at the team's facilities until his suspension is over. So initial logic would say that he hasn't been assigned a number yet. Finally, if you or a couple other of the editors who update the rosters frequently had made the edit, it probably wouldn't have been reverted. But believe me, there's at least 3-5 newbie or vandal edits a week to the roster templates. Sometimes it's by users who try to turn the roster into a depth chart. Sometimes it's by users who just go in and screw up the code for whatever reason. And sometimes it's users who add players to the templates who haven't yet signed, make roster moves that haven't yet occurred, or try to guess on player numbers. There's even an editor to the Ravens' roster who every once in awhile will edit it (as well as a few other pages), insisting that Matt Stover and Ray Lewis were released in 2003. So we've seen everything, and when we see a number for Tank, we're skeptical. Chris and I take a lot of pride in the roster templates and keep them updated daily. The last thing we want to see is inaccurate information going into them, so that's why we like to see confirmation. Pats1 ^T/C 13:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

First of all, Pats1, I saw the post that Chris left Bjewiki and followed it here because I was curious to see how Chris got into another dispute.

Secondly, the only reason why I wouldn't revert Chris ("You don't have a source, and you revert them. I haven't ever seen you provide a source for all the edits you've made to those roster templates, so should I just revert every single one of them because you didn't provide a source? Since you think you can do this, I suppose I can too, right?") is because this would violate WP:POINT, something that Chris has been blocked for before. Ksy92003(talk) 13:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not going to repeat what I just said. Before reverting anything on the roster templates, I (and presumably Chris) will double check the edit against an official website or other source. We'll also think about the edit logically (i.e. if someone removes Tom Brady and Randy Moss from the Patriots' roster template, or changes Brady's number to 73, there's no point in researching.) But logic says that Tank is barred from the Cowboys' facilities and doesn't yet have a number, and this was backed up initially by the Cowboys' website. In fear of having inaccurate information on the template, we're going to ask for a source instead of searching for an obscure blog post or web page or article. But let's be realistic here. Chris and I have both made well over 1,000 edits to the roster templates, and how many times have we posted inaccurate information? This user, ppw1148, had made none (and only a handful of other edits) before this. We did assume good faith and made an effort to find the number on the Cowboys' website. But it wasn't there so that's why we (gasp!) asked for a source before the info was consummated. Pats1 ^T/C 14:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Copied This thread to Template_talk:Dallas_Cowboys_roster...post any further comments there, so as not to clutter up this User's talk page...Bjewiki 13:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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