Reddouble

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Thank you bot, but I literally am doing what you're saying. Reddouble (talk) 21:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

No, you're writing screeds and calling people names. We expect reliable sources, not rants. Acroterion (talk) 21:50, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh, you're not a bot. Also, I didn't call anyone any names. I just want to correct a mistake that is literallu calling people names. Ironic lmao Reddouble (talk) 22:10, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

No, I'm not, and you're expected to confine talkpage posts to sourced, actionable suggestions for article improvement. Reliable sources are the local currency, not contemptuous I-don't-like-it-so-I'm-going-to-complain-loudly-on-the-talkpage. That includes your last post on that talkpage. You may be blocked from editing if you continue to be disruptive. Acroterion (talk) 22:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

article has been rewritten by misandrists

MGTOW is in fact synonymous with men who've chosen to remain unpartnered, that's exactly how the article originally defined the term, because that is the original meaning of the term. It meant exactly what it says it meant. It was nothing but voluntary celibacy.

Now they say, no it doesn't mean that because "read the article". The problem is that the article has been rewritten to mean what the misandrists want it to mean by using a bunch of sources written by misandrists who are offended that men don't like them, and bigotedly ascribe voluntary celibacy to bigotry.

Basically it's become like saying the Bible is true because the Bible says that the Bible is true.

So there are sources out there which support the original definition, but you probably won't be allowed to add those sources because the misandrists want to perpetuate the misandry.

So before you make any edits, even on the article talk page, collect "reliable sources" that support the original non-misandrist definition.

The problem is that the MGTOWs MGTOWed, and didn't write about it, while the misandrists have been much more prolific.

The current misandrists camping on the article won't even tolerate any mention of the fact that the movement of voluntary celibacy was not founded in bigotry.

You will need to find other editors who agree with you to improve the article. Several other people have made attempts, but usually just one at a time, so the misandrists reverted them, claiming to have consensus.

It will take a coordinated effort with other editors to demonstrate consensus in addition to whatever reliable sources you may find. GalantFan (talk) 07:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

And take care not to edit while in a bad mood or they will lock you out for that too. GalantFan (talk) 07:28, 27 October 2024 (UTC)