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Hey! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm curious why you redirected Standard (Indian automobile) (a full article) into Standard Motor Products of India without discussing it first. It was very bold. Why did you choose to do that over merging/moving the page? czar · · 05:21, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm Mrt3366. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Standard (Indian automobile) because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 11:59, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Standard (Indian automobile) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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Standard Motor Products of India

'’’Standard Motor Products of India’’’ was the name of the company that manufactured the Standard Cars in India under license from Standard Motors UK. The page title “Standard (Indian automobile)” seems to be not in tune with the Wikipedia pages concerning the Automobile Manufacturers and their Brand.

For Ex: “Ford Motor Company” has the details of the company and then a list of Cars manufactured by them. Ford’s European operations were under “Ford of Europe” page.The Ford EU company, tough fully owned subsidiary, was operating as a separate entity in a different continent/location. Also the cars made and sold were different in most cases from Detroit. In this case, the “Standard Motor Products of India” is the name of the Indian company whose equity was not fully owned by the “Standard Motors UK”, but was into a partnership between an Indian Investor and the British Counterpart. This Indian company also survived long until 1990’s and was liquidated sometime in 2006, while the British company (the original) got absorbed into British Leyland was back in 60’s or early 70’s. So forth, the page title “Standard (Indian automobile)” sounds like “Ford (European automobile)” which does not meet as per Wikipedia page title standards. This was the reason behind shifting the contents into the newly created “Standard Motor Products of India” page. Also the text and tone of the original “Standard (Indian automobile)” has to be toned down as the page itself seems to be lifted off from some much opinioned article.

So I feel it is logical to merge with the original edit history of the “Standard (Indian automobile)” page into ‘’’Standard Motor Products of India’’’ rather than having a page title with a rather insipid title. Request your help in improving that page and I hope my explanation helps you understand the reasons for that page change edit. Please leave a message in this page in case of any queries and clarifications. And sorry for the trouble.--Race27 (talk) 09:18, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't know about this history, so I'll stay neutral for now, but you should move your comment to Standard's current talk page if you want it taken into consideration. czar · · 16:36, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Czar, Thanks for you reply. I have posted the same explanation in the Talk:Standard (Indian automobile) page.--Race27 (talk) 16:49, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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I've removed the unnecessary links and first names from 1997 Hungarian Grand Prix. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 10:21, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

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