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Karl Ferris

Glad to be of help. When I have a moment I will take a look at the draft article and see if I can help with it. As for the copyright issue, that's not one of my strong areas on WP. I think there is a process (the "OTRS") whereby the copyright owner can e-mail the Foundation releasing images to be used on WP. However, as all contributions to WP are covered by the GFDL, I am not sure that that would be sufficient for them to be used in an article on WP. Take a look at WP:OTRS#Contacting OTRS. – ukexpat (talk) 20:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright is probably one of the most difficult aspects of Wikipedia, and I have no real professional knowledge in this field, but I've picked up a fair bit here and there. I'll start by pointing out something that's at the top of every page here: "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia". The word free was deliberately chosen for both its meanings, colloquially referred to as "free as in speech, and free as in beer", or gratis vs. libre. That means that content on Wikipedia isn't just free of charge, but licensed in a way that allows freedom for people to reuse and modify its content with few restrictions - the main license, used for all text and some images, is the GFDL.

As a result of that, Wikipedia wants to have no, or minimal, content that isn't free - known, appropriately, as "non-free content" or "fair use content" since it is only used under fair use provisions. The "fair use" restrictions on Wikipedia, however, are even stricter than those required by US law, and are listed at WP:NFCC.

So, when it comes to images, either it has to be released under a free license (e.g. GFDL, some of the Creative Commons licenses, public domain) or it requires a free-use rationale, a justification of why its use in a particular article enhances a reader's understanding of that article, while not infringing on the creator's copyrights. Because of the requirement that content can be copied and modified by anyone, it is not sufficient to obtain permission "for use on Wikipedia", and even permission for "non-commercial use" or "prohibiting derivative works". So, unless you can convince Mr Ferris to apply a CC-BY-SA license to one of his works, you're stuck with the fair use option. If, on the other hand, he is amenable to such a license, then you can upload the image to Wikimedia Commons (which will allow it to be accessed instantly by all Wikimedia projects, including the various language Wikipedias) and he can send an email to the Commons OTRS in which he verifies his authorship of the work and the license he agrees to (that page should contain some standard email wordings to help with that).

Now, as to how you upload an image. Your account must be autoconfirmed, which currently happens when it is four days old and has ten edits (you're about 3 edits off, I think). You then look at the sidebar on the left of the page, and click on "Upload file" and follow the instructions there. Then, on the image page, you add the fair use rationale (either WP:FUR or WP:FURG has some templates that can be used), and add the image to the article, which in the simplest case is done with the wikicode [[Image:Filename.ext]], with more detailed instructions at Wikipedia:Extended image syntax.

There are a lot of relevant pages in the Editor's index if you want to take a look there. Hope that helps, Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 01:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the recent message on my talk page. The message that you saw means that the creation of a page with that name has been protected by an admin, so an admin will have to unprotect it. However, I took a look at the article in your sandbox and I don't think it's quite ready yet. I will leave you another message here later with a few suggestions and also see what I can do to Wikify the draft article further. – ukexpat (talk) 20:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with this - anything you might do to make it look/read in a more "Wikified" way would be appreciated. Since I can't include images on the site due to copyright concerns, can we link from the article to images of his that I have on my site, or Karl's site? Otherwise, we'll leave it in its currently unillustrated form. Looking forward to your update. THANKS - Rockpop (talk) 21:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Saw your recent message -- I need a few more days, should be able to look at it by the end of the weekend. – ukexpat (talk) 23:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Re images - there is no way to link to images on your site and have them display in the article. The only way to do that is to upload the images to English Wikipedia using the upload link in the toolbox to the left. If copyright is an issue, Karl will have to send an e-mail from his e-mail address to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL. That will be recorded by the foundation and the images once uploaded to WP will be tagged accordingly. Let me know if you need more help with this. – ukexpat (talk) 15:30, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

<---outdent. Sorry for not getting to this, busy in real life. Probably best to just create the article as it is now and then we can work on it when created. – ukexpat (talk) 18:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

To unprotect the page you will have to make a request at: Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for unprotection. – ukexpat (talk) 00:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Despite the message at WP:RUP I still cannot edit/create the page so I am following up with the admin who unprotected. Will let you know when I hear back. Stay tuned! BTW I am not an admin, just a workaday editor...  – ukexpat (talk) 19:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

OK success! Karl Ferris is now unprotected so we can go ahead and create the article. We can do this one of two ways - you can copy and paste the content from your user sub-page to Karl Ferris or I can move the page. Let me know how you want to proceed and we can get rolling! - ukexpat (talk) 19:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done, see Karl Ferris. – ukexpat (talk) 23:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:KarlFerris-Portrait-web.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:KarlFerris-Portrait-web.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 05:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello - this image was uploaded to be used with an article on Karl Ferris that is currently being reviewed/updated by one of your admins, so PLEASE DO NOT DELETE this. It was given to me by the subject of the photograph - photographer Karl Ferris - to be used to illustrate this new article. Not sure if I made that clear in the uploading process - this is the first article I'm authoring - so if I need to re-upload it and tag it differently somehow, please let me know. THANKS - Mike GRockpop (talk) 17:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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ukexpat (talk) 20:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Images

Sorry for taking a while to reply. What you need to do is forward the correspondence to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. If you'd prefer then I'm quite happy to work through that with him if you wanted to put me in touch via email. I will send you an email now (as well as leaving this message). --Errant ^(chat!) 23:54, 17 February 2012 (UTC)