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December 2010

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Angela Slatter, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. ttonyb (talk) 05:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, instead of writing it yourself. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

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• CommentThe Australian SF community is a vibrant group of individuals, creating work that is both important and notable. The nature of the community is such that if the strictest interpretation of the Conflict of Interest guidelines were applied, there would probably be no one suitable to document these individuals. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 23:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Angela Slatter for deletion

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Thank you for this, I sometimes forget and have been going back in and doing this. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 05:47, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Australian SF writers and editors

If you'd like to work on some articles about notable Australian SF writers and editors, the following articles could use some work, and you're probably better placed than average to find sources for them: Cat Sparks, Stephen Dedman. Also Russell B. Farr, although you might not be well placed to work on that one yourself. If you've got some sources for that one send them my way and I'll tart it up to C-class for you. - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:13, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

• Comment I had aimed to work on updating a bunch of articles on Australian SF, also plug some gaps to do with upcoming writers who are starting to wield some clout. But, given the struggle to get Angela Slatter, a writer who has had two published collections, added to wikipedia, I'm somewhat disheartened. If Angela Slatter doesn't qualify, why should Cat Sparks? Cat has no publications at book length, and has only won Australian SF awards. I could find and add sources, but do not know why I should bother. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 02:23, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

• Well, on the basis of Cat's current article, you could well argue that she's not, which is why I was hoping you could improve it. But, arguing for the reverse, Cat's a multiple Aurealis winner - almost certainly a notable award - while as I understand it Angela's only been nominated? Correct me if I'm wrong. Cat's also able to (arguably) source her notability to significant discussion in reliable independent sources, such as interviews on sites such as Tabula Rasa and Ticonderoga Online. They're only arguably reliable sources though, and then only because they have a strong local reputation and clear editorial control. Typically blogs and zines won't be accepted by Wikipedia. Normally I'd say you could follow the example of Cat's article by slapping an interview up on Ticonderoga, but obviously Ticonderoga has published her so that's not going to be independent. The SMH piece is really the kind of thing you're looking for for Angela, but you'd need something more substantial so that it would classify as "significant discussion" - that is, something with enough detail to meaningfully inform an encyclopaedic article. I contribute to a lot of AfD debates, so I can assure you that the discussion there is not indicative of a bias against Australians - I've seen American authors with far more credits get deleted. - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

• Just to clarify, I'm not seeking to argue the merits of Cat's inclusion. I know she is worthy and notable, and should be here. There are a whole bunch of writers that should be here: I'd certainly like to see entries for all Ditmar and AA winners, and anyone who has racked up a handful of nominations. I am concerned that the Australian SF awards aren't given the recognition they deserve, hindering attempts to recognise the winners. The irony here is that I abhor having to use awards as a criteria as while I don't personally necessarily believe they are always the best measure of success, they seem to be what others want to see to justify notable. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 02:31, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

• Wikipedia's probably not the place to start that crusade, though. The place to start it is in the mainstream press. Once you have significant coverage in reliable sources, Wikipedia won't have an issue. - DustFormsWords (talk) 21:57, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not sure it's a crusade, I'm just looking to increase knowledge in something I have been interested in for almost 20 years. This isn't just about adding to wikipedia, I'm also working with the mainstream press where I can. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

• Didn't someone over here in Canberra publish a biographical-dictionary-style book on current Australian small-press SF a couple of years ago? Nicole Murphy, maybe? (I forget, but the CSFG would know.) That would be a great starting place for sourcing notability for a lot of editors, if not writers. - DustFormsWords (talk) 22:55, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

• Donna Maree Hanson, and it was a fine tome of small press, big press and other stuff, came out around 2005. I have a copy at home, so may look back over this when I'm back in the house, thanks for the idea. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 12:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Apparent COI

Please explain your involvement with the article on Russell B. Farr, and your continued editing (e.g. [1]) of articles on authors published by Ticonderoga Publications, in light of WP:COI and your apparent self-identification as Farr [2]. Thanks. EEng (talk) 20:17, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

ResponseI have made a statement on my user page, you may wish to refer to this first. I have spent a lot of time reading and studying WP:COI. As I have now voluntarility disclosed a COI, from here on in I'd like you and others to assume good faith. Nothing I have read on WP:COI explicitly prohibits me from editing articles published by Ticonderoga Publications, however it does recommend strongly that any editing I do be done with the strictest adherence to NPOV. I believe that I have done this. I have also not made any attempt to discourage other wikipedians from changing these articles, nor have I made a single reversion to any changes made. My involvement with these remains purely academic, and wherever possible I am suggesting changes to Russell B. Farr on that articles talk page. I thank you for your attention to my work, and welcome you to review all of my changes for NPOV, and apologies if you think I'm an asshat. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 01:16, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Wet Ink Short Story Prize

Hi, I recently knocked up a page for the Wet Ink Short Story Prize in my user space. I was wondering if you knew of any sources that may help stengthen the notability of the article. Thanks, Salavat (talk) 06:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

found a couple of links from writers sites but couldn't find anything about the winner - I'll keep looking. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 01:29, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the links, ill have a look at them and then i think ill take the page into the main space, so if you find any more sources the page will be located over at Wet Ink Short Story Prize. Thanks, Salavat (talk) 10:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

thanks

Hi Punkrocker - just wanted to say a quick thanks for your efforts on the Bloodsongs magazine entry deletion discussion. Dubbothedevo (talk) 13:32, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

No probs -- I haven't had as much time as I'd like to devote to editing on wikipedia of late, but do try to jump in when there's something I know a little about. I hope we can save this article, I'd hate to have had to resort to my old dead tree editions for nothing :) Punkrocker1991 (talk) 13:37, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Big Brother

Hi, Thanks for voting in favor of the deletion. Would you mind spread the word around? It's currently 7-3 to keep the article so we need some more votes. The other side seems to be very cocky. You might want to read some of the most resent discussions on the deletion pages about the verifiability of some of the source material being used in the article and possibly glance at the articles yourself. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Jschro (talk) 14:31, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure I can help much with spreading the word, I'm just a guy who edits some pages and don't really mingle wiith many other users. I'd put some faith into a closing admin working out that it really is a crystal ball situation and that when the time is right, the page can be re-created. Punkrocker1991 (talk) 14:57, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

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