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I was asked to re-write the Wikipedia entry on Max Fleischer by McFarland Books, when my book, THE ART AND INVENTIONS OF MAX FLEISCHER: AMERICAN ANIMATION PIONEER was to be released in 2017. A considerable amount of time was spent rewriting a confused and amateurish entry done by unqualified writers. Since my submission, I have noticed inaccurate alterations to my text. One of them is the reference to Max Fleischer being Polish and this being confirmed in my book. This is false, and the footnote to page 7 clearly states that he was born when Krakow was in Austria. Census and Immigration records confirm this as the country of origin, and the family also confirms this. Having done the research on the political history of the Austria-Hungarian Empire and Poland, , the time line is correct, and a phase has been added that has remained for the last five years that explains that Krakow was in "then" Austria. Again, my book does not state that he was Polish. And the explanation of Krakow being in Austria at the time of Fleischer's birth contradicts and confuses and other statement liking him to Poland, which did not come into being until after World War I. By this time, Max was an adult and beginning his animation career in New York.

The reference to the article FINDING KO-KO is one I wrote many years ago when I compiled a collection of the OUT OF THE INKWELL films for Home Video. And the URL link is to my website. When you go there you will clearly see my name on that article. So in the interest of Copyright Violation we have none unless I register a complaint in that regard. There is no Copyright Violation in my use of my own material since I AM THE SOURCE.

With further reference to Copyright Infringements, I noticed additional text has been added that is taken from my book, which diminishes its value. Has the person making these alterations been contacted?

Our history on this subject goes back to 2018. It is unfortunate that there is no realization that I am the authoritative source on this entry and the vast majority of the content comes from me. Because Wikipedia is such a popular and easy access research source, I am sure that you want your entries to be as factual and complete as possible. While there are inconsistencies with some of your other entries, every effort has been made to make the Max Fleischer and associated links as accurate and factual as possible after decades of confused information and fabrications.

Again, I am recognized as the leading authority on this subject. Accordingly there should be no issues about my entries or attempts to correct my own text entries after it has been altered by intrusion on the part of an unqualified party. This said, I would urge you to pay closer attention to the content and others who insist upon editing this content without authorization. That said, I do not believe I need instruction on editing on Wikipedia. RayPointer (talk) 11:29, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hi. In relation to your previous edit, Max Fleischer was born to a father from Dąbrowa Tarnowska (Poland) who lived sometime in Vienna I believe and to a Polish Jewish mother in Kraków, Poland, what was then multicultural Galicia. It is true that his decent "might" be Austrian, however, that would not make him Austrian. Someone Austrian-American would have to been born in Austria proper (i.e Austrian part of Austria-Hungary and not Galicia which was Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria). It is a difficult topic, and there are surely database sources claiming both, but in these situations you have to look at the details. The book by Ray Pointer "The Art and Inventions of Max Fleischer: American Animation Pioneer", states "Polish-American" nationality. Moreover his mother's surname was Palasz. Not very Austrian is it? Best regards. Oliszydlowski, 00:04, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Page 7 of THE ART AND INVENTIONS OF MAX FLEISCHER: AMERICAN ANIMATION PIONEER clearly explains the political issue of the placement of Krakow in 1883 as being in THEN Austria-Hungary. It does NOT say Poland. I should know, I wrote it and did the research. The Fleischers always claimed to be from Austria. They originally spoke German, not Polish. The immigration and Census records confirm their national origin as Austria. It might be good to know what is referenced in the footnote to avoid confusion, and most of all know who you are addressing. RayPointer (talk) 11:54, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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My name is not Oli, so the message you left for me is probably intended for someone else. PS. I'd recommend posting your analysis on the talk of target article, and editing it directly. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 19:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

No worries, mistakes happen, and MediaWiki software could be better - but it is worth remembering that Wikipedia operates on a shoe-string budget, particularly compared to giants like Facebook and such, who have budgets tens of thousands times bigger, while having roughly the same popularity :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:32, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Well, Amazon spent several billion dollars on just advertising last year or so. WMF budget is around ~50 millions. My point is that most major companies have hundreds or thousands of people working full time on their software, testing, doing focus groups, etc. Wiki software has maybe several people working on it, plus a bunch of volunteers. Further, Amazon doesn't have to ask the community about stuff. WMF does, and a lot of nice ideas were torpedoed because some fraction of community vehemently objected. There is sadly a significant, or at least, vocal, group of wiki editors/volunteers whose motto is 'Wikipedia is not Facebook/social site' and hate any attempts to make the user interface look newer/friendlier because 'pretty things are for the kids'. I am exaggerating a bit, but do you know how much hate and obstruction the introduction of the visual editor has encountered? I learned just a few days ago that the WP:THANKS extension had to be nerfed, because it had too many 'cool' features that said group thought were too social networky... Anyway. My point is that Wiki is a very different and pretty unique type of a site, and sadly, it means our software is pretty crappy, because we have super tiny budget, and an inefficient model (getting consensus from the community sounds fine, but it doesn't really work that well in practice, IMHO). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 18:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Well, consider the second factory: your website has to make you, the boss, happy. Wikipedia software, before it is released, has to be approved by hundreds of community members. Think how difficult it is to please such a big committee. I am not there but I believe the relevant discussions are always taking place at [1]. Might be a good place to post your views of the software, etc. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 23:34, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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I would like to communicate with a live person within Wikipedia regarding the accusations of my making disruptive edits on my own text on the Max Fleischer entry. I am the major information source, as my book is cited in the footnotes. In 2017, at the direction of my publisher, McFarland Books, I was asked to correct the previous entry that was amateurishly written without accuracy or professional writing skill. The body of the current text was written by me and is based on the text from my book. It has remained for the most part on Wikipedia for the past five years. Periodically certain erroneous statements are inserted into the text, contradicting the footnotes. Additional inserts irrelevant to the informational flow have been included by some outside party. I have recently corrected those areas.

There seems to be a robot interacting on this entry since it does not realize that I am the author. It has threatened me with accusations of Copyright Violations, and termination of my account for using my own material. I am confused as to how using my own material violates my Copyright. I am also puzzled by the accusation of vandalism when I am correcting what was written under accurate research. The question is whether the same actions including the accusation of vandalism are taken with those who are making the alterations to a text that is already correct.

If anyone is reading this, I would greatly appreciate a response on these matters.

Very sincerely yours,

Ray Pointer RayPointer (talk) 14:36, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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The original reference to THE GALE STORM SHOW being on CBS is incorrect. It aired on ABC. I am old enough to have seen it. It was replaced in the fall of 1960 by THE FLINTSTONES. Therefore this minor correct needs to be accepted. RayPointer (talk) 11:58, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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