RollerBooger
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editSwayze lists Anderson in the cast of Skatetown, U.S.A. in his autobiography, which is cited in the article. As for this edit, http://wwwdb.oscars.org:8100/servlet/impc.DisplayCredits?vetted=T&primekey_in=1999090818:30:3787-167325 says nothing about "official complete cast list incl. uncredited roles." Please stop removing thoroughly cited content from the article (and moreover, this action is the only thing in your contribution history). If you don't stop, you'll be blocked for disruption and likely vandalism. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I recently watched a poor version of this movie on YouTube and couldn't find Anderson.
She's defiantly not the girl (uncredited girlfriend?) with her arms wrapped around Ace in the lounge area.
Have you seen this movie? If so, can you please tell me exactly where does Anderson appear and what is she wearing?
As you well know, 1970s movies are known for short credit listings and Oscars.org is an excellent source to find uncredited small roles in movies.
Here's an example, Magnum Force (1973), it has long cast list of uncredited roles, including memorable ones like "Man at Mailbox", "Blonde by Pool", "Nude Girl" and "Nude Boy".
- RollerBooger
- Swayze lists her as in the movie, on page 74 of his autobiography, which is cited in the article. So does allmovie.com along with many other sources. Swayze should remember her, she sits next to him, playing his character's girlfriend, in a number of scenes. Given the movie has never been released on VHS or DVD, the only copies floating around are quite murky and YouTube videos tend to be small. You may want to find a clearer copy of the movie, it's her, the copy I've watched (much bigger than the one on YouTube) clearly shows that it's her. Moreover she has a few lines and it's her voice. The girl he skates with later is not Anderson, though, that's April Allen. However, that doesn't matter, the credit is cited to three sources in the article, see WP:V. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Here's Ace in the lounge area with his uncredited girlfriend with her arms around him. Are you saying she's Anderson?
(cued at 6:11) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOjfQ2UW_VE&NR=1#t=6m11s
(cued at 2:31) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x5RL5KJ_NE#t=2m31s
A clear pic, girls from left to right, Susan, Allison, and what looks like Ace's uncredited girlfriend. Are you saying she's Anderson?
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3624/skatetown.jpg
There's also other websites which do not have Anderson listed.
Either the Oscars.org list is incomplete (which BTW has Ace's gang members also listed) or there's a mistake in the Swayze autobiography.
I'm not saying this particular autobiography is wrong, but these kind of books are known for small honest mistakes and bold face lies for various reasons, including some rewritten by others, or ghost written with audio tapes as reference, etc. A small trivial matter like this can easily go by unnoticed.
When the movie was released in 1979, Anderson was still a cast member of Little House on the Prairie, and was nominated for an Emmy the year before, and won a Daytime Emmy in 1980.
- RollerBooger
- Thanks for talking about this with me. As it happens, lots of folks thought Greg Bradford was Mark Hamill. I think somewhere along the way, the same thing happened with April Allen, in some scenes she kinda sorta looks like Melissa Sue Anderson and moreover Allen wasn't even credited in the movie. The lack of clean, licenced release copies on DVD (or even VHS), owing I believe to music rights expenses, hasn't helped, given this movie doesn't get seen all that much. I now agree with you that Swayze's autobiography could be (and likely is) mistaken, along with the other sources which claim Anderson was in the movie. It looks to me as though this mistaken "uncredited credit" may have been floating about since the movie was released and that whoever helped work on Swayze's book picked up the mistake. I won't get into the original research which has led me to agree with you, but I don't think Anderson's name should be in this article.
- Once the editing protection (which I think was put on mistakenly and which, although I'm an admin, I can't turn off myself because I've been "involved" in the content of the article) has been lifted, which one way or another will be very soon, I'll take her name out. You could also do this yourself, but one reason I was worried about your edits was that, technically, you were breaking citation links, only because you haven't edited here much before, I think. So if you do get to it first, those have to be handled carefully (again, it's a technical thing, otherwise not a big deal though).
- Keep in mind (only so you know), one can also discuss this at Talk:Skatetown, U.S.A.. Gwen Gale (talk) 10:51, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've removed all references to Melissa Sue Anderson from the article. Thanks again. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:21, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
last warning
editIf you vandalize Skatetown, U.S.A. or any other article again, you will be blocked. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
As I am another administrator, I am taking the unusual step of striking the above warning, as it was entirely inappropriate and Gwen is not entitled to block you as you are in a content dispute with him (and your edits were a content dispute, not vandalism). However, please note both our policies on edit warring and the three-revert rule; I will be placing a templated warning below to describe them more in depth. Further edit warring on your part (or Gwen's) will likely involve a block. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:22, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Skatetown, U.S.A.. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:22, 2 October 2010 (UTC)