User talk:Rcrandallant/Flint

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Thanks in advance Rcrandallant (talk) 15:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

What is your question? --Orange Mike | Talk 15:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Does the following constitute notability?

• An entire Chapter of a book about historical events in an area, focusing on the subject of the article IE(Flint)
• Magazine Articles about the subject of the wikipedia article
• Subject of article publishes materials of both historical and scientific importance through notable publishers
• Subject of article is frequently helping historical societies like museums identify their artifacts
• Several Historical societies and preservations / restorations were Directed by the subject of article while serving as president, for several years.

Does this sound notable at all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcrandallant (talk • contribs) 15:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Forgot to sign Rcrandallant (talk) 15:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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We'd need more specifics.

• What is the book? By whom was it published? What's the title of the book, the chapter? Is the chapter substantially about the subject because of what he's done of note, or is he sort of incidentally the focus of the chapter? Is this the only book where he has ever been mentioned in depth?
• Do they constitute substantial coverage in reliable sources, not just passing mentions or pieces in blogs and the like?
• Nope.
• Nope
• Nope. For all three of these, please remember, notability is not "contagious" - you do not "catch" notability by being associated with a notable subject. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

My Response below

Rcrandallant (talk) 15:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC) ==================================================================

• For the magazines, I listed what ones were / will be cited from;
• The book is listed below, and the Chapter, (pages 14-29) is named Charles L. Flint, and is discreetly about him

Rcrandallant (talk) 15:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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• ISBN: 0-96586884-7-8
• Title: Disappearing into North Adams
• Author: Joe Manning
• Foreword by Steve Green
• Publisher: Flatiron Press
• Publisher Location: Florence, MA
• Published: 2001
• Library of Congress #: 00-192432

Rcrandallant (talk) 15:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

A very small publisher; "a wonderful, personality-filled account of a period of change in a small New England mill town" sez one review. Nope, sounds like it's a chapter about an interesting personality in a small town, not constituting evidence of notability. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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What did some of the other reviews say, do you have a link? I am curious what the majority of opinions were.

Rcrandallant (talk) 19:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Are the following magazines notable?

• Architectural Digest (2 articles)
• Country Living (2 articles)
• Venture (1 article)
• New Yorker, the (1 article)
• Collector Investor, the (1 article)
• South Advocate, the (4 articles)
• Boston Globe, the (1 article)
• Berkshire Eagle, the (at least 1 article so far)
• Decorator, the (1 article)

Rcrandallant (talk) 15:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

A publication can be notable without being a reliable source. More important, somebody can be mentioned in a reliable source without that mention constituting significant coverage, or have an article in a notable publication without that article making them notable in any way (particularly the fate of non-notable writers such as myself. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

This is why I keep hounding on the proper use of citation format as described in WP:CITE: if we've got a properly formatted citation, we will know something about the content of the article and whether it is relevant to this discussion. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)