Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (February 13)

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Concern regarding Draft:Ron Daniels

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Your draft article, Draft:Ron Daniels

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ron Daniels (theatre) (November 2)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ron Daniels (theatre) has been accepted

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Managing a conflict of interest

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  Hello, RDEHAS. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Ron Daniels (director), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 12:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Theroadislong thank you so much for your comments. I just wanted to take the time to say that I considered Ron Daniels deserving of a wiki page after many years in the industry and having worked with some very established actors. Much like his contemporaries and colleagues such as Trever Nunn, I believed he needed a wiki page.
I can freely admit that I do not have any direct connections to Mr Daniels, have never worked with him or carry any of his interests. My education was in drama and Shakespeare, and the study of the works of directors like him, and I was surprised to see many of the directors at his level had pages and he didn't. I contacted Mr Daniels to get some information about his work in order to expand on the bio, but all other information provided has been from archives such as those publicly available on the RSC, ART and his agency's pages, along with reviews and news articles of his work. I am personally connected to a theatre producer that has worked with him, and who helped me expand on his page. No personal organisation have been linked.
I desperately wish to publish this page correctly and without any issues, so please advise if there is anything further I can do to comply with wiki standards.
Thank you very much. RDEHAS (talk) 21:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
"I contacted Mr Daniels to get some information about his work in order to expand on the bio" This means you have a VERY clear conflict of interest Wikipedia can use nothing you gained from this contact and you need to disclose your conflict of interest on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 21:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ok thank you for the advice. I will disclose this on my page. I will disclose that the information I gained from Mr Daniels was considering his move to and back from United States to confirm this timeline. Thank you. RDEHAS (talk) 21:28, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
You have clearly miss-understood how Wikipedia works we only report on what reliable independent sources have said, if it hasn't been published we do not use it. Theroadislong (talk) 21:32, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Director Jack Gelber

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In the article Ron Daniels (director) there are three references for Jack Gelber directing Indians. Nunn was the season's director.--AntientNestor (talk) 16:32, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I could add (but it's a bit cluttered already) this one: "White men and Indians". The Stage. 11 July 1968. p. 13.--AntientNestor (talk) 18:31, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for this, but Nunn may have been the artistic director at the time, but Gerber directed this production, as per the RSC official archives: https://collections.shakespeare.org.uk/search/rsc-performances/ind196807 RDEHAS (talk) 20:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
So why did you delete Gelber and change it [1] to Terry Hands?--AntientNestor (talk) 21:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ah yes sorry I got confused about what we were talking about. I changed that this afternoon coincidentally because I remembered that Gerber was fired apparently and Terry Hands took over, but while finding the source I realised that the RSC archives don't suggest such a story! Ironically this was the one credit I had major issues finding a source for. I believed it is now fixed? Thank you very much for your help. Very useful. RDEHAS (talk) 21:25, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Easily done, as I know all too well.
I was pleased to accept this draft article, BTW. It was surprising to find that Daniels was the only RSC director from the company's best years (quoting Michael Billington, Simon Trowbridge op cit, and many others) who didn't have a page.--AntientNestor (talk) 22:11, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Grateful to you for accepting it. Couldn't agree more, I was so surprised when I studied his work that he had no wiki, he worked so much with so many greats! Any and all help is appreciated. RDEHAS (talk) 22:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
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