Robbi

French Connection

Hi Robbi, thank you for helping with the article. I was an early student and friend also (which makes it harder to edit and be neutral when you have a personal involvement). Regarding WP policies, try to always sign your name with 4 tildes ~~~~ at the end of a message in a talk page, so everyone will know who it's from and will be able to respond etc. Regarding Sky Acres, sure you can put in anything that improves the article in your opinion. You can keep responding here if you want, I'll watch your page. Crum375 14:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Crum, I'm so new I just found this talk page! I'm guessing you created it. Do I know you? Are you manually entering your post time? Now I don't understand the tildes, and don't see them in your post above. What am I missing? Again, I was so happy to see your article. I'd intended to put one up months ago but didn't get the chance. Robbi 18:20 EDT June 6, 2006

I doubt that you know me, though I do get to POU every now and then. Well, I guess I beat you setting up the article, but you are welcome to improve it. It's missing all their early years in France and the U.S., and overall is very skimpy at this point. The tildes expand after you save (or even preview) the page. Make sure you use 4 of them. Thanks, Crum375 02:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Crum, Thanks. I'll try to eventually put together more on their early US history. I met them at KPOU in the early 70s when they were still in Orange County. There's a guy in France that is writing an book on their lives in the US. More info on that when I get it. Here comes my first signature with tildes: Robbi 03:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Robbi, I noticed your latest minor edit was to add a link to aerobatic. I believe the WP style rule is to link the first instance only, certainly when it appears in the same paragraph as here. Crum375 14:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Crum, I just saw your note and made the correction. Thanks again for the education. Robbi 14:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

My pleasure. Just visited POU too. Crum375 14:54, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Crum, did you come to KPOU for a ride in EAA's Ford Tri-Motor? What fun! I have a video coming up on Google this week. Robbi 12:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I wish. Sounds like fun. Crum375 14:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Auguste Mudry, the father of Avions Mudry, maker of the CAP airplanes, passed away on August 5, 2006. Robbi 20:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, at the age of 90. I see here they plan a memorial in September at his airfield in Bernay. Crum375 20:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

More on the Sept. 30 Celebration here Robbi 12:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately I would have to skip it, although I am sure the french food alone (for 20 Euro) would justify it ;^). I never got to meet Auguste; I am sure he was quite a guy. Did he ever get to KPOU? Crum375 12:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't think he ever came to the U.S. We met him at Bernay in the early 80s. More about him here and here. Robbi 12:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Robbi, maybe you are implying that a WP article should be created for Auguste and his CAP creations? That's not a bad idea, although I just searched the French WP and could not find him there. In one of the sites you provide above it says he and his company were unappreciated and unsupported in France, and "had to fight each step of the way". If there is no French WP article, maybe that's related? If I were to do this myself, I would have to do some serious brushup on my dusty French ;^) Crum375 13:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Crum, You give me to much credit for calculated subtlety! That's a great idea. I honestly did not think of it. Robbi 20:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Scaringly, our 'private chat' here is for all to see. If you Google "Auguste Mudry", for instance, and look for English results only, this here page comes up as number 13 on the main search list. Amazing. I'll think about the articles after some basic research. Crum375 20:17, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Robbi, any chance we can get a nice photo of Montaine and Daniel to accompany the article? Ideally it should be released to the public domain, then WP can use it with no problems. If it's a more restrictive license it would be harder to keep it. If you have such a photo or are aware of a way to get one, please let me know and we can discuss it. Thanks, Crum375 23:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey Crum, I just sent a request to a major official and will let you know if the lead plays out. Robbi 02:20, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Great! Thanks, Crum375 02:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Still waiting for an answer. But I see at least 3 of the links on my tribute site are using the same photo of the pair (the one with Daniel's left hand on Montaine's left shoulder. It looks to me like it's in the public domain. Robbi 13:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately WP is very sensitive in its licensing requirements, so we would need some confirmation of public domain status. I picked the current image and justified it as promotional material, but ideally we need a real release into the public domain by the copyright owner. So either a clear publicity photo from a sales brochure or equivalent, or a certified public domain version. Thanks, Crum375 14:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

EAA Photo just gave me permission to pull their copy. They don't know where they received it from, possibly French Connection's Mudry Aviation, now defunct. Ah-ha, wait...Sales Brochure...I loooked at 3 of their previous brochures and found 2 of my photos, which we certainly can use. What should I do? I can add both of them to the article and you can do what you think is right, including what kind of public domain statement needs to be posted. Robbi 18:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. It just occurred to me: If you're worried about the current 'mirror' pic, we can replace it with my photo from the top of my tribute page instead, with or without the inset. Include the inset and it might also eliminate the need for a second picture. Robbi 20:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind having extra pictures, the more the merrier as far as I'm concerned, as long as they are nice, relevant and with the public domain copyright. The easiest way to do it is for you to upload them through the 'Upload file' link on the left side of the page, then if you are the creator and copyright owner you can declare so and release it into the public domain. If you need any help there let me know. Once it's uploaded, let me know also, and I can attach it to the article. I am not concerned about the existing picture since its license seems OK for now, and I prefer to have Daniel and Montaine separately (not necessarily from each other). Crum375 21:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I uploaded only one image. It's FrenchConnection-Daniel&Montaine.jpg The other image was not really good. I hope you can use this one Robbi 22:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Robbi. We had to delete the image because of personal info. Can you re-upload without a personal name? Use: 'PD-self' "I am the copyright holder and I release this into the public domain" then email to permissions@wikimedia.org and send a link to the image and your release to that e-mail address. Thanks, Crum375 23:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Crum, I see the added picture. Nice, thanks. BTW the canopy-to-canopy is known by Daniel and Montaine as the "mirror" or "miroir", in case you want to modify the caption of the larger photo. Cheers, Robbi 01:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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