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Real (Br money)

Hi RafaAzevedo

About your revert on Brazilian Real. Yes I do recognize that in its origin, the name was due it was being issued by the King. But the article it's not just about the original currency, but also about the current currency of Brazil. And the meaning of "real" was used, not only the "royal"meaning, and it had relevancy. The Brazilian real substituted the URV - Unidade Real de valor. That means "real value unity", not "royal value unity". When the BRL came to be the new currency of Brazil, the name "Real" not only had historical reasons, but it implied that this new currency has a "real" value, as opposed to the old one, the "cruzeiro real", whose value was destroyed by inflation - BTW, cruzeiro real also had "real" on it's name, and you can't argue that this cruzeiro was issued by the King :). So, yes, the second meaning of the word "real" is relevant. But you can't agree with me, then I propose a compromise: the translation is removed altogether, sinse it's a name, and it can be argued that translating names is not necessary. cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.122.48 (talk) 14:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

No, I can't find a precise ref. right now - that would involve a logistics that I can't afford at the moment (as i am about 10000 km away from my books and from BR :(). I can offer some evidence: see http://www.allbusiness.com/public-administration/national-security-international/605199-1.html#, for instance: "On July 1, 1996, the Plano Real (Real Plan), Brazil's most watched, ongoing national event, turned two years old." The Plano Real was the name of the set of economic measures that implemented the BRL. It's meaing was not "The royal Plan", but "The Real Plan", as this site (correctly) translated. That meaning extend to the currency, off course. But because I can't go out and find more evidence right now (for lack of time and access to resources) doesn't mean that it does not exist, or that it's original research to translate Real as "real". I think that removing the translations altogether is better than just partially translating, at least until a better ref can be found, though. But of you can't agree even with that, well, "paciência". I won't go on a edit war, so do as you please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.122.48 (talk) 15:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Eric Bloodaxe's date of birth

I have noticed your alteration to the estimated date of birth of Eric Bloodaxe, and have written a comment about it on the Eric Bloodaxe discussion page. You may like to read my comment. Do you have any clear information on the question? JamesBWatson (talk) 17:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC)