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Blank page jump!

Also easier now to spot silly vandalism. Will ^(talk) 12:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Riana has a (nearly) blank talk page. Must fill up before something bad happens... :)--DarkFalls ^talk 05:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

What could possibly go wrong? (Famous last words) :) ~ Riana ⁂ 05:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

This couldn't possibly be right... this guy has short-term memory problems. From this to this... --DarkFalls ^talk 05:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh golly, what a dzasta! –sebi 11:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Hornetman16

There was an MFD Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hornetman16. Cheers SLSB talk • contrib 17:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh sorry. I didn't mean to upset you. SLSB talk • contrib 17:20, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Girls Aloud

Can you fully lock the article, and all its related ones (Sarah Harding, Nicola Roberts, Kimberley Walsh, Nadine Coyle) in the interim, and take it to WP:OFFICE for me please. Posted on behalf of Girls Aloud, --Marpessick 18:10, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I cannot "take it to WP:OFFICE". You will need to make a specific complaint first, via OTRS. I cannot see how protecting an article will help solve the band's complaints when there is no ongoing disruption that I can see which might add to their problems. If it is existing material that is harmful, bring this up on the talkpage. Your main recourse really is an OTRS complaint - and a specific one. ~ Riana ⁂ 18:13, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

• Well, can you just lock the articles - and all the related ones mentioned above, until the subjects have stopped complaining?? They decided to try and copy the actions of a certain guy called Daniel Brandt, and they do have genuine issues with the article. Please do this for me... --Marpessick 18:25, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't really edit the articles on them, per the guideline WP:COI - editing about people you work for. People need to discuss this. --Marpessick 18:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

This and this may be relevant here. I remember the KBWalsh one from when I was editing. Just helping out.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello Hackney, lovely to have you even if it is brief. I shall do some digging now, tho I never hoped to do so on behalf of these particular ladies... ~ Riana ⁂ 18:46, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Looks like I'm going to be around for slightly longer than I planned as the first case in front of the Arbitration Committee has the wrong scope and looks like being declined, so if it does I'll be presenting a different case involving most of the same people. Still I've got two, possibly three, new articles to write while I'm here so more time can't hurt really.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

A present

Hello Riana, I noticed that you didn't link to your barnstar gallery, so I made you a small present to put on your page. It will make a box like mine or Phaedriel's, that expands to show your gallery. If you don't like it, by all means, don't use it, but I hope you enjoy it! Here is the code:

code

{| cellpadding="10" cellspacing="8" style="width: 100%; margin-bottom:20px; background-color:papayawhip; border: 1px solid sienna; vertical-align: top; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px;" | style="background-color:navajowhite; border: 1px solid sienna; border-right-width:4px; border-bottom-width:4px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 8px; padding: 8px;" colspan="2" | <div class="NavFrame collapsed" style="border-style: none; padding: 0px; font-size: 100%;"> <div class="NavFrame collapsed" style="border-style: none; text-align: left; border:sienna solid 2px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; background:#D2691E; padding: 5px; font-size: 75%;"> <div class="NavHead" style="-moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px; background:#FFCC99; text-align: center; padding: 2px; font-size: 170%;"><font face="trebuchet ms" color="black"><b><i>Barnstars</i></b></font></div> <div class="NavContent" style="background: none; font-size: 133%;"> {{User:Neranei/sand1}} </div></div> |}

Enjoy! Love, Neranei

Thanks Neranei! I don't really like making my awards too prominent, though. The whole idea of barnstars is a bit flawed (not that I complain when I get them - I just don't like flaunting them). Thanks though, musta taken you heaps of time to write that all up. Cheers ~ Riana ⁂ 01:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, I understand. (Shiny things are nice, though.) It actually didn't take that much time; it was bits and pieces of my userpage pasted together. The colors were a bit hard though. Anyways, happy editing! Love, Neranei (talk) 01:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922)

Hi, the article Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922) has unfortunately become the scene of another edit war. User Laertes, who, as his record shows, has been banned several times for engaging in edit wars over Turkish nationalist positions, has been blocking any progress in the article. 87.203.160.163 09:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Currently you've both left 3RR way behind. I could block the both of you, or I could lock the article because you 2 won't let up, or you could both act civilised and take it to the talkpage. You have 5 minutes to decide before I have to log back out. ~ Riana ⁂ 09:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I really should have blocked the pair of you, but Fully protected for another week. ~ Riana ⁂ 09:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Help...please

Good Morning...I am having a bit of a problem with a bot that continues to tag this image as a "Non-free logo" when it is clearly a Seal. I retag it as a "Seal" and sure enough, it is tagged no more than a day later as a "Non-free logo", when it is not a logo. This Seal has already been up for deletion once, tagging it as a "logo" will get it deleted right quick.

I am not sure exactly what I should do. Can you help? My thanks for any help you can give. Take Care and Have a Good Day...NeutralHomer ^T:C 09:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I asked Cyde a question regarding this... Nothing we could do until he comments, or tells the bot to stop. --DarkFalls ^talk 10:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Okie Dokie....I will keep an eye on his talk page and this one as well. Many thanks DarkFalls. Take Care and you Have a Good Day as well...NeutralHomer ^T:C 10:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Huh?

Sorry I'm often naive about many things. How might that link he added get myself into trouble? Just want to know out of curiosity. I am aware though that the site in question is quite critical of Wikipedia but I read practically any site that has to do with Wikipedia to be honest.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 02:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

• Ah I see, thanks for your concern. I'll trust your judgment ;)...¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 02:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Answer

Ma'am, I believe I have the answer to your question. --(Review Me) R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 04:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Unblock

Happy to see that you have unblocked me. But since I am curently too busy with my work , I will not be able to participate in the arbitration process (atleast for 4-5 days).-Bharatveer 05:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

My page

Hi - thanks for removing the semi-protect temp from my page. Its weird - I never put it there! I didn't even actually notice it, till it was removed. Thanks for that. And no - thanks for the offer, but my page doesn't suffer heavy vandalism etc. so a semi-protection isn't necessary. Thanks again -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

RFPP

Hi Riana! Thanks for fixing the left-over icon on Salem witch trials. I've found a couple of those, that were left when page became (or was made) unprotected, and I don't know where else to report them, so that's why I posted it at RFPP. If there is a specific page to report that kind of thing, feel free to let me know and I'll be sure to put them in the proper place next time I find one. I wasn't requesting protection, really, so I'm fine with it not being protected, I just have looked and searched and could not find anywhere else to post that, lol. Thanks again! ^Ariel♥Gold 12:49, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey ArielGold :) I would just remove the template with a note like 'page is not protected, request at WP:RFPP', because I think a lot of newer people think that just the template gives the protection. If you yourself feel the page merits a lock, you can ask yourself. Cheers, ~ Riana ⁂ 13:00, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh, okay well I did not wish to overstep my bounds by removing that icon, lol. So I'll do that in the future, thanks for your help! ^Ariel♥Gold 13:02, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Diversitygroup

Looks like they are at it again. Already reverted page and added {{coi2}} tag, also gave them a {{uw-own3}} warning on their talk page. You may want to keep an eye out too. Cheers, --DBishop¹⁹⁸⁴ 14:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, mate. Will keep an eye out. ~ Riana ⁂ 00:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Maigad

Regarding Maigad (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): diff1 (Tastetrees) vs. diff2 (Maigad). --Dynaflow babble 06:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocked indef. --DarkFalls ^talk 06:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, both of you. =) --Dynaflow babble 06:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Kenilworth Wardens

Hi Riana

I believe you deleted the listing regarding Kenilworth Wardens Cricket Club as per following:

09:07, 9 August 2007 Riana (Talk | contribs) deleted "Kenilworth Wardens Cricket Club" ‎ (Expired prod, concern was: Fails WP:ORG; no independent sources cited. Non-notable amateur sports club.)

This was brought to my attention when I tried to update this contribution.

Please could you undelete so I can amend and update my article

--Stuchop 15:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Protected title

I assume this was what to do? If so, that's the first one I've done! :) Acalamari 19:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert. Just to let you know, you should unblock and reblock that IP with a time of 24 hours. That IP is a dynamic IP user that's been bugging me and a couple of other users. Acalamari 22:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Help

I am under vandal (sockppupet ?) attack for last few days. Attacker is only 1 but he is using this IP: user:212.200.198.125 user:212.200.198.33 ,user:212.200.192.153 user:212.200.198.105 user:212.200.199.125 . There is 2 - 3 possible attackers so I do not know how to make demand for check. I have demanded that user:Roremaster /user:Roramaster be blocked because 1 is sockpuppet of another and this has happen on 20 August so this is maybe my vandal. Another possibility is user:PANONIAN because I and he are having many months of discussions on wiki (If you are not guilty sorry PANONIAN but I know that attacker is from Serbia).--Rjecina 19:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It's User:Afrika paprika, by the looks of the edits and vandalism. I've semi-protected your userpage for a start - Alison ☺ 21:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

In my thinking it is not so ease. User:Afrika paprika is using IP 83...., 84....., 89..... i 194...... IP of my vandal is 212..... --Rjecina 01:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

OTRS permission

Hi Riana, could you check out the OTRS link for Image:Vss.JPG? Nilfanion tagged the image because it lacked fair use rationale, and I'm wondering if the OTRS ticket includes the rationale. If that is the case, then it could be added to the image description, and it wouldn't have to be deleted. Thanks, Nishkid64 (talk) 01:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Nish, the OTRS permission doesn't give a fair use rationale (that's really for us to write, not for the photographer, because it's us justifying the use of a nonfree image, not them). So, one would still need to write up a rationale for the image. ~ Riana ⁂ 01:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay thanks. The image has been deleted. Nishkid64 (talk) 02:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Please undelete the image so that I can add the fair use rationale. This is is historical photo for which I negotiated the OTRS permission from the photographer. No attempt to contact me on my talk page was made. -- Bovineone 05:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Make the rationale on a subpage. If it fits the non-free content criteria, we'll undelete. --DarkFalls ^talk 09:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bovineone, sorry about the late reply, seem to have missed the message bar :/ I don't think I can undelete this image - I had a look at the OTRS permission and it seemed incomplete to me, since it allowed Wikipedia-specific use only and wasn't even under a free license. I would recommend you contact the person who confirmed the permission for the image, Bastique (talk · contribs). Cheers ~ Riana ⁂ 09:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Everett High School (Washington)

:) Oh, sure, you delete the entries from the vandals, but you leave my edit with this edit summary, which no longer makes sense out of context! I guess that will teach me to say stuff like that.

Seriously, though, thanks for cleaning that stuff out. --barneca (talk) 12:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I dunno, it looks like you took a lot of crap out with a very self-deprecating edit summary :D Sorry about that! Good work on keeping an eye on that nonsense. ~ Riana ⁂ 13:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much for deleting those revs. I was barely awake when I protected the page yesterday. Went to bed an hour later, crashed, woke up this morning—"oh s**t! I left all that in the history!!!" Ran to computer, tripping over piles of work awaiting me—and Riana's fixed everything :) That was a nice surprise. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm angelic like that 0:) Seriously though - got a bunch of crap oversighted today, I do hope these kids move on to other stuff soon, like baseball and girls... ~ Riana ⁂ 14:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Amen. Anyway, good to have you around. I need to work on my follow-through... Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

unblock

Hey Riana, I'm not exactly opposed to your unblock of IfIKnewOneIWouldHaveChosenThatOne, but given the name is pretty cumbersome, the account had 1 edit and the user was communicative I feel it would have been appropriate to let them read up on :UN and provide a rationale for keeping the name. We might have been 5 minutes away from "OK, I understand, no problem, will register a shorter name" and everyone would have been happy.. Cheers, Deiz talk 14:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry Deiz, I didn't mean to make you unhappy! ._. I do believe that unnecessarily tossing out a brand new user when their username isn't disruptive (I grant it's cumbersome, but then I always spell Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington wrong) isn't the greatest thing in the world. I do a few username blocks and usually decline to block the ones that aren't outright egregious or spammy, and I felt that this one wasn't a terrible one. Sorry for any trouble I may have caused. Best, ~ Riana ⁂ 14:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

mail

Hi Riana, I sent you an e-mail, just so you know. See ya! --Kyoko 14:42, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Sheesh, hidden amongst the evil mailing list crap. :) Read and replied. ~ Riana ⁂ 14:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. :)--Kyoko 15:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:IAR

Hello! The wording was switched from plural to singular because "ignore them" could be interpreted as "ignore others." This change brought the added benefit of not implying that all of the rules should be followed or ignored en masse. —David Levy 17:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I find the fact that people are gaming IAR to be so incredibly ridiculous that it drains me of any attempt to respond in an intelligent manner, sorry David! Jeez... *shakes head* ~ Riana ⁂ 17:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I also gave up on that page. I'd had enough of wasting my time over something that doesn't matter at all. The wording of IAR won't change anything about the way people use Wikipedia. --Deskana (apples) 17:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Rambutan

Seeing as you denied the 3RR block, you may want to comment on the WP:AN thread. Will ^(talk) 18:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I just didn't see a need for a block when the page had already been prot'd. Bit silly. Going to sleep here - 'bout time too - I'll look into the AN thread tomorrow. ~ Riana ⁂ 18:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Rule of Tincture

Hello! Your welcome message is lovely, but it violates the rule of tincture, and it hurts my eyes to look at it. The background is a wonderful shade of blue. You should use a shade of white or yellow for the text for better visibility. Thanks! Isaac Pankonin 02:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Uh, well. It's a different colour now. User:Riana/Welcome. Sorry to cause your eyeballs any offense. ~ Riana ⁂ 02:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Image deletion

This image was wrongly deleted. [1] The image is not replaceable as clearly stated in the RFU dispute. How can someone be expected to illegally trespass on private property to obtain a free image? I would like to know what the rationale behind this was please. The Parsnip! 02:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

NFCC #8: Significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. Non-free media files are not used if they can be replaced by text that serves a similar function. That image did nothing for the article, and hence was deleted. If you asked the landowner for a free image, you could doubtless get one. It's a little extra work but it's worth it. A helpful link for you might be this. ~ Riana ⁂ 02:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There's no way the City of Harvey would give us a free photo of that portion of the interior. You have a point about the text thing, but I really did think this photo was ok. FYI, I've done a fair amount of RFU tagging, so I'm not just arguing for the sake of arguing here. Anyway, happy Friday (or whatever day it is in your part of the world)! The Parsnip! 16:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

A right pair

Thanks for helping to take care of that. I didn't want to do anything that look like retaliation for editing my talk page. Also I had got really busy at work. After going through the edits I suspect that the three of them are known to one another, probably editing at school. Thanks again. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Your Userpage

Hi, I just wanted to leave you a message and say that your userpage is excellent. It inspired the design of mine :). --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 21:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey, cool! I'd make the text white or a lighter colour though, since the grey is dark - bit hard for the blue and black to stand out :) Otherwise, neat job! Mine was designed by Phaedriel, so I can't really take much credit ;) ~ Riana ⁂ 01:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Riana, next time you're on IRC and I'm not Deskanaway or Deskanasleep, please PM me. It's not urgent, but it pertains to what we were speaking about a few days ago. --Deskana (apples) 22:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for the pp Riana! I promise to do my best to make sure this is the last time it happens. =)--Dali-Llama 07:51, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

POV

Can you take a look at Special:Contributions/Shalom_Shabat_Woggly. It looks massively POV. Thanks. --DarkFalls ^talk 10:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. Blocked by Woggly and reverted... --DarkFalls ^talk 10:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Gack, sorry! So busy portal building here, I kinda looked at the message bar, opened it in a new tab, and promptly forgot about it >< ~ Riana ⁂ 10:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

mail alert

Hi Riana, you've got mail! --Kyoko 11:13, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey

You've done a great job, big thanks for your help! :) I really don't have as much time as I'd like to have for Wikipedia these days, and I can't consistently maintain the portal and the WikiProject, so any assistance is deeply appreciated :) Todor→Bozhinov 16:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

This is flight BG2007, calling the tower for help

This is me calling in from the days when you were making wonderful contributions to take the article Bengali Language Movement to FA status, and I was at the sidelines appreciating you. Now the article Biman Bangladesh Airlines is in need for your help. It is almost ready for an FAC, but the current Bangladesh lot still doesn't have a good copyeditor. Preston McConkie is helping out. But, it needs you. Please... pretty please... If you need to ask any question, or want someone to do a bit of research, I promise to help with everything I have. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

WOMC

Good Afternoon....would you mind taking the full-protection down from the WOMC page as the reason given for the full-protection request, an "edit war", was false. There was no edit war going on.

According to WP:NOT#DIR, you can't have schedules on radio or TV pages. There is an argument I wish I hadn't gone through to learn that. The IP user was adding a schedule of DJs to the page, I reverted. He did it again, I reverted again. I never issued a vandalism warning, as I seen them not necessary since the user switched from one IP to another. It was just easier to revert. But to say I was engaging in an edit war is false and kind annoys me.

So, if you would, un-block the page and if the requesting user wishes to have it protected again, he can reissue his request with a correct and true reason. Many thanks. Take Care....NeutralHomer ^T:C 18:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Homer, what you've just given me is pretty much the definition of an edit war. You think it's wrong (and rightly so - I don't dispute that) so you remove it. He thinks it's OK, so he puts it back. Neither of you discuss because it's the hard option, rather than just reverting. I don't think I'll unprotect, it doesn't feel right to me, but you can ask for unprotection at WP:RFPP, I guess. I think it would be better for you to ask the anon to stop by citing policy, though. ~ Riana ⁂ 02:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I have tried, but with changing IPs (I am guessing he doesn't have a static IP) it is hard to talk to him on his talk page. Yeah, I could have, but to be honest, I don't think it would have done any good. I just don't think that citing policy would have stopped him. We can leave the block up, that's fine, but I bet you a crisp $1 bill that he changes it back come September 6th. If he does, and probably will, what do I do then? - NeutralHomer ^T:C 04:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I suppose I could semi it after that, because that's pretty disruptive. ~ Riana ⁂ 04:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Works for me :) Take Care and Have a Good Weekend....NeutralHomer ^T:C 04:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

This obnoxious vandal...

I found this: [2] by searching on the IP, and there's a range listed at the top of the page. Seems all the ip's in that range are owned by this guy, so why not try a short-term range block ,and see how he likes it? Gscshoyru 03:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

He's sure keeping us all on our toes, eh? ^Ariel♥Gold 03:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I wonder what Deskana did to piss him off? That's who he started with. i ^said 03:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it might be related to "the mighty badger vandal". :p Talking to someone now who knows more about rangeblocks than I do... ~ Riana ⁂ 03:42, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I've blocked 91.108.0.0/16 for 3 hours, see Special:Ipblocklist. This should work, unless I really messed something up... ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 03:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

That's what someone on IRC came up with too, so I'd say spot on :) ~ Riana ⁂ 03:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I too, was kind of thinking about the Badger thing, just because of the similarity with extreme persistence, lol. Every few days I see Mr Badger back for a spree. You all are doing an awesome job keeping up with this! Kudos to you all. ^Ariel♥Gold 03:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

It's the same guy -- I did the same search a few days ago, and found him... and someone submitted an abuse report that was subsequently laughed at. I didn't think of a range block till now. Gscshoyru 03:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I've unblocked the /16 range and blocked 91.108.192.0/18 upon advice. ~ Riana ⁂ 03:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

(ec) I was thinking of 91.108.0.0/18... Looking at the binaries, that seems to work too... Well that's been done.. --DarkFalls ^talk 03:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I actually messed up... So it's best you don't change it :) --DarkFalls ^talk 04:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, don't be hard on yourself, I still don't get range blocks at all... have to go running to IRC everytime I need one :) ~ Riana ⁂ 04:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Anyway what is Badger? --DarkFalls ^talk 04:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Might help ;) ~ Riana ⁂ 04:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Omg, DarkFalls, you missed the whole Badger thing? Go visit i's talk page, I just showed him some lol. (And Riana's page too lol) ^Ariel♥Gold 04:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow... we have one determined vandal... Lucky you put the account creation block on, Riana :) --DarkFalls ^talk 04:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

ROFL at the "BEANS" thing! Too cute Riana! ^Ariel♥Gold 04:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

My Dzasta

Thank you, sweetie! It's soothing to see you back again, more than I can say with words, believe me. There's been way more than meets the eye in my "rest", in fact - it was more like a "runaway". Following some events I'll tell you in private (I promise) I simply couldn't bear to remain here for a while. I've been quite active at other places, but when my ghosts also followed me there, I realized I couldn't keep on hiding. As I said, I'll make more sense by mail, on by Gmail chat, cross my heart, hope to die. It's warming beyond words to talk to you once more, sis. Love you lots, Phaedriel - 04:42, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Category:Non-commercial use only images for speedy deletion

I don't think you meant to delete Category:Non-commercial use only images for speedy deletion :) --- RockMFR 06:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

LOL! I'm an idiot... ~ Riana ⁂ 06:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Cdmvks

Can you take a look, there's now an edit war going on on his talk page; I think people aren't realising that he really is blocked but being blocked allows him to edit his talk page. He had put a notice saying he was blocked on his User and Talk pages prior to being blocked, which I think is part of what's confusing people. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 07:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Very strange :s Page protected. ~ Riana ⁂ 08:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.— Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 08:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Cdmvks

Noted - apologies. I guess nobody's perfect! Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 08:08, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Oops!

Did I step on one of your protects over on WP:RPP?? Sorry!! - Alison ☺ 08:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Nah, I just wouldn't have protected for 2 weeks... or at all... but that's OK ;) ~ Riana ⁂ 08:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I kinda made the same mistake.... Oh and see here Riana... Feel free to revert. --DarkFalls ^talk 08:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

The SKIN anon

This was the legal threat I was referring to. -Jéské ^{(v^_^v Kacheek!)} 08:33, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see that as an explicit legal threat at all. "I'll let her legal team handle it". Not - "I'll see your asses in court". Perhaps I need to work on my definition. ~ Riana ⁂ 08:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

See Alison's reply here. CattleGirl ^talk 08:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

oneiltake

hi riana. i got your message. thank you. i will go back and correct the page so it adheres to the policy but you deleted the entire page and the entire page was not copyright material... only that one portion. I will delete the article and place only the verifiable links. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oneiltake (talk • contribs) 11:42, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Signatures

I'm rather fond of my signature. It is colored to match my ethnicity, and it has "talk" in both English and Gaelic to identify as such. RobHoitt 13:47, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I see you edited my signature. That is unfortunate. Signatures are a means of self-expression, and while you may not personally like what is conveyed, it is the expression of the author, not the viewer that should be considered. As I said, in my case, what I use is a reflection of who I am, and where I come from. While I suspect you just do not like my color scheme, in today's world I could see others who would question your tolerance of their specific ethnicity by inhibiting their expression of it. RobHoitt 14:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I am very tolerant of all ethnicities. I am ethnically Indian, living in Australia. I have faced some pretty egregious stuff in my time, thanks very much. That said, I do not appreciate large signatures. That's pretty much all. ~ Riana ⁂ 14:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I was looking over your page, you have not done so to other colored/font changed signatures on it. RobHoitt 14:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

You may have noted in your perusal that none of these other signatures use any font size changing tags, nor quite a startling combination of colours. I really am not interested in arguing about something as silly as a signature - merely that if one interacts on discussion pages frequently, one should have a more professional signature. You do not have to heed my advice - I will not take offense if you do not. But I doubt I'll be the last person to talk to you about this. ~ Riana ⁂ 14:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

You may have noted in your perusal that none of these other signatures use any font size changing tags, nor quite a startling combination of colours. I really am not interested in arguing about something as silly as a signature - merely that if one interacts on discussion pages frequently, one should have a more professional signature. You do not have to heed my advice - I will not take offense if you do not. But I doubt I'll be the last person to talk to you about this. ~ Riana ⁂ 14:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Specifically I was referring to the signature of SLSB above, he has large fonts, and dark red on dark blue which is quite hard to read. As I said, signatures are truly a from of expression. Personally, in comparison to what I see out there, I feel that my signature is professional, and constrained to two colors. (I have seen three, four, and more colors on pages, so I feel that I am well within the WP:SIGNATURE guidelines.) In real life the majority of the things that I sign, with the exception perhaps of my tax forms (which require black or blue ink) is signed with a green pen. I am Irish-Catholic, our color is green, it is my way of showing a little pride in that. (I have a truly good friend and colleague who is Irish-Protestant, and proud of his family's affliations to the Orange Order and the Anglican Church, and he often wears Orange on St. Patrick's Day just to get a rise out of people. Because he does this, I have heard folks make very threatening and disparaging remarks to him because of this. But despite of the troubles that have gone on in Northern Ireland, he is an American, he has a right to express himself freely.) That being said, I too didn't want to debate the merits of my signature, but I felt that I needed to express why it is the way it is. While I accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and hopefully you saw this early on, I really took exception to your editing my signature down. Cheers! RobHoitt 14:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Holly moley! That's what i call garish! Sarah 14:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Please change it poste haste. It's like a big garish sticker. Sarah 14:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hideous.. was inspired by SilkTork (talk · contribs). I left them both a message over there. Deiz talk 14:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure why dark green and garish mustard could represent your ethnicity, but how and ever. It remains garish in the extreme and my retinas have been seared with its imprint. Go bhóire Dia orainn, 'sé go hainnis ar fad! - Alison ☺ 14:41, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Translation request over here ... ~ Riana ⁂ 14:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

"Good Lord - it's absolutely dreadful!" - Alison ☺ 17:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

The internet really is, in the truest sense, a world without borders. Calculating why anyone would feed any need to proclaim their background in such a garish manner, and be so defensive when asked to change, is beyond the computational capability of my mind. Nobody cares about race/religion/age/sex/anything on Wikipedia; we're just usernames. Martinp23 15:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I also find the signature in question to be rather distracting when I am trying to read text near it. ((1 == 2) ? (('Stop') : ('Go')) 15:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

The Australian description: Sheesh, bloody oath that's terrible! Daniel 00:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This works as well. Daniel 00:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Right to leave

I agree with the closing of this, I was going to do pretty much the same. My question is do you think we should have a redirect leading from the Wikipedia namespace to the user namespace like that? My understanding is that cross namespace redirects are undesirable. Not too determined either way, just wanted to get your opinion on it. ((1 == 2) ? (('Stop') : ('Go')) 15:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I deleted that redirect. I didn't realise it had been recreated... I'm not too keen on XNRs myself. I'll leave the user a note ~ Riana ⁂ 15:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I am going to go ahead and remove the redirect while you do that. Thanks for the input. ((1 == 2) ? (('Stop') : ('Go')) 15:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

ooh!

Indeed :) Daniel 23:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Need an Opinion

Can an admin tell an editor that he is not allowed to report another users behaviour on ANI? Many thanks...NeutralHomer ^T:C 00:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

If it involves you and Calton? Yes, an admin can, provided he issues the same directive to both parties. ~ Riana ⁂ 05:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think so. I am not allowed to mention....that user....nor post about that user or post on that user's conversations. Only mentioning me has been issued to that user. I will probably get in trouble for just saying "that user" as I am not even allowed to talk about that user in non-disciptive sayings like "that user" or "that guy over there". - NeutralHomer ^T:C 05:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

E-mail alert. - NeutralHomer ^T:C 05:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Homer, you asked Riana for her opinion, and you got it. But then you say that you don't think what she's saying is right, and you've done this many times before. What exactly do you want Riana to do? Sebi _[talk] 05:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess I didn't speak (type) correctly. The "Actually, I don't think so" was in response to her "provided he issues the same directive to both parties". It looks like I am disagreeing with Riana, but I am actually responding to her statement. My apologizes if it looks like the former. - NeutralHomer ^T:C 05:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I see now. I just pointed it out because it didn't seem like that from my point of view. Sebi _[talk] 05:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. :) Sometimes I type too fast or I don't read what I am writing so that the sentences aren't confusing, that is an example of me not watching what I am writing. Again, my apologizes. Take Care and Enjoy Your Weekend...NeutralHomer ^T:C 05:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It's Monday. Sebi _[talk] 06:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This is true, but it is the Labor Day Weekend...three day weekend :) So, it's kinda the weekend still....and kinda not :) Take Care...NeutralHomer ^T:C 06:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Meh... We have APEC. Bless Howard for making it a public holiday...(About the first and last time I'll say that) --DarkFalls ^talk 06:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

A whole week off...I'll take that :) That's one thing you will never see over here. Three day weekends are about it, unless it snows. - NeutralHomer ^T:C 06:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It's actually only one day (Friday). The public holiday is only "necessary" on that day because Bush is speaking... --DarkFalls ^talk 06:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm in the ACT and there was no public holiday today... *shrug*. Sebi _[talk] 06:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

"The New South Wales government has declared the 7th of September a public holiday that will encompass the Sydney metropolitan area, including Penrith, Camden and Campbelltown" It's only in the inner suburbs of Sydney. Talk about selective... --DarkFalls ^talk 06:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I misread that one. Wow, only in a certain area. That sucks. Here Labor Day is for the 50 states, DC, Puerto Rico, and all territories. Some companies still work on Monday though, like radio, TV, and whatnot, but most have off. The company my Dad works for (fire sprinkler company) took Friday off too (paid) and made it a 4 day weekend, that is also something that companies to here, but it isn't a holiday. - NeutralHomer ^T:C 06:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hello!

Hello Riana! Now, you can e-mail me. Thank you. RS1900 04:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I am waiting for your e-mail. RS1900 05:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

E-mail sent a little while ago, check your inbox :) ~ Riana ⁂ 05:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Riana! RS1900 05:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Riana, please delete the diff version of my talk page. Thank you. RS1900 05:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Just about to step out for uni here. If a passing admin could review the situation it would be good ~ Riana ⁂ 05:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Will do ;) - Alison ☺ 05:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

You're too quick Allie... :) --DarkFalls ^talk 05:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Too slow, dude :) - Alison ☺ 06:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done - should be okay now - Alison ☺ 06:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. RS1900 08:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

You told me that you can delete diff version of my talk page. Can you please delete these five diff version of my talk page? [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] I will be very happy if you delete these five diff version of my talk page. Thank you. RS1900 12:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words

Thanks very much for your co-nom, and also for catching that error on my userpage! I'm working on my bit now. I'll probably transclude late-ish September 3 (UTC). -- Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 04:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Great! Looking forward to it :) ~ Riana ⁂ 04:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It's up. Thanks again! Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 03:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922)

And it appears that the edit warriors were just waiting for the protection to be lifted.[8] Pairadox 10:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Notify...

Take a look at Neutralhomer's talk. He's been blocked... --DarkFalls ^talk 11:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Er, I don't think I'm a part of this but I saw my name pop up on AN/I and just left my recap here to clear up any potential confusion. Not sure if it helps or not but just thought I should inform someone. -WarthogDemon 18:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)