User talk:Rgr09/Sandbox/Subpage
Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because it is a stub, copied from the current Wikipedia page on Operation Mockingbird except for the lead paragraph which I just wrote myself. It therefore cannot be an unambiguous copyright infringement. Please leave a note on my page if you have further questions. Rgr09 (talk) 11:53, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement. This information has been moved from Operation Mockingbird. This page and https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKintelligence.htm are both quoting the same reports. The information at https://www.quora.com/Is-the-CIA-still-to-this-day-infiltrating-the-media is copied from the Wikipedia page Operation Mockingbird. - Location (talk) 11:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Thoughts
edit@Rgr09: CIA and the press could be a HUGE project, but I think getting all this out of OM is the right idea. What do you think of the information cited to Bernstein's article? I know there are plenty of people who carelessly assert that he is writing about OM (e.g. [1]), but I think it should be moved, too. Given the paucity of reliable sources specifically mentioning OM - Hadley's book is the only one I have seen - I am starting to think OM should be a blurb in the general article you are proposing. It would be nice if all of the lazy journalists who write about this subject looked here first. - Location (talk) 12:24, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Location: I agree it is a huge project, but the wiki motto seems to be start small and slowly bloat. It should attract considerable amounts of internet cruft that will be a lot of work to sift through and verify or dispose of, but getting rid of misinformation is always a good goal.
- I think your division of categories was good: CIA/press surveillance, CIA/press cover, CIA/press propaganda. All could fit in here. The truly elastic one is propaganda. This is because propaganda is an elastic concept; most people think of propaganda only as a form of deception or "mind control" but of course it is a much more general concept than deception. And it is not science fiction/fantasy, thus differing from mind control. Rgr09 (talk) 13:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Leave this here
editI'm going to leave this here rather than try to do anything fancy. If it is deleted again, que sera sera guys. Rgr09 (talk) 13:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)