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Capitalisation of ranks

Researcher! Great work on those ace articles (in both senses). Can I ask that you have a look at WP:JOBTITLES, which explains the Wikipedia position on capitalisation (or not) of ranks. Basically, if it's part of a name ("Squadron Leader Robert Tuck") it gets caps - if not ("promoted to squadron leader") it doesn't. Thanks for listening. Shem (talk) 18:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Karl-Heinz Meltzer

Researcher, I hope you find my edits to Karl-Heinz Meltzer useful. I think you're making a really great job of your articles (if you want to see how bad my first edits were, you can always look in my "contributions!) I'm curious about Karl-Heinz's first name - is it an alternative spelling, or do we need to move the article to Karlheinz Meltzer? I can always create a redirect there if you think that would be useful. Let me know here - I'm watching your talkpage. Yours, Shem (talk) 14:39, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Shem, it is appreciated. Meltzer's official records show him as Karlheinz however his contemporaries in writing about him posthumously and most published works show him as Karl-Heinz - the more usual presentation of the name. I suspect its best to leave it as it is and just make reference to the alternative but am more than happy for you to amend as you see fit. I've done work on some RAF fighter aces and associated flying bods where major sources were missing, I'm just doing some RN submarine commanders now. I could do with adding some proper references to the article on Roald Dahl but it's locked to me, do you know how I could be granted access please ? I only want to add some London Gazette refs. It would be useful to discover how to add photos as well, can you point me to a tutorial please ? R44Researcher1944 (talk) 14:51, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

It's a pleasure - and thank you for your friendly reply. In no particular order:

• We can leave the article at Karl-Heinz Meltzer; I'll put a redirect in at Karlheinz Meltzer.
• Do you want to upload photos? (Help:Files) Or add photos that already exist on Wikipedia into an article? (Wikipedia:Picture tutorial). A warning about uploading images - many images are covered by copyright, and Wikipedia is serious about it. If you don't get the copyright information right, and if it's not in the public domain, your image will get deleted - which is a waste of time, and very frustrating. Show me which images you were thinking of, and I can have a quick look.
• Roald Dahl is semi-protected due to a history of vandalism - see WP:SEMI-PRO. I would have thought that you would be auto-confirmed by now (see WP:AUTOCONFIRM) but you can always ask here.
• I've had a go at formatting the references at Karl-Heinz Meltzer properly. It might be worth you having a look at the formatting there, since if nothing else it will save me a lot of time if you get it right first time - but also have a go at using this: Tool for creating reference markup from Google Books - it makes life very much easier and quicker when referencing.

I hope that lot helps. Shem (talk) 15:40, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

And I suppose it's worth noting Template:London Gazette if you're going to be using the London Gazette as a reference a lot. It does the formatting for you - so much easier once you've got your head round it. Shem (talk) 15:42, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again Shem, I shall go read ! Researcher1944 (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2015 (UTC) I just noticed the change of book on Meltzer's bibliography, Fellgiebel's Ritterkreuztrager book is not the same book which I had cited. He is the author of several in a series and this one now listed is for a more senior award which Meltzer did not receive. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 16:07, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Shem, I just tried twice using the London Gazette template format offered in the Wiki section you mention, I used this one "No. 33000". The London Gazette. 9 December 1924. and it looks perfect on the page of my last "contribution" but does not work. I am confused because I copied it exactly. Can you advise where I'm going wrong please, I'd like to get it right. Thanks. Researcher1944 (talk) 16:57, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry - I got a bit lost with the references. I also meant to mention the Fellgiebel book at the comment above to check it was the right one, but forgot. I'll put it right. Your use of the London Gazette template here on your talk page works perfectly. I've looked at Charles Piers Egerton Hall and the issue is that the Gazette you are trying to link to is a supplement. The correct markup would be {{London Gazette |issue=36544 | supp=yes |date=2 June 1944 |startpage=2619|endpage=2620 }} (which gives "No. 36544". The London Gazette (). 2 June 1944.). I had to look at template:London Gazette to work that out! I hope that helps. Shem (talk) 17:10, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok - I've remembered the issue with Fellgiebel - you cited "Fellgiebel 2000" in the footnotes, but the bibliography didn't contain any works by him. I made an assumption - which I had meant to check. Which book was it you were citing? Shem (talk) 17:13, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Shem, I got it, tried it, its working perfect, I know what I did wrong. I'll dig out the Fellgiebel ref, no worries. Thanks for your help, I'm pleased that I learned to use the London Gazette reference tool. R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 17:28, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Alan Burgess

R44, when you're searching around for an article that needs some work, please cast an eye over Alan Burgess - it could use a loving touch. Shem (talk) 19:18, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

I'll be in there today Shem, curiously I'm working on a biog of R.Anthony Bethell one of the Great Escapers who got out and fortunately was not shot when the 50 were murdered. I will get Alan Burgess biog filled out properly, thanks. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 08:35, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, R44. I can help with the formatting, structure and so on, but when it comes to the actual content, this isn't my area of expertise at all. Shem (talk) 11:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Hope I sorted that, I dropped a new article in the wrong place. Please can you have a look in my Sandbox. thanksResearcher1944 (talk) 12:43, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Its driving me crazy, I'm using the TEMPLATE format for London Gazette entries, they look perfect and the first one of the four works perfectly but the last 3 gazette entries don't work. I've reset them multiple times and used different template formats but I cant make them work. I'd be grateful for advice. thanks R44Researcher1944 (talk) 13:17, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Either you've fixed them, or there was nothing wrong! They work just fine. When it comes to creating a new article, let me create it for you - I don't need to submit it for review or have my new pages patrolled. Let me know when you're happy with it. I'll make a few edits when I see you've stopped editing - we don't want any edit conflicts. Shem (talk) 15:28, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

...But at Roald Dahl the issue is that you need to leave "| supp=" with nothing at all - anything after that "=" sign will point it to a supplement rather than the actual Gazette. You can leave "| supp=" out altogether in these cases. Shem (talk) 15:32, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Shem, that is great. I'll be doing the "Great Escapers" who are not covered as yet. I am finished on Bethell now, I went back about 20 times until I got the links working and I'm still uncertain on how I did it..... but the important thing is that I got it right in the endResearcher1944 (talk) 15:35, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

I admire your persistence. I think the important thing about templates like Template:London Gazette is that they take a little bit of getting used to, but once you've cracked it (and it sounds like you have) then it is both easy to do and makes a better product. If you've finished with Bethell I'll do some copyedit on it and then move it into the article space. If you've got a moment, can you have a look at your sandbox and tell me how he should be introduced. There are rules on it at MOS:BIO. I think I've got it right, but I'd value your opinion. Shem (talk) 15:56, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

And just before I move your new article into article space, can you let me know what you think his name was, in common use? His article should sit at the whatever name he was known by and is referred to - so I've basically got a choice of Richard Bethhell (Royal Air Force officer), Tony Bethell, R Anthony Bethell, or perhaps Anthony Bethell. I can make redirects from any you think need them, and I'll link him from Richard Bethell in any case. Shem (talk) 16:48, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

You are a Gent. Please make him Tony Bethell which is how he was known during wartime and to his family. Please can you make "stubs" (is that the right word) for the RAF and RCAF chaps listed here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Allied_airmen_from_the_Great_Escape

(also need one for Flight Lieutenant James Keddie DFM who was another escaper who was caught in the tunnel) and I'll do my thing. thanks R44Researcher1944 (talk) 17:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

It's better you create them in your own space before I move them into article space. You can create them at User:Researcher1944/James Keddie, User:Researcher1944/John Doe, User:Researcher1944/Workbox1 or anything else you want to call them. Just click on the red link here and create away. Of course, you can create any page you like provided it starts with "User:Researcher1944/" - just put it in the searchbox, hit enter, and hit the link after "You may create the page ...". Shem (talk) 17:58, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

ALAN BURGESS - this case is interesting Shem, I have a copy of the official RAF document from the National Archives which lists all RAF prisoners of war up till end March 1945 and there are 3 men named Burgess but none of them have an initial A for Alan, there are 2 officers and a flight sergeant but none look likely. Very strangeResearcher1944 (talk) 07:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I assumed that he had been at Stalag Luft III, but I've changed the article to remove that assumption. I guess he just wrote the book - he was a writer after all! Shem (talk) 08:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

That's odd, my Bethell article has disappeared from "My Contributions" folder ? R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 10:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I suppose that's because I cut the text from your sandbox and pasted into a new article at Tony Bethell - which you've never edited. Perhaps it's time to start using your watchlist. Go to Tony Bethell, hit the "watch" tab at the top, and any edits to it will appear when you go to the "watchlist" link at the top right of any page. That way you can tell if anybody has, for example, vandalised the article, and you can quality control any additions. If you open all the pages you've contributed to and hit "watch" on them as well, you'll have a complete view of all the articles you've worked on here. Shem (talk) 15:23, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Walenn

And I've cut your Walen proto-article into User:Researcher1944/Workbox1 where it's safe. You previously used your own Sandbox (User:Researcher1944/sandbox) for Bethell. The Wikipedia Sandbox is open to everybody - not a great place to build a new article! Some anon IP had deleted everything and added some obscenity. I recovered it from the history. Shem (talk) 15:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

BRILLIANT, thanks Shem, I was getting myself a coffee and came back to find what the nutter had done. Some people have no brain and too much time. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 15:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

It's a pleasure! Must have been quite a shock when you saw it. I had a moment myself... Shem (talk) 15:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

You were right on the London Gazette template, all of the ref's I've done on the WALENN article work, I'm delighted with that. It looks as if that one is about done, where should I drop it for it to be reviewed and accepted or declined ? thanks for your patience, I am learning the form here, just a bit slower than I'd have liked. R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 09:40, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

R44, I think you're picking it up pretty quick. There's a lot to pick up, and you're already creating quality articles. That took me months (years ago - and it's become harder since then).

We have a choice for Walenn:

• You can submit it for review (which relies on the perhaps capricious view of a random editor to accept its notability); or
• You can create the article, either by clicking on Gilbert Walenn and cut-and-pasting the content of User:Researcher1944/Workbox1 into it, or by hitting the "move" tab at User:Researcher1944/Workbox1 and moving it to Gilbert Walenn (this will attract the attention of the new pge patrollers, but I can do that for you); or
• I can create it, as I did for Tony Bethell.

In any case, before we do anything, we need to work out what the article title should be. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) says Most biographical articles have titles in the form <First name> <Last name>', but later goes on to say "The name used most often to refer to a person in reliable sources is generally the one that should be used as the article title, even if it is not their "real" name". So Gilbert Walenn or Tim Walenn? Let me know what you want to do. Shem (talk) 10:09, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Ah! I see you already moved it to Gilbert william walenn. I'll sort out the caps. Shem (talk) 10:16, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Shem, does that now exist in its own right, so I can clear my Workbox1 and put another article together. I did one on Henry Birkland but I cant put a title line in and Wikipedia didn't give him a capital B for his surname. Can you help please. The article title should be Henry Birkland. I'm not sure about my locating the "other victims" table, can you put it right for me please. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 13:33, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

That does now exist in its own right (you can clear your workbox), as does Henry birkland, which I have moved to Henry Birkland. Note that the first capital (H in this case) is imposed by Wikipedia, but that any subsequent ones must be inserted by you. All I did was to use the "move" tab to move the article title from the from with the lower case B to the form with the upper case B. Can you be more explicit about your "other victims" table? Where is it now, and what do you want to do with it? Shem (talk) 14:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

And do you want to bring Draft:Alfried Dettke into article space? It will need a little more work first, but nothing you can't do. If I can suggest one obvious improvement to your editing, please leave out the space between the text and the "<ref> markup? In fact, if you go to an article history and look at the detail of my edits (hit the "history" tab, chose on of my edit "diffs" and hit "Compare selected revisions") you will be able to see the sort of stuff I've been correcting. There isn't much to worry about, but it will save me time, if nothing else! Thanks. Shem (talk) 14:52, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Shem I'll do that. I have another article in prep and I'll ensure that those spaces are removed. Yes I shall dig out some more refs on Dettke, it was a really poor first attempt and I didn't know the ropes at all. I have learned some since them and I'll try again. Your advice is appreciated. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 16:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

R44, at your Jimmy Keddie article, I've changed the ISBN number for Tavender's The Distinguished Flying Medal, a record of courage. The one you gave failed the checksum (which is why it brought up a red error). But my one is for the 1990 print, not the 1992. Can you check your source for ISBN & date? Thanks Shem (talk) 16:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Will do Shem ! Can I bring the photo of Tim Walenn which is at http://theescapeline.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/the-great-escape-fact-fiction-part-two.html into my article on him ? I have completed Keddie and hopefully not left those gaps by the < ref > which I'd been doing before.thanks R44Researcher1944 (talk) 12:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

2nd message, but it is linked to the one above, Sorry to bother you. I'd like to grab a copy of the picture of BRETTELL from here, can I do this Shem ? http://www.classiccar4you.com/classic-cars-gallery/?album=2&gallery=622&pid=1130 thanks R44Researcher1944 (talk) 12:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

In principle that would be great. The key is to make sure that you have nailed any copyright issues. Who took the photo, and when? If you can't answer that question, don't go any further. The easiest way to find out the copyright info is from a book with the photo in - they will have to have a copyright attribution. If you can establish that it is in the public domain in copyright terms (ie the copyright has expired or been surrendered, not "I found it on the internet"), then we can use it. If the photographer died in 1945 or before, we have a good chance. Shem (talk) 12:56, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

You need it after creating Gordon Brettell. Excellent work. I hope you'll submit it for GA review. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:03, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks, I'm trying to do the series on all of the Great Escapers. thanks R44Researcher1944 (talk) 13:07, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung, I'm confused by being told that my latest article, regarding a decorated RAF fighter pilot and DOUBLE fighter ace, is listed for deletion. Nicholas Gresham Cooke. I thought being on a Double ace and a decent quality article, that it would be OK. Is it because its British and not US ?? many thanks R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 21:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Gordon Brettell

Dear R44 - a cup of tea! You've arrived ...! Thoroughly well earned too, if I may say so.

There are a few more things you can do which until now I've been covering for you. In no particular order:

• Run the finished article through DAB solver (should be more or less self evident - just copy the article name into the box and hit enter, then click on the red stuff and choose...) This will remove links to disambiguation pages. Nobody wants to go to Distinguished Flying Cross when they should have gone to Distinguished Flying Cross (United Kingdom). DAB solver does all the hard work for you.
• Tag the talk page with the associated projects. At first, just cut-and-paste the tags from one talk page to another (remembering to change the name hidden within). So, if you go to Talk:Gordon Brettell, hit edit and copy the text from the edit box, you can cut it into the next article. Obviously you need to apply some thought if your subject changes ...
• Add a link at the appropriate disambiguation page for the name - so, for Brettell, go to Brettell and add him to the list (I've already done this, but you get the idea). Also add "{{other people2|Brettell}}" at the top of the article page. Sometimes the disambiguation page is harder to find - List of people with surname Smith, Hall (surname), etc. Template:Other people gives some more guidance on how to use the template.
• Add a wikilink at Stalag Luft III murders - for example, see this diff of mine

I only mention this because I haven't got time to keep up with your prodigious output! Shem (talk) 14:04, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again Shem, I shall have a read and try those things, I'm a bit of a "back of the class boy" when it comes to IT stuff but I'm learning as quickly as I can because I don't want to create too much of a nuisance. I shall actually be slowing down a little anytime now because I'm back to work tomorrow. Have all of the articles "gone live" now ? If they have I'll dump my working back-ups. It seems I've learned the London Gazette thingy, many thanks R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 14:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, you're doing much better than I ever did! They are all live. The only one I haven't checked over is Jimmy Keddie. If your working back up is the one with Gordon Brettell in it, that can go. A pleasure to help. Shem (talk) 15:08, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

The DAB solver bombed out on me due to a session data problem ?? all Hungarian to me ! Work calls. Thanks R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 09:53, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Shem, I dropped another article into the system Michael James Casey", I have got the London Gazette thing working well now and I've hidden the "naked URLs" as requested, not sure I have got this 100% right but I note that it is working. I am struggling with the DAB solver though, I have tried article name, URL, etc, etc and it either says it cant find it or it bombs out with a "session data problem". Sorry to be slow picking that up. thanks R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 08:15, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

And following on from the above, I put in the link you suggested in the OTHER VICTIMS section and also 2 others I'd noted on Wikipedia, should some of these be combined ? Thanks R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 08:29, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't think the additional two links are of any real value, and I've removed them where I've edited. I would note that you can't reference using Wikipedia (or any of the mirrors of Wikipedia that are out there) - see WP:CIRCULAR. DAB solver is working fine for me (although it always seems to say "Database connection is down, expect some tools to be limited or non-functioning"). If there's no text in the big box, and it says "There are no disambiguation links on ..." at the bottom of the page, that means everything is OK - as it is at Michael James Casey. With the naked URLs, the way to make them work is [URL Text to appear], with a space in the middle (you've been putting "][" where the space should be). Otherwise it looks fine. I'm away for a week now, but I'll keep an eye out here from time to time. A couple of minor and easily fixed things:

• When you copy in the picture of the memorial, can you change the name from "Walenn" to whoever the article is about? (!)
• To get the link for squadrons to work, you need a space between "No." and the number - so No. 97 Squadron RAF, not No.97 Squadron RAF

That's all from me. Thanks for all your efforts, and I think you deserve to feel pretty pleased with yourself - I've never seem someone create such great articles so quickly. Shem (talk) 09:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointers Shem, and for the comment on the articles, a good part of it has been quality mentoring in the last week or so !! I'll do that with the URL's in future. I had another article sitting in my pot ready for me to drop into the system when I get a reply from somebody concerning a photo. Could you have a quick look in my workbox1 (Nicholas Gresham Cooke) please - because I'm struggling with understanding why his rank has appeared in the title line and why his DFC postnominal is followed by a ] which I cant get rid of. Also I seem to have broken the Persondata line which crops up in the bibliography on this one. Have a great holiday. thanks R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 13:04, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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Whisperback

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London Gazette

If you use London Gazette frequently you may find Wikipedia:London Gazette Index useful. It provides an index of all issue numbers, given the corresponding date. (Note, the external links do not currently work, as the site reorganised, I will change them eventually.)

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC).

Many thanks Rich, it's appreciated. Researcher1944Researcher1944 (talk) 12:25, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject assessment tags for talk pages

Thank you for your recent articles, including Dennis Herbert Cochran, which I read with interest. When you create a new article, can you add the WikiProject assessment templates to the talk of that article? See the talk page of the article I mentioned for an example of what I mean. Usually it is very simple, you just add something like {{WikiProject Keyword}} to the article's talk, with keyword replaced by the associated WikiProject (ex. if it's a biography article, you would use WikiProject Biography; if it's a United States article, you would use WikiProject United States, and so on). You do not have to rate the article if you do not want to, others will do it eventually. Those templates are very useful, as they bring the articles to a WikiProject attention, and allow them to start tracking the articles through Wikipedia:Article alerts and other tools. For example, WikiProject Poland relies on such templates to generate listings such as Article Alerts, Popular Pages, Quality and Importance Matrix and the Cleanup Listing. Thanks to them, WikiProject members are more easily able to defend your work from deletion, or simply help try to improve it further. Feel free to ask me any questions if you'd like more information about using those talk page templates. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:02, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice Piotr, I'll have a look at that. I'm very new to Wikipedia I've only been active this month and I'm trying to pick it all up as quickly as I can. Researcher1944Researcher1944 (talk) 08:23, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

I just added a new article and I hope I got the tag right - I copied it. Espelid was a Norwegian flying with the RAF so I wasn't quite sure. Thanks R44Researcher1944 (talk) 09:45, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Articles are often suported by several Wikipedia projects. Those that concern soldiers or any other personnel involved in any way with the military can be included. Your articles about airmen for example should also have the MILHIST banner on the talk page. You might have to look around on Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history to find the example of their talk page banner. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:53, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks for the advice. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 17:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Ted Thorn (RAF officer)

Some good work on Ted Thorn (RAF officer) R44, but just a few things I had to tweak, if you re-use a reference you can just give it a name rather than repeat the references, you have used some forums and blogs which we dont like to use on wikipedia so I have had to remove them. Sometimes you have had loads of references for the same fact, as long as it is reliable you only need one reference. Ancestry use is frowned upon in some circles as a commercial website, try to use the actual record as a source like the census entry or the GRO reference rather than mention Ancestry. These are called primary sources and again are disliked but if you are just using them for factual information then they are probably OK, they should no be used for making assumptions. Have a look at what I have changed and if you have any questions or issues they get back to me. MilborneOne (talk) 19:59, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Confused

Hi. I'm just letting you know that I have moved your recent post out of my archives to my current talk page. Even if it has something to do with an earlier conversation, if a discussion has already been archived it's OK, and more practical, to start a new thread. New messages posted to archived pages might not be seen. I'll be looking into your message shortly and I will be replying at the new thread I created for you. I'll send you a whisperback when I have answered it. Cheers, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

confused by the lack of consistency in editing new articles

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Inconsistency among Wikipedia editors

Hi, I just stumbled across the problems you have been having with our fellow editors, so I thought I would drop by. I have found life here to be lively, sometimes painful but in the end satisfying. Some editors are great, but some really aren't and it's the great ones who make up for them. It takes a while to get the hang of things and during that period seeing your work undone can be painful, especially when it's only because one is too green to defend it yet. We have some great teams on some of the WikiProjects who often help each other out: every project has its Talk page. You will be welcome at the Aviation WikiProject. I can't promise we can resolve everything, but we will offer what support we can. Hope this helps. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:06, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

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John Grigson

Hi, I replied to your query on my talk page about the John Grigson article yesterday. Just wondering whether you saw my reply? — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 12:31, 20 September 2015 (UTC) Many thanks, Yes. ExcellentResearcher1944 (talk) 14:57, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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RAF Bomber Command Aircrew of World War II

Hi R44, Frankly, I think the article is outstanding. I linked two more articles to it and removed the Orphan tag. After a little more polish you should request a peer review. Well done. Samf4u (talk) 03:00, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

thanks very much Samf4u, I have some odd bits to add into it and 2 more pics, I'll get that done. thank you. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 07:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Because of my personal interest in the subject matter you write about, I have been reading a few more of your creations. Due to their high quality and respect of Wikipedia guidelines I have accorded your account the Autopatrolled flag. This means that articles you create will no longer need to pass the scrutiny of New Page Patrollers, relieving them of some of their backlog. Keep up the good work. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:20, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much Kudpung, your trust is sincerely appreciated. I am currently preparing my largest article RAF Bomber Command Aircrew of World War II for peer review, any hints before I take the plunge ? thanks R44Researcher1944 (talk) 08:16, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Another suggestion

First, thank you for creating the entry on Włodzimierz Kolanowski. Second, when creating articles about topics that are likely to have entries in non-English Wikipedia, I encourage you to add Wikipedia:Interwiki links. If you are not sure how to do it, check the said linked page or ask me! Anyway, I just linked this article to its pl wiki equivalent, which was already created in 2010 (and see the talk page for my comment on a certain inconsistency). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:15, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Thomas Kirby-Green

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

What a brilliant article, wonderfully researched, thank you. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 16:47, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind comment, I am working on individual articles concerning all 50 of the murdered officers and those involved in the post-war investigation and I'm about half way through now.Researcher1944 (talk) 16:53, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Articles you contributed to have been nominated for Did You Know

Thank youResearcher1944 (talk) 16:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Andrew Massey (British Army officer)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Re: Biographies

Your best bet would be to either use Category:British military personnel stubs or Category:World War II biography stubs. If you're not part of it already, I'm sure the WP:MILHIST project would love to have you as well (and they have task forces for both of the above). Great work so far from what I can see. Wizardman 15:41, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Very many thanks for your help.Researcher1944 (talk) 15:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Daniel Everett (RAF officer)

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Military Historian of the Year 2015

		The WikiProject Barnstar
		For "editing articles focused mainly on the Royal Air Force during the Second World War, your contributions to many biographical articles in this area and recent work on the epic RAF Bomber Command aircrew of World War II," I have the honor of awarding you this WikiProject Barnstar as an honorable mention in the Military History Newcomer of the Year 2015 vote. For the Military history WikiProject, TomStar81 (Talk) 02:32, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations, Researcher. All the best. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 02:53, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much, it's appreciated. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 11:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

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To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:48, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, best wishes for Christmas and the New YearResearcher1944 (talk) 17:09, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's greetings

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Smallbones

Oops - sorry about my rude edit summary. I hadn't realized that it was a new article by one author or I'd have been much more polite! Apologies and best wishes DBaK (talk) 18:50, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I'd spent most of the day doing the basics of the new article in my workbox and then dropped it into the system to finish it off but I wasn't able to get it all done before it was time for work and as often happens people jumped on it. I guess I should have done more work in the background and had it better polished/more complete before I loaded it up. As a newbie (6 months) I'd just taken nearly a month away from Wikipedia and pretty much decided to give up putting articles on here after being advised that anything I write might get deleted at anytime on the whim of any hyper editor passing by. I can see how you got disillusioned.Researcher1944 (talk)

Oh, sorry, but please don't give up - it's a good and interesting article. I've really enjoyed helping with it and I hope I haven't been too annoying after my initial twittishness! Cheers DBaK (talk) 15:14, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

So you're leaving over this?

Really? Tony (talk) 08:35, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

As my reply to your edit was on your talk page I’ll move back there to continue. But no, it’s not “just” this, this is the latest of a series of “editors” changing or removing material without fully understanding the significance of what they remove, simply cutting it because it didn’t fit their personal agenda at the time. You’ll see a section somewhere above titled "Confused" and “Inconsistency amongst editors” and there are a half dozen more very similar cases, see directly above here, or my comments to AustralianRupert (an administrator) on his talk page. It becomes frustrating continually having to defend material which is factually correct and properly sourced. R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 10:40, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

thanks for your offer on your talk thread -

I appreciate your thought but I'm done here, in my view too many want to be "Editors" and chop stuff around for next to no reason and without sufficient knowledge - not enough seem to be interested in actually contributing anything. The flags in my articles were significant in Wiki terms, military in Wiki terms and actually were the reason why the individuals were picked to be murdered. I'll pick up my coat on the way out. Best of luck, R44 Researcher1944 (talk) 07:47, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

I would request that give this project another couple of months. We have not interacted before, but I deeply appreciate your contributions and your approach. You have significantly improved areas of the encylopedia. It would be a positive to all if you continued. Press on, in a nutshell. Regards. Simon. Irondome (talk) 01:37, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

I had not intended to comment further but do not wish to appear rude after your kind thoughts Simon. Rapidly approaching retirement with more available free time I’d decided that I could do more than simply pop some money into the box every year. During the 6 months I was active here I contributed approaching 60 new articles and added materially to about another 20 gaining extremely valuable assistance on Wiki-izing from helpful editors. Of my small number of contributions one biog was quickly nominated for deletion as insufficiently notable (a decorated double flying ace, who had achieved “ace in a day” status and died fighting over Dunkirk), this was nominated by a Hollywood based “editor” specializing in a current local fashion involving stitching bits of lace to old furniture and also in Japanese sea shells. Pieces of several other of my contributions were then removed as irrelevant by “editors” also lacking subject knowledge, others were attacked before completion (for an example see just above here), a couple had to be restored after being vandalized within hours of being loaded, etc. Noting the curious manic obsession of some “editors” with their edit count and viewing that in the context of the percentage of unnecessary edits attracted by my small number of contributions I am led to believe that there must be a culture of edit counting here ? Are people incentivized to make any minor change qualifying as an edit to gain a prize or a badge or similar ? If they were adding, correcting or improving I’d be the first to shake their hands, editing by an experienced person, especially one with subject knowledge is extremely valuable but to have random folks jumping about simply trying to boost an edit tally is not. One resulting apology just above here was by editor DBaK (representing DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered), if people feel like that why do it, it frustrates those who do actually contribute. Wiki is a wonderful concept and I hope that changes can be made to save others giving up through frustration, I wish you all success, cheerio. R44Researcher1944 (talk) 09:33, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I really hope you decide to come back. You've done valuable work. Perhaps a break will clear things. Please ping me when you do return ... it would be good to talk about your work. Tony (talk) 14:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

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Volume I — Issue 1
Aviation Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Outreach • The WikiEagle
Announcements After over a decade of silence, the WikiProject Aviation newsletter is making a comeback under the name The WikiEagle. This first issue was sent to all active members of the project and its sub-projects. If you wish to continue receiving The WikiEagle, you can add your username to the mailing list. For now the newsletter only covers general project news and is run by only one editor. If you wish to help or to become a columnist, please let us know. If you have an idea which you believe would improve the newsletter, please share it; suggestions are welcome and encouraged. On 16 December, an RfC was closed which determined theaerodrome.com to be an unreliable source. The website, which is cited over 1,500 articles, mainly on WWI aviation, as of the publishing of this issue. Luft46.com has been added to the list of problematic sources after this discussion. The Jim Lovell article was promoted to Featured Article status on 26 December after being nominated by Hawkeye7. The Raymond Hesselyn article was promoted to Good Article status on 4 December after being nominated by Zawed. The Supermarine Sea King article was promoted to Good Article status on 22 December after being nominated by Amitchell125. The William Hodgson (RAF officer) article was promoted to Good Article status on 26 December after being nominated by Zawed.
Members New Members KingAviationKid (Joined on 17 December) PatrickChiao (Joined on 22 December) Wp9097 (Joined on 16 December) Number of active members: 386. Total number of members: 921. Closed Discussions Featured Article assessment Jim Lovell (discussion) – Closed as promoted on 26 December 2021 Good Article assessment HAL Tejas (discussion) – Closed as not promoted on 30 December 2021 William Hodgson (RAF officer) (discussion) – Closed as promoted on 26 December 2021 Supermarine Sea King (discussion) – Closed as promoted on 22 December 2021 Raymond Hesselyn (discussion) – Closed as promoted on 4 December 2021 Deletion Timeline of Berlin Brandenburg Airport's construction (discussion) – Closed as delete and redirect on 30 December 2021 Evergreen International Airlines Flight 17 (discussion) – Closed as keep on 25 December 2021 Requested moves Akbarpur (Ambedkar Nagar) Airstrip → Akbarpur Airstrip (discussion) – Closed as moved on 30 December 2021 1983 Avensa Douglas DC-9 crash → Avensa Flight 007 (discussion) – Closed as moved on 30 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 035 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 035 (discussion) – Withdrawn on 28 December 2021	Article Statistics This data reflects values from DMY. Aviation pages by quality Quality Total FA 142 FL 15 A 56 GA 505 B 4,573 C 11,878 Start 15,082 Stub 18,754 List 2,539 Category 11,638 Disambig 653 File 2,713 Portal 629 Project 89 Redirect 1,518 Template 2,489 NA 66 Assessed 73,339 Unassessed 1 Total 73,340 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 251,904 Ω = 4.92
New/Ongoing Discussions Featured Article review D. B. Cooper (discussion) – Since 14 December 2021 A-class Article assessment Granville Gee Bee Model A (discussion) – Since 21 April 2020 List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the Iraq War (discussion) – Since 22 February 2010 Good Article assessment Romanian Air Corps (discussion) – Since 25 December 2021 Jean Batten (discussion) – Since 2 October 2021 Merger proposals List of astronauts by name → List of astronauts by year of selection (discussion) – Since 10 August 2021 List of cosmonauts → List of space travelers by nationality (discussion) – Since 10 August 2021 List of space travelers by name → List of space travelers by nationality (discussion) – Since 10 August 2021 Holidays Czech Airlines → Czech Airlines (discussion) – Since 23 June 2021 Bendix Aviation → Bendix Corporation (discussion) – Since 30 May 2021 Airport Movement Area Safety System → Airport Surface Surveillance Capability (discussion) – Since 29 May 2021 ASDE-X → Airport Surface Surveillance Capability (discussion) – Since 28 May 2021 Splitting proposals Family Airlines (discussion) – Since 23 November 2021 2021 Kabul airport attack (discussion) – Since 24 September 2021 List of military aircraft of the United States (discussion) – Since 16 August 2021 Braniff International Airways (discussion) – Since 8 September 2019 Deletion List of maiden voyages (discussion) – Since 29 December 2021 Requested moves Hot-air balloon → Hot air balloon (discussion) – Since 30 December 2021 Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 108 → Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 109 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 150 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 150 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 206 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 206 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 708 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 708 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 Garuda Indonesia Flight 892 → Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 892 (discussion) – Since 28 December 2021 TWA Flight 800 → TWA Flight 800 (1996) (discussion) – Since 27 December 2021 Dynamic Airways Flight 405 → Dynamic International Airways Flight 405 (discussion) – Since 26 December 2021 CommutAir Flight 4281 → CommutAir Flight 4821 (discussion) – Since 25 December 2021 Thai Airways → Thai Airways International (discussion) – Since 13 December 2021 Thai Airways fleet → Thai Airways International fleet (discussion) – Since 13 December 2021 List of Thai Airways destinations → List of Thai Airways International destinations (discussion) – Since 13 December 2021 Did you know Ravish Malhotra (discussion) – Since 30 December 2021 Alexander Tahy (discussion) – Since 26 December 2021 Veronica Volkersz (discussion) – Since 6 December 2021 Rudolf Szepessy-Sokoll (discussion) – Since 3 December 2021 On The Main Page Did you know... ... that the aerobatic demonstration aircraft used by SoloTürk is also used in military operations of the Turkish Air Force? (24 December)
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations opening soon

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting opening soon!

Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction to previous election announcement

Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I (Hog Farm) didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon

Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election have opened. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:05, 2 September 2023 (UTC)