Ron Vos

Hello, Ron Vos! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Boing! said Zebedee 05:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images • create your first article Intuitive guide to Wikipedia • Article Creation Wizard Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons List of policies • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism • List of guidelines Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General • Spam • Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Hi Ron. Your recent edits are very welcome, but I hope you don't mind me offering a few suggestions. Generally, Wikipedia article changes shouldn't be left in an obviously unfinished state, because it is a live encyclopedia that people are using all the time (though in a sense, Wikipedia articles are always unfinished). If other editors see unfinished changes they are very likely to finish/move/correct, or even revert them. So if we make small edits, what we should really do is Preview them and not actually submit them until they are finished - until they are in the correct format and location, for example.

If we want to make larger edits that we cannot complete quickly, it's best to do the edits elsewhere and save them, and only submit them when we have been able to finish them. What some people do is copy the article text to a word processor, and work on it until they're happy with it - perhaps occasionally pasting it back into Wikipedia to Preview it (but not submit it) and see how it's going. But what many pefer (I do) is to create a User page - in this case you could create User:Ron Vos/Myrtos, copy the original Myrtos article there, and then you have all the time you need to work on it before you resubmit it to the original article. When you're happy, go back to the original article and check if there have been any other changes since you started, and update your copy if necessary. Then paste in your whole new text, Preview it, and submit it as a finished article. (And you can request your User:Ron Vos/Myrtos page is then deleted - just blanking the page should bring it to the attention of an admin who will deal with it).

So when you say "Tonight I will start to expand it and write the history section, it may take several hours, so please, with all respect, be patient", I'd suggest you write it all offline (using a word processor?) and only actually add it to the article when you're happy it's finished and ready for people to read - and I look forward to reading it myself.

If there's anything I can help with, please do feel free to ask on my Talk page and I'll be happy to do what I can. Again, welcome to Wikipedia - I hope your stay here is long and enjoyable.

Boing! said Zebedee 05:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

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Myrtos

Hi Ron, that's nice work. I've done a bit of copy-editing on it for layout, grammar, spacing etc - but you made that easy as it was pretty good to start with. Just a few things...

• References need to be links to or descriptions of actual sources, so instead of saying "Research: Ron Vos" you would need to refer to the actual sources of your research - see WP:OR. I've removed those references now. If you can find any online references you can cite, that would be great - I'll have a look for some myself when I have time.
• Though the "Greek English" spelling may indeed be be 'Mirtos', the generally accepted spelling in English appears to be split between that and 'Myrtos' (Google finds slightly more occurrences of 'Myrtos' than 'Mirtos'). Other Wikipedia articles use 'Myrtos', so as a precedent has been set I think we really need to standardise on that.
• Traffic stats are nice - once people see someone is making changes to an article, they'll read it :-)

All in all, it's a good article. Boing! said Zebedee 15:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I've edited the Traffic section now - it was good and didn't need much work. Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 04:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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