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Speedy deletion nomination of Turning Point USA

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A tag has been placed on Turning Point USA requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Turning Point USA (October 11)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Turning Point USA (October 25)

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FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:22, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Turning Point USA (April 27)

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SwisterTwister talk 05:05, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Turning Point USA (May 20)

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Omni Flames ^{let's talk about it} 23:41, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Turning Point USA (July 8)

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Tseung Kwan O (talk) 22:02, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Turning Point USA has been accepted

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Daniel kenneth (talk) 06:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Requested move

Per your request I've moved your article to User:RSquier/Hypeline News in order to allow you to continue working on it. --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:52, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

June 2017

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Anti-fascism. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Acroterion (talk) 09:51, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of interest re Turning Point USA

Hello, RSquier. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the article Turning Point USA, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. Editing for the purpose of advertising or promotion is not permitted. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
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• disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID). Thank you. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 23:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

You need to respond to this. Doug Weller talk 13:39, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I apologize for taking so long to respond, as I only logon to Wikipedia/check it very rarely. I can see where it may appear as if I have a conflict of interest, however, the closest I would have is an interest in the organization. I do not work for TPUSA, I am not even an official member of my local chapter, although I do get emails about campus events. I do not believe there is a COI, and if you refer to the talk page of TPUSA, you can see that I essentially retracted the proposition to remove the section (I proposed it in a well meaning way, however, upon further investigation, I was glad I just proposed it, and never deleted it myself).RSquier (talk) 02:54, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Edit: I did use to write articles for the then Hypeline News (now turning point news), however, I did this voluntarily, and I eventually left the writing team. This was before they wrote almost all politically, and reported more on National news. RSquier (talk) 02:57, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

It's a good idea to avoid articles about subjects with which you have off-wiki connections. Even if you personally feel you can edit Turning Point USA without bias, you discredit the article to some extent by your participation--don't you think readers would be concerned to discover that the article was originally created and largely written by someone who used to write articles for the organization's newsletter? As the COI guidelines suggest, you're welcome to continue contributing at the talk page and your input will be welcomed. Btw I hope this isn't you. Please review WP:SOCK and WP:MEAT if you're unfamiliar with them. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

No, that was not me. I see how users may take issue with me being a writer for the then Hypeline News, as well as being the creator for the page. I actually started the page as I saw TPUSA as a rising organization, and now the page is probably only about 20% alike to the original one I wrote, which is actually a great thing. Most edits that I have written since the 6 months after the page was published were minor (changing dead links to live ones that state similar facts, adding citations, etc. The main reason why this COI investigation surfaced was actually because I wrote in the talk page to ask if a certain section should be omitted, and I did not just delete it. I thought it was unreliable because there was only one article that stated anything substantial tat I could find, until I realized some of them were subscription only ones where I could not read the full story. I will stick to the talk page before any major edits (adding or deleting information). Do I need to take to the talk page before adding sources to already written material? RSquier (talk) 20:53, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

That would be best, thanks. And I do appreciate your civility and willingness to discuss. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@RSquier: you have been given incorrect information about WP:COI. WP:EXTERNALREL says "How close the relationship needs to be before it becomes a concern on Wikipedia is governed by common sense (empl. mine)." If you are no longer a volunteer writer at Turning Point, and you have no connections to employees there, then you no longer have a relationship. No relationship = no COI. That's the "common sense" part of the policy. This means that you are able to edit the Turning Point article just like any other editor without a scarlet letter on your chest.

Are you going to create another article? I'd like to suggest that you consider nominating it for DYK. Check this out "DYK For Newbies." If you have any questions you can get answers here.– Lionel^(talk) 08:55, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

This is not a mainstream interpretation of WP:COI, and certainly not how most folks apply it at WP:COIN. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 05:24, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

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@RSquier: you can ignore those links User:Ian.thomson/ChristianityAndNPOV and Wikipedia:ABIAS that Tgeorgescu dropped on your talkpage. You see, contrary to the not-so-accurate section header those are not policies and guidelines. Those are essays. Essays are not worth the paper they're written on. See what I did there lol. This is the essay that you need to read: Wikipedia:Don't cite essays or proposals as if they were policy haha. – Lionel^(talk) 09:07, 22 April 2018 (UTC)