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Thank you! - fixed now. Roy Lewis (talk) 13:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Roy. Just a courtesy message to say I have removed the social media links from Rebecca Newman and RNLI as they are links to avoid in Wikipedia. See WP:LINKSTOAVOID. Also, I should say that many well-known people have raised funds for the RNLI and cannot all be named, so don't be surprised if other editors feel Rebecca does not warrant inclusion. Hope this helps, and I too hope you enjoy being a Wikipedian. Regards. Tony Holkham (Talk) 19:36, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

OK! - the Facebook links were trustworthy and the only refs to those details I could find.

Still, if there is a blanket rule . . .

I did think for some time before adding Rebecca to the RNLI page. There are a good number of relevant considerations. Well! - I came to one conclusion. It is perfectly possible that the keeper of the article may come to another.

Roy Lewis (talk) 19:47, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Note - there is no such thing as "keeper of the article". Articles we start (such as you did with Rebecca Newman) are never "ours" but can be edited by anyone, hopefully for the better. Most editors retain a keen interest in many articles (I have 94 on my watch list), but they are never "owned" by any individual editor. It's a fundamental principle. Tony Holkham (Talk) 21:35, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

For sure. That is why I used "keeper", to indicate someone who sees it as his job to monitor changes, rather than "owner".

The point is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia where all information should be reliably sourced (a hopeless task, I'll admit, but we do try); it is not a collection of links - that's better fulfilled by an internet search. Have a look at Wikipedia:External links for guidance. They are not rules, but a generally-accepted standard practice. There are more guidelines than anyone could hope to take in, but this one is one of the more important, I think. Let me know if I can help with anything.

Also, if you indent new comments on a talk page with increasing numbers of colons, conversations are easier to follow. All the best. Tony Holkham (Talk) 19:59, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Gotcha. But what a newbie sees is Wikipedia advice saying something very close to (cannot find it just now - certainly External links is no help): if you cannot supply a reference for it, do not include it. And that is not very different from your: all information should be reliably sourced. I have been referencing things that seem to me obviously so, entirely uncontroversial, or, as you suggest, within reach of a simple web search. - I suppose that if I find them and include them, any reader is spared the need to make the extra effort.

Roy Lewis (talk) 20:49, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

It's a discussion point often entered into. I can only suggest looking at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for more info (and lots of it). See also my added comment above. Tony Holkham (Talk) 21:35, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

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