User talk:Psyc452-GGeorge/Evolutionary psychology of non-kin group interactions

Defense of the Article

The Main page for Evolutionary Psychology is already TOO BIG and does not fully address group interactions. No existing article focuses on group interactions from an evolutionary viewpoint. This subject is indeed notable and has been researched. These group interactions are not limited to reciprocity, hence the Content Fork argument shouldn't apply here. If the article isn't fully developed yet, might it be labeled as "starting" or a stub? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Psyc452-GGeorge (talk • contribs) 10:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

The issue is not related to the evolutionary psychology article, but the reciprocal altruism article. I'm no expect, but the article as it stands doesn't really talk about evolutionary psychology at all. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:23, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

This article would serve well as the main page for topic of non-kin group interactions as it pertains to reciprocity and under an evolutionary psychology standpoint. While the research provided in this article is not as extensive as perhaps other evolutionary psychology articles on wikipedia, it does manage to file out a good amount of substantial research information on the subject. There is not a huge amount of research on this topic to begin with. I vote the article remains standing and that as users approach it in the future, they simply add to it to increase its credibility as the main page for the topic. Comment added by User:LochNess14. —Preceding undated comment added 19:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Wiki-Linking

Several links were added throughout the entry to relevant subjects.

Article title

The article seems to be specifically about reciprocal altruism rather than all non-kin group interactions. I think the title should be changed to reflect that (e.g. "Evolutionary psychology of reciprocal altruism"). ... discospinster _talk 23:41, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

As it stands, you make a valid point. The article does indeed focus on Reciprocal altruism. Before the title is changed, I'd like to see if the article can incorporate more "selfish" group interaction concepts like coercion for a better overview of this topic. Thanks for the observation. Psyc452-reciprocity (talk) 23:52, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Manipulation

Since there are no cited sources in this section right now, I taking the liberty of moving the Manipulation section here. I recognize the sandbox would be more appropriate, however for ease of access to novice wikipedia users, I'll keep it here for now.Psyc452-GGeorge (talk) 01:41, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

From Article

Manipulative strategies involve behavior of one of parties that is adapted to maximize its own immediate fitness.[citation needed] However, manipulative strategies can also involve acts that provide a benefit to the other party. The behavior of both parties does not need to be adapted to providing benefits to partner. Costs and benefits of interactions differ between partners so there is no alternation of assistance given and received, and cooperative actions likely to generate immediate net benefits rather than costs. Coercive tactics may be used by individuals in order to influence or manipulate others.[citation needed] Increases in fitness and the avoidance of interference of interests are two main motives for individuals engaging in manipulation, because those manipulated generally perform actions favoring these benefits. Individuals also may harass other members of a group until submission and assistance by them is achieved. In this way, "manipulative reciprocity" is achieved in that one individual acts altruistically for another, non-blood related individual, but it is important to note that this behavior is not out of true desire to help another but rather, it is the result of coercion.

Proposed Deletion WP:OR Content Fork of Reciprocal Altruism

The warning has been noted and diligent effort is being made to restructure the article and give more attention to all the forms of group interactions. Research on reciprocity and altruism is more prevalent, however there is published research on the other forms. This research is being gathered and incorporated into the article. The warning template will be removed once we feel that the article is up to Wikipedia standards. Any advice on how to avoid the deletion process is welcome.Psyc452-reciprocity (talk) 21:19, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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[[1]] An ongoing discussion of a recent collection of evolutionary psychology articles on wikipedia (including this one)