QuanticNut

Detroit: Become Human

Please do not create a content dispute on this article right now. It is nominated for WP:GOODARTICLE status and cannot afford an WP:EDITWAR. If you feel so strongly about it, save it for later. Thanks. Cognissonance (talk) 06:19, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a platform for winning awards it's an information tool. I'm active on the Detroit Reddit and have dealt with many people from inside the studio including David cage and Williams. He's credited as a writer in the opening credits.

I agree there shouldn't be an edit war. So let's leave the correct information in place and stop vandalizing the article... QuanticNut (talk) 20:22, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is also a place of rules, which state that only lead writers should be listed. Adam Williams has officially been listed as having done "additional writing", which is not a synonym for "lead writer". Stop adding incorrect information. Cognissonance (talk) 23:26, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

I'm genuinely concerned about your behavior now. The link you sent me doesn't say anything about only listing lead writers. It contains two IF conditions which are not met in this case:

If a single person is credited as "scenario director" or "scenario writer", list that person; synonyms for this position include "lead writer"; If there is a person credited as "scenario concept writer" or "[original] concept", also list that person here;

Nobody is listed as either. Two people ARE listed as writers though: the two whose names should be in that box. Think through what you're saying. If it had to be a lead writer, David Cage wouldn't be credited either. The credits list no lead writer.

I truly don't get why you are so committed to this, especially when the case is so clear. 'Writers' box? Put the writers in it, no more than 3!

My passion comes from having met the dev team online and being part of the community. You just seem to be territorial about 'your' wikipedia page. QuanticNut (talk) 06:30, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

I was the original editor who added Williams, but when User:Wrath X reverted this based on the opening credits, it made all the sense in the world. The syntax guide allows only lead writers (or credits synonymous with "lead writer", since in Japanese video games they are credited as "scenario" writers). The opening credits state: "Written and directed by David Cage". You are adding information that Wrath X, Sebastian James and I oppose, and thus have no consensus in your favour. Cognissonance (talk) 07:01, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

I really am not trying to be confrontational, but have you read the guidelines you sent me? The 'syntax guide' does not 'only allow lead writers', it contains two positive IF clauses, neither of which are met in this case. UNLIKE the director guide, it doesn't rule any writers OUT of that box. That's unarguable.

With the greatest respect, the point you make about consensus cuts both ways. There is no consensus for removing him either, by definition. All that being said, in plain point of fact he is listed as a writer and did interviews all over the world sitting next to David Cage where they talked about how they wrote the game. I don't know what motivated Wrath X but it wasn't a straightforward interpretation of the rules.

There are many of us on the Detroit Reddit who would love to get more involved and help with the Detroit Wikipedia, which is the whole point of Wikipedia. When I suggested we actually do it I was told that often Wikipedia page holders can be hostile about letting new people make reasonable edits simply because they feel they 'own' certain pages... you say you want to end the dispute and edit war, but you keep reverting edits that reflect a very straightforward reality :)

I'd love to move on to making other reasonable edits on other Quantic pages. This conversation is what is making me a single-edit user. (QuanticNut (talk) 07:49, 21 July 2018 (UTC))

Quality articles (of which there are only a few thousand out of five million) are not edited by random people from a subreddit, they are written by experienced editors who respect the difference between a good and bad article. I do not own Detroit: Become Human, but I have written most of it and vetted all of it, in order to determine what edits are good and which aren't. After years of doing this, you come along to tell me how Wikipedia works? Cognissonance (talk) 08:26, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Well, if you think the fact that I am 'random people from a subreddit' whereas you are 'an experienced editor' means you get to decide who can and can't edit pages then, yes, somebody does need to tell you how wikipedia works... the whole idea is that anybody can add information so long as it meets guidelines and is correct.

You aren't even pretending the information doesn't meet the guidelines anymore, just trying to demean me because I am a member of a subreddit. Engage me on the substance. That's what wikipedia is for. Not for people to power-trip over how 'experienced' they are. (QuanticNut (talk) 08:32, 21 July 2018 (UTC))

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Cognissonance (talk) 00:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Detroit: Become Human, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Cognissonance (talk) 00:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

I'm familiar and dispute the reversion. The argument is over whether writers of a videogame should be listed in the writers field or... according to this user... not unless he feels like it? Guidelines are clear. QuanticNut (talk) 06:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Detroit: Become Human. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Cognissonance (talk) 06:49, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

First you told me to make the edit later so you could get an award.

Then you referenced me to the rules... which supported my argument.

Now I simply have to do what you say or you'll silence me? Nice :) Very Wikipedia! (QuanticNut (talk) 07:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC))

Please stop your disruptive editing.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Detroit: Become Human, you may be blocked from editing. Cognissonance (talk) 08:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Cognissonance (talk) 08:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Very scary icons!

Presumably you will now be blocked for reverting my edit three times? Or do the rules somehow not apply to you? :) (QuanticNut (talk) 08:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC))

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Detroit: Become Human. Cognissonance (talk) 00:08, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Good talk!

Thanks for being such a great example of Wikipedia's collaborative spirit.

I hope you're getting some kind of financial compensation for your time because you certainly can't behave like this out of commitment to the values of an open encyclopedia. (QuanticNut (talk) 21:03, 24 July 2018 (UTC))

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If you ever have any questions about Wikipedia or any article you edit in the future please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page and I will very happy to help you in your endeavors here at Wikipedia. Also Wikipedia:Teahouse is a great way to get some help if you have any questions about Wikipedia in general. You can ask questions there as well and experienced editors will help you as well. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 20:59, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks so much @Alucard 16:! Been looking for reading just like this. Makes a girl feel welcome (QuanticNut (talk) 21:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC))

Indenting

Hi, I noticed the thread concerning you at WP:ANI. I decided to post a comment to your talk page rather than to that thread as it is not pertinent, bu could you please fix your indenting? (See WP:INDENT) It's quite difficult to follow the discussion when it's not clear whether you're replying to someone or starting a new thread of commentary. Thanks. Blackmane (talk) 01:10, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this @Blackmane:!

One other point, if you want to ping someone, you also need to sign your post at the same time as your ping. If you place the ping, then come back in a second edit and sign again it doesn't work. The ping and the signature has to happen in the same edit. Blackmane (talk) 11:59, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Adam Williams

Hello, QuanticNut. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Adam Williams".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 12:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)