Robert M Johnson

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Aeolipile

Hi. I am trying to maintain my cool in response to your edit summary "Replaced sloppy quote (spelling errors, etc.) with a more direct, and accurate quotation." as I have been guilty of similarly inappropriate phrases before now myself. If you check the reference (which has not been altered) you will find that the text matches exactly what I had entered. I know this to be the case because I cut-and-pasted it from the Project Gutenburg website myself. Could you provide a reference for the text that you used, please?

EdJogg (talk) 00:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Bill Thayer's English Translation of Book 1 chapter 6.2 of Vitruvius: On Architecture [1] Check it out. It is by far the most recent and accurate, and it is the most-logical choice from the existing English translations:

• Vitruvius: Ten Books on Architecture, apparently translated by committee, edited by Ingrid D. Rowland and Thomas Noble Howe; Cambridge University Press, 1999.
• Vitruvius: De Architectura, translated by Frank Granger; Cambridge (Mass.): Harvard University Press, 1931.
• Vitruvius, The Ten Books on Architecture, translated by Morris Hicky Morgan; Cambridge (Mass.): Harvard University Press, 1914.
• The Architecture of Marcus Vitruvius Pollio, translated by Joseph Gwilt, London: Priestley and Weale, 1826.
• The Architecture of Marcus Vitruvius Pollio, translated from the original Latin by W. Newton, Architect, London: Dodsley, 1771 and 1791

It's a direct translation of:

2. ventus autem est aeris fluens unda cum incerta motus redundantia. nascitur cum fervor offendit umorem et impetus calefactionis exprimit vim spiritus flantis. id autem verum esse ex aeolipilis aereis licet aspicere et delatentibus caeli rationibus artificiosis rerum inventionibus divinitatis exprimere veritatem. fiunt enim aeolipilae aereae cavae. hae habent punctum angustissimum quo aqua infunduntur conlocanturque ad ignem, et antequam calescant non habent ullum spiritum, simul autem fervere coeperint, efficiunt ad ignem vehementem flatum. ita seire et iudicare licet e parvo brevissimoque spectaculo de magnis et inmanibus caeli ventorumque naturae rationibus.

(from the Latin Teubner edition of 1899 by Valentin Rose)

Also, sorry if my edit summary came off as rude. The information (above the direct quotation) was presented very poorly, and there were indeed spelling errors. -Rob^talk 17:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Response re Aeolipile

The only edit I made to this article is in the discussion of the physics of the device, not in any direct quotations of original latin description. At least there is no reference to such a source, and I would find it curious if an early source already knew about Newton's laws and rocket principles. The only reference is to an online science encyclopedia with a treatment that is rather low level. The discussion of the physics was inaccurate and with some poor language. For example, it is not the nozzle that generates the thrust, but the expanding steam exiting the nozzle, the nozzle only serves to increase the exit velocity of the gas. I could cite more problems, but I think you must be referring to another editor's changes. Kbrose (talk) 14:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Wesley Autrey

I appreciate that you are acting in good faith, but it is best if featured articles are nominated by people who have worked closely on them. In this way, they can give reasoned replies to reviewers and be familiar enough with the sources to act on suggested improvements. Someone who has not worked on the article can not provide this input, so the nomination may continue until opposition to it becomes so overwhelming that the article is failed; this takes away time from reviewers. While the Wesley Autrey article is of reasonable quality, it is not yet of featured quality, and principal contributors must be consulted before a nomination, as required in the featured article candidate instructions. Dabomb87 (talk) 05:29, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Wow..... a TEMPLATE to "show concern." I followed all instructions with my nomination. It couldn't have just been left up? Let it fail? Nothing wrong with failure. Its part of the learning process. How am I to "learn" anything from this event if some loser with no life removes it before it even gets a chance? At a box-car derby, you don't tell the child with a car who obviously won't win that he cannot compete. You are ignorant. -Rob^talk 19:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but the template expressed what I wanted to say more clearly than if I had written it out. Letting it fail is not a good idea here because it would have wasted precious reviewer resources. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:08, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I'd also appreciate it if you used more constructive language rather than write me off as "a loser" and "ignorant". Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Persons, like yourself, who become involved voluntarily in "policing" the Wikipedia (for no purpose other than personal gratification) are sad.
I find it to be very depressing that you do not have any real hobbies, and instead fill your "empty spaces" with the Featured Article Candidacy of Wikipedia.
I'm sorry for entering your CAVE and "wasting" your "precious resources." (which you waste anyway paTROLLing Wikipedia). -Rob^talk 03:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Problems Involving Copyright, Source, Annoying Bot users, etc.

"Wiki Bot" Owners

Your "contributions" to the wiki, from my personal experience thus far, have been nothing short of automated attempts at removing valuable (albeit, uncited) information from the eye of the general public. If a human being were to perform the same analysis of your bot(s), one would clearly realize that this "help" is in fact a nuisance in many situations. Robert M Johnson (talk) 09:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Tepeticpac

Sorry if I came off too trigger-happy or aggressive in tagging the article. I added the expand and reference tags because a large portion of the articles that I see on New Page patrol are not touched again for a while, and usually by newer users. In the future it might be beneficial to add the reference with the article initially; I'm not the only one doing new page patrol, so anyone could add that template. Also, I'm not a bot. :P As for the threads above this one, those aren't bots either but editors using automated programs, such as WP:TWINKLE or WP:FRIENDLY. I don't know if you already knew this stuff or not, but it doesn't hurt for me to explain it if you don't. Have a nice evening, and happy editing. Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 04:31, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I am more than aware of these "Automated browsers," because I find the automated wiki community annoying, and I have looked into ways to avoid conflict. A bot performs actions much the same way a "user" (utilizing an automated browser) would. They are all "bots" in my opinion.-Rob^talk 05:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

But, they aren't bots. I'm confused by your opinion. WP:TWINKLE/WP:FRIENDLY are just scripts that allow users to perform manual, tedious tasks much faster, like inserting maintenance templates for instance, or tagging files for speed deletion. I suppose I can't argue your opinion; it is yours. Hopwever, I do find it quite confused. Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 05:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I find, both users who use scripts to edit the wiki and bots (and their likeness) to be annoying since "edits" are made usually without a human being judging the actions (IE adding things to a page within 60 seconds of it being created). It is not difficult to understand. -Rob^talk 05:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe that applies for bots (and I would still hesitate to agree), but not the scripts I have described. For instance, I used friendly to tag the article you created with the aforementioned tags. I used judgement, as I described above. These scripts merely made my job faster, allowing me to get more done. I don't wish to argue with you over this, as it seems we are at odds. However, thank you for describing your view point, and happy editing. Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 05:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

With the keyword in my previous statement being the word "usually", my statement is still valid. Simply since your judgement was, in your own words, "trigger-happy or aggressive," I merely assumed your actions were a bit more automated than what you claim.

Can you honestly tell me that you checked to see when the page was created? Or did your script skip all of that "judgement" for you? That is the lack of human being judgement I am referring to.

Many users like yourself contribute to the Wikipedia using scripts, and many of them simply prevent valid (though sometimes uncited) information from reaching the casual individual browsing the wiki. In my case, however, an automated script triggered a red flag for tagging seconds after I had created a page, giving me little time to add the proper citation.

Perhaps if you enjoy tagging articles, you might like to browse newly created pages that were added a bit more than a few seconds ago.-Rob^talk 06:30, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't check, no, nor did I say I did. I knew it was a new page, created seconds earlier, and I knew that when I tagged it. When I tagged the article, it did not have any references on it. I tagged it, as I said above, because I have seen many new articles go by that remain in the same condition that they were in when they were created, so I tag ones with obvious problems that so the problem will eventually be remedied. As for your article, one that fixed the obvious problem early, how was I supposed to know that you were going to add a citation? I merely took a preemptive action that was unecessary, but harmed no one. I would be quite surprised if tasks such as reverting vandalism, removing articles/images that are clearly fail CSD, or tagging articles with maintenance templates for later improvement being made easier by a bit of automation really impairs the editors or the readers. As I said, I don't wish to argue, as we are obviously at different points of view of here. Thank you for clarifying your point, and have a nice evening. Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 07:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Robertmjohnsonuserimage.jpg

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Resolved... Damn wiki nazis. Robert M Johnson (talk) 05:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

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Wow... the owners of these "wiki bots" need to lay off. Robert M Johnson (talk) 09:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

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I'm assuming this bot is utilized to lighten the load on Wikipedia. I'm not sure what the bot has done so far, other than uploading a copy of the image to Wikimedia and overwriting any source information submitted with the original upload. I don't see this going well, but I will give it a fair chance. -Rob^talk 02:08, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

IP vandalism

If you have a problem with the procedures laid out at WP:VANDAL then take it up there instead of littering my talk page. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 11:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Again, as I stated before, I am more than familiar with Wikipedia and its rules/guidelines (while you clearly misunderstand them). It specifically states USER, not IP address.

"If you see that a user has added vandalism you may also check the user's other contributions (click "User contributions" on the left sidebar of the screen). If most or all of these are obvious vandalism you may report the user immediately at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, though even in this case you may consider issuing a warning first, unless there is an urgent need to block the user. Otherwise you can leave an appropriate warning message on the user's talk page." -Rob^talk 10:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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Strange... the "image" was still linked to a page until 13:09, 9 July 2011 when CommonsDelinker claimed it had been deleted, and removed the link.

The image itself was deleted before the link to the image on the page was severed, so this "orphaned" issue is some sort of bot malfunction. -Rob^talk 10:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

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A comment on your user page.

Your comment on your feelings about Purdue Calumet made me smile a smile of reminiscing. I attended both IU Bloomington and IUN (aka Gleason Park High). Math is not my best subject and I failed intro Calculus twice in Bloomington. Got an A at IUN. Yup...spent most of the semester on polynomials, a subject I learned in 8th grade. John from Idegon (talk) 01:36, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Ugh what an "experience" that was. My user page actually hasn't been updated in quite some time, and I only just today updated my age, which was last updated six years ago. I never did finish that semester at Purdue Calumet, as I formally withdrew from my courses as I had predicted. I ended up working full time to support myself while pursuing my CompTia A+ and Net+ certifications to work in the IT field. The nail in the coffin for my pursuit of the degree from that "university" was the Java Programming teacher. To summarize.... I was basically paying thousands of dollars for a foreign woman to read lines aloud from a textbook (which I was perfectly capable of reading myself... with a much higher rate of comprehension, mind you) in her broken English. There wasn't ever a moment where we had any hands on learning (where we would actually touch a computer during class) during the short amount of time I was enrolled in that course either... which was something I had been used to while studying other programming languages. I should have just stuck with it, but I was rebellious and had a serious problem with authority back then. You know.... "I won't be part of the system" and all that. It was a very expensive waste, having such a superiority complex. Anyway... my userpage is old and outdated, so don't form any notions about how much of an insufferable know-it-all prick I am. I've pretty much "grown up" since I created the page... but thanks for reading just the same. -Rob^talk 03:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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Journal-article title

Regarding [this edit] of yours, when I look at doi:10.1080/01635581.2016.1224366, I see an article entitled "Sucralose Non-Carcinogenicity: A Review of the Scientific and Regulatory Rationale". Are you seeing something other than that? DMacks (talk) 20:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

The issue is that the discovery of sucralose-6-acetate during metabolization is inconsistent with prior claims.

"Two acetylated sucralose biotransformation products were found in urine and feces of rats dosed with sucralose (Bornemann et al. Citation2018), and this finding is inconsistent with the historical claim that sucralose is stable and excreted unchanged (i.e., not metabolized) in the intestine." doi:10.1080/10937404.2023.2213903

As I am sure you are aware, a person making a negative claim cannot logically prove nonexistence. This later, and more recent study has simply discovered something that had yet to be discovered. Robert M Johnson (talk) 06:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

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