User talk:Ryan Postlethwaite/archive8

Hey

Did User:24.136.230.38 ever say what his account was now? I agree with him being admin material, and would be swift to support him </random> Anyway, any idea on how to find out?--Whstchy 20:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me--Whsitchy 17:36, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Insensitive

I think your comments on PalestineRemembered (talk · contribs)'s talk page were quite rude and insensitive: [1] Don't you think that it is normal for someone who was blocked for over a week for doing nothing blockable would be interested in getting an explanation for that? How exactly do his comments on the page of an arbcomm opened to deal with the false accusation against him constitute "trolling"? I think you owe him an apology. Tiamut 23:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

No I don't, he's just causing a stir now. By all means he can attempt to show on the workshop or evidence page that the block was unfair, whilst editing the encyclopedia, not just kick up a fuss. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

My apologies for butting in here, but I think the commment was worded perfectly ~ Anthøny 20:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Likewise, actually. - Alison ☺ 21:27, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

User talk:AGK

Thanks for the support above ~ Anthøny 20:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Convincing.

File:AH! MOTHERLAND!.gif

For being convincing enough to make an anonymous editor create an account Acalamari 23:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I am awarding this to you Ryan, because according to WP:PUA, this is the appropriate award to give to someone who is convincing enough to make an IP address sign up. As a member of the "Users who have made an IP address sign up" club, I welcome you to the club. :) Acalamari 23:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Assignments

They're going great! Extra credit, huh? Sounds like fun! :) On the essay, do you have a length preference? *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 01:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

We'll continue here then! Length wise - well that's upto you - just get all your opinions into it, that's the most important thing - we can discuss it on the tak page when your done (I checked it a couple of days ago and it looked good!). Ryan Postlethwaite 01:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Really? I feel special... Question: how can I contribute to the template namespace? (On a random note, my edit count recently reached 5000!) *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 01:06, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmm template namspace - I'll have to have a think on that one! If you check my contribs - I've got very few template contribs - I've created a few for WP:RFCN, WP:UAA (which I created (showing off!)) and WP:CHU, but it's not a major consideration for RfA - some people are great at templates, most are crap (like me!). Have you got any areas you'd like to create templates for? Oh yeah - essay was going very very well - you got most of what I wanted to see inside an hour! Ryan Postlethwaite 01:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Honestly? This essay is actually decent? Now I feel very special! I can't believe you created WP:RFCN and WP:UAA (I do believe you, though); they're very successful in my standards. As for the template stuff, I enjoy programming, which has led me to learn advanced parser functions on the Wiki. I don't mind what specific area I create the template for, as long as I get to stretch my brain a bit to accomplish some tasks. :) *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 01:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Just created UAA, not RFCN. Well, I've been thinking of a few templates that need creating, so I'll get back to you tomorrow when I decide exactly what is required. You have a think of them over night, and we'll reconvene tomorrow (sorry - I'm almost asleep now!) Ryan Postlethwaite 01:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The "Acalamari/Natalie Erin" troll.

I noticed that you were online, so I decided to ask you this. Ryan, would it be possible to block Back to the Noble Ocean? I am 100% sure this is the same user who vandalized Natalie Erin's and mine user pages about our love. I sure it's them because of this edit, and the user's username: the vandal likes boating and water for some reason, and creates usernames to do with boating and water. I hate to assume bad faith like this, but I am sure that is the troll. Acalamari 01:45, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, you're welcome! At the moment, you and I are the only editors I know who have convinced an IP to join, but I am sure there are more users out there who have done what you did the other day. Anyway Ryan, thanks for blocking that troll. I think I'd better keep an eye for Acalamari/Phaedriel-WikiCrush trolling/vandalism now. Acalamari 02:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Ryan, time for a chat? Are you ever on IRC or do you use MSN or something? WjBscribe 02:37, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll attempt to log onto IRC #Wikipedia (might not work so I appologise in advance) Ryan Postlethwaite 02:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Is it really Boswell ?

This is your adoptee Chemical Engineer from Thornbury speaking. For some reason I haven't been able to log in since I got a message about the strenght of my password. My password was weak as .... I could create a new identity. Any ideas? Regards The real Boswell, 58.107.202.74 09:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello Ryan, I have taken your advice and am now Boswell2 with a new strong password and a registered email address. I have redone my user page and am still happy for you to adopt me. Can you also send me a link to the password cracker business. Good luck with your exams. The user formerly known as Boswell. Boswell2 11:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Question

Do you think Pascal's RfA could be snowed as success? I mean, the guy has 94 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral. I think he's got the mop.--Whsitchy 13:45, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

You can't just snowball close an RfA I'm affraid - it has to run for the full 7 days just in case something happens (although I do agree in this case it seems clear!). Only a 'crat can close RfA's anyway so I'm poweress :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 13:50, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, they snowed this RfA yesterday, as a non successful attempt. That's why I asked. --Whsitchy 13:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, admins can snow close an RfA is it hasn't a chance of passing, but successfull RfA's have to run the full course I'm affraid - it's to give everyone a chance to give their view. Ryan Postlethwaite 14:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah... I see. Makes sense.--Whsitchy 14:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

rfarb

Thanks for your input in the recent rfarb against me! It would appear to be a great analysis of the situation. Thanks again! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem Chris - it's aways good to help a mate in trouble (although I use the term trouble in this case very loosely!) --Ryan Postlethwaite 14:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Ryan. I'd like to thank you for your support of my RfA. It was closed at surprising 75/0/0, so I'm an admin now. MaxSem 22:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, it was certainly deserved. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Peacent's Rfa

Hello, Ryan. Thank you very much for your kind support in my recent Rfa, it succeeded! I feel thrilled and hope to live up to your expectations. If you see me mess up, feel free to give me a dressing down =) Oh, and good luck with your exams. See you! PeaceNT 04:54, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Edit war

Tell me where in WP:EW it says that 2 reverts (non-vandalism reverts) is an edit war. A•N•N•A hi! 22:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

First line, "An edit war is when two or more contributors repeatedly revert one another's edits to an article" - two reverions = repeated, hence an edit war. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:39, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Woah. Didn't realise soliciting unbiased opinion was disruptive. Removed my message. *shrug* — Nearly Headless Nick ^{C} 17:34, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

NO WAI. Review WP:CANVASS. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{C} 17:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Calm down, I was just giving my 2 cents! I just get the impression over the past 2 days that you are determined to see Ramas arrow desysopped, and the only way to do that is on the arbitration pages - on AN, you were leading people to your evidence and therefore your personal view on the matter - that's why I see it as canvassing, and it's certainy not unbiased with your active role in the case. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Er, I am as calm as I could be. :) I have provided links to the three pages, and the community can comment without being biased. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{C} 17:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

A suggestion

Hi, I noticed you blocked Fckn pltgy (talk · contribs) as account creation blocked as the name clearly attacks another user: Pilotguy (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). In the future you may be interested to use {{UsernameBlocked-vandal}} instead of {{usernameblocked}} as the latter encourages the user to create a new account when this is not the case. Thanks, GDonato (talk) 22:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I've been away from my computer since I blocked Fckn pltgy and I've been thinking about the template I used, I must say I've never used UsernameBlocked-vandal, I always assumed that it was used for username blocks where the user has also vandalised which wasn't the case here - but after looking at the tempate, I can see that it's not just used for vandalism. Thanks for the info, I'll certainly use it in the future. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:14, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the name is confusing and it probably needs at least some sort of protection if it has a high potential to be damaged. GDonato (talk) 22:17, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

RFA

Ryan, thanks so much for aggressive support for me in the RFA. I am grateful for your response, and it really means a lot to be appreciated. Thanks again! hmwithtalk 15:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congratulations on your 10,000th edit! *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 18:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Problem?

Thanks for giving me the new name Sesshomaru. Only two concerns:

1. How can I keep my talk page from User talk:I'm anonymous?

1. What's with the User talk:Sesshomaru (usurped) being the page name for User talk:Sesshomaru?

Whenever possible, contact me and/or fix whatever needs to be fixed. Sayonara. Lord Sesshomaru

Fixed

Fixed. Actually Nichalp did this renaming not Secretlondon. It happened because the automatic move of pages following renames doesn't delete pages. So if there's already content (e.g. the redirect left by the rename of the target account) the pages aren't moved. Sometimes the crats sort it but if they don't its something that helpers (who are admins) can do. WjBscribe 18:42, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

User:SarahPostlethwaite

New user account - relative of yours? RJASE1 ^Talk 19:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Nope, not that I'm aware of!! I think I'll welcome her :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 19:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

IRC

I am Ryanpostlethwait on freenode. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

You should now be able to get into #wikipedia-en-admins. Message me if you have trouble... WjBscribe 23:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Drop by IRC if you have a sec. WjBscribe 22:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm in #wikipedia-en Ryan Postlethwaite 22:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ryan. Are you possibly on the admin's channel? I got on once before but can't remember how to get back on!! Can you help? - Alison ☺ 22:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC) (embarrassed :) )

Thank you

Thanks for the revert on my talk page. Cheers, Sean William 16:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

No probs ;-) Ryan Postlethwaite 17:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

User talk:WikiPiss

Might be an idea to give him a talkpage block; it's pretty clear he's only here to piss in our pool anyway. Which is mildly apt, given his name... HalfShadow 19:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Yep, just seen, I've protected the talk page [2] - cheers, Ryan Postlethwaite 19:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

{{Usernameblocked-vandal}}

I have rewritten this template to make it clearer and have made other changes but I think it should possibly also be renamed to make its use clearer, can you think of any good names? I was thinking Template:Usernameblocked-badfaith or Template:UsernameHardBlocked since it would be used with account creation disabled. If you do rename it can you update this for me too? Thanks a lot, GDonato (talk) 19:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

After much effort, I've finally done it! I've left the redirect in place for the old timers! Ryan Postlethwaite 19:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Creating 2 double redirects in the process ;-) (honestly you should read the move sucess page!) Don't worry, I fixed them. Thanks for your help, GDonato (talk) 20:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

• It was worth it. GDonato (talk) 22:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Ta

Cheers fella for the revert, obviously I'm doing summat right. ^Khukri 19:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem, it was my pleasure squire ;-) Ryan Postlethwaite 19:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Really?

Well, I don't know if you came to that belief independently or just found Slim's repeated attacks on me persuasive, but you are entitled to believe I'm some horrid vengeful person if you would like. Of course, I agree wholeheartedly the attempted perma-block has nothing to do with admin abuse, and I don't know who you think is alleging that. I sympathize with PalestineRemembered because if some respected editor came up with some crazy half-truth to try and get me banned tomorrow, I'd want someone sympathizing with me. I'm sorry if you can't ever foresee yourself in similar straits. -- Kendrick7^talk 19:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Ryan,

Just wondering what the status is on the K2 Network page. I hope your exams went well. :)

Xandamere 22:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppets are people too

Yes, this is the reincarnation of Uga Man but I come with a different message. I am sorry to you and to the entire wikipedia community because I now see that what I did was wrong. It was all just immaturity on my part and I have to learn from experiences like this to grow up. I have no plans to destroy wikipedia and I hope that no one else does. I wish everybody here good luck and I hope that the growth of wikipedia continues. Just remember that sockpuppets are people too, they have family, friends, and feelings just like the rest of you. We aren't criminals or thugs but just misguided individuals that want to stir up problems and cause confrontation. I apologize whole heartedly and just wish that I will get forgiveness even though I don't expect it.--209.244.187.183 04:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: nudge

I took care of it. The only reason that I didn't sooner is that I wasn't home. Thanks for reminding me! hmwithtalk 05:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Good luck with exams!

Hi Ryan :) Noticed you were busy studying for exams (the WikiBreak template on your userpage) so I'm just stopping by to say good luck with them, I'm sure you'll do great and dont forget this place when on your break, (by the way incase you forgot its me: Tellyaddict but with my new account). Good luck!! --The Sunshine Man 10:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, can I kindly ask you what you think of my new userpage, is the green to in your face. The Sunshine Man 18:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

User:209.11.242.250

Ryan; first of all, my apologies for overlooking your message about this user. I have recently been away for a short time, and I think that your note must have been submerged among others.

As to the actual subject matter of your comment, it is fair to say that this user, while only making a few edits, has shown no urge to edit sensibly. If you would like to go to his block log, you will in fact see that my block has been removed by another admin, and one of five years substituted. --Anthony.bradbury 17:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

The admin in question was User:Zzuuzz, who usually knows what he's doing.--Anthony.bradbury 17:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Anthony, the problem is that IP addresses can switch to different people, you talk about one person not editing constructively, but we don't know it's just one person, it could switch to another user tomorrow and they find themselves blocked, we have to be very conservative with our IP blocks - 24 hours wherever possible unless it's in extreme circumstances. In reply to Zzuuzz's block increase - well that wasn't for vandalism, that was because it was an open proxy, and open proxies aren't allowed to edit on wikipedia - that's why it was increased, I'm not sure if you can tell which IP is an open proxy and which one isn't - I know for sure I can't. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

No, certainly I cannot tell who is an open proxy, but the fact remains that this IP address is blocked for five years. You say that IP users should be blocked only for very short times; but Ryan, if you watch, you see IP addresses being blocked very commonly, by experienced admins, for a week, a month, three months or occasionally six months. I have often picked up a report on WP:AIV, checked on the user, gone to block him/her for a short time and found that User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me or someone has put a long block on ahead of me. And they can always request unblock. So far, none of the users whom I have blocked have done so. And I do mean none. I will take notice of what you say; I am just pointing out that not everyone appears to take the same line. But I thank you for your comments, which I will continue to take notice of.--Anthony.bradbury 20:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Look

Manchester is a bent deprived place, let them come to Sunderland instead. Manchester is a town full of Man U glory hunters, which is so sad. Please reconsider everything for sunderland. 217.43.213.72 20:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Manu glory hunters maybe, but that's where it's happening I'm affraid, but feel free to organise your own sunderland meetup. Ryan Postlethwaite 20:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC

maybe but I would need another wikipedian to organise it, sunderland is free from gun crimes, and I will be sure to look through the Wikipedians in tyne and wear. and the wikipedians in county durham. Just so the city can get some credit. I got an email off Jimbo too. 217.43.213.72 20:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

You got an email off Jimbo? Interesting, what about? I can assure you Manchester is safe enough, but if you really want to organise one, I don't mind helping you - might help if you signed in though. Ryan Postlethwaite 20:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I never created an account, and I am not really keen on meeting up, I just want to help organise one, and such, if a page could be created called Wikipedia:meetup/Sunderland thanks. 217.43.213.72 20:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup/Sunderland now created for you :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 21:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Holy crap, a meetup in Manchester? Why wasn't I told? Will ^{(We're flying the flag all over the world)} 20:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Entrez! Ryan Postlethwaite 20:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I can't do bars though. I'm not old enough to drinkez les beers. (Is there an age limit for meetups anyway?) Will ^{(We're flying the flag all over the world)} 21:03, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Awwww, well the main thing we're doing is going for a chinese, you could come to that? No age limit at all. Ryan Postlethwaite 21:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Probably might be able to come along, but only on the Saturday - I have a GCSE exam on the Friday :( Will ^{(We're flying the flag all over the world)} 21:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for creating this page. I will pull wikipedians in from Category:Wikipedians in County Durham and Category:Wikipedians in Tyne and Wear, cheers anyway. 217.43.213.72 21:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Posted 17 messages for the meetup. Should get some result. 217.43.213.72 21:17, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

E-mail

Ryan, you have e-mail. :) --R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 00:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Hi, sorry for the slow reply. Haven't been logged in for a while. Thanks for your note. As it happens, I'm more workmanlike than "civil". I think the latter is all too often a cloak for nastiness. Good intent counts for more with me than a silver tongue. Also, some can take rougher handling than others--I don't see anything much wrong with talking to people in the way they feel comfortable with. Having bystanders bitch about your tone is annoying, in itself quite uncivil. The IRC thing? People gossip on IRC; they point fingers and slag others off. There's a tendency when someone is on the outer in IRC for participants to feel it's okay to badmouth them. When someone I don't know makes some comment or other about me, it's often because they read something on IRC. Grace Note 03:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

LOL

Sorry, I couldn't hold it inside me anymore! NikoSilver 10:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Yep, my spellings crap :-)! Editing other editors comments though? Should really press the block button! :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 11:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

It was a matter of correct spelling principal. NikoSilver 11:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least my spelling makes it onto your userpage! Ryan Postlethwaite 11:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

re: Warriors for Innocence

Yeah, thank you so much for paying attention to my edit summary. Why delete it off hand? it is noteable, I have already been discussing it with other admins as to how to make that clear, and you go ahead and WP:BOLD while at the same time not checking the facts. Thank you so much for your consideration and thinking. WookMuff 21:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem whatsoever, less of the sarcastic attitude though please. In case you didn't realise, I read the talk page of the artice, and in fact - I didn't delete it. If you get some sources for the article, I'll undelete it for you if you ask me nicely, but until then, it stays deleted. Ryan Postlethwaite 21:04, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Why should I be less sarcastic? and If you didn't delete it, how can you undelete it? and If I ask nicely? How about no? Why should I ask nicely? I asked nicely if people would please not delete the article for a second time without first giving me a chance to get my references in order. Look how well that worked out. You don't appreciate my sarcasm, well I don't appreciate your belittling "ask nicely". I shouldn't have to ask someone nicely to revert an unnecessary deletion when I clearly stated that I just needed a little time and indeed, if you looked at MY talk page you would have seen I was already discussing this with an Admin. WookMuff 01:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Nope, there's no admins on your talk page that your discussing with - you must be mistaken into thinking that they are. If I delete an artice, I can undelete it as well - it comes with the job, it's not lost forever. But unfortunately, since you've persisted to be rude, you've given up that ability to ask me to undelete the page for you. It was certainly not an unnecessary deletion, it meets out speedy deletion criteria of not showing any notability and it doesn't have any reliable sources in. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

How have I persisted in being rude? By not dropping to my knees and begging your forgiveness? Sorry, I didn't realise that wikipedia demanded obeisance from its contributers to the almighty admins. And excuse me, I thought the person who previously deleted me was an admin, so there you go. Also, Wikipedia:Notability#Articles not satisfying the notability guidelines, aren't you supposed to check for sources yourself before summarily deleting? C|Net's News.com.com is a real site, and I believe that they count for notability. I will apologize for my sarcasm, but if you can say with a straight face you weren't being rude then I will be surprised. WookMuff 02:53, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, jimfbleak IS an admin, so there you go... I guess YOU must have been mistaken. WookMuff 02:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks for that. It seems they vandalized User talk:Darthgriz98 (probably because they saw her message on my talk page) as well. However, this is a great edit summary! :) Acalamari 01:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, saw the edit summary - blocked for 2 weeks! Ryan Postlethwaite 01:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I saw that, thanks! Acalamari 01:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Incomplete AfD nomination

Hey Ryan, what can be done (if anything) about this page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Smart (abductee)? I think it exists solely for trolling and personal attacks on Newyorkbrad Lipsticked Pig 04:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, it's been nominated properly now. Lipsticked Pig 06:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Comment

Ryan, I really am an admin (check my logs). I have some concerns about your comments about WfI deletion. It is for you to decide whether this article is notable, but your criteria should not include whether you have been asked nicely. Nor should you decide on the basis of whether the request is rude or not, it's the article that is the subject of assessment, not the editor. In my view, making decisions based on personal issues rather than content undermines your own position. jimfbleak 05:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Mi sombrero del idiota!

Yeah, sorry about my sarcasm and that, I just was very annoyed to wake up to having to defend the article for a second time, especially without much sleep. Bygones. WookMuff 09:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Good good, at least we've sorted it out - let's hope we never have anything to disagree about again :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 09:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

We've all been there - and your user page picture is a fine example to us all - mine is an insect, how sad is that? jimfbleak 09:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

You have mail

Ryan, I have e-mailed you.--Anthony.bradbury 21:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

And you have mail back :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 21:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

You have mail again. DevAlt 08:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind responding to my mail please? DevAlt 19:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Golden Rule, Dev. Golden Rule...Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 20:20, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

LOL

Haha...I love the picture Ryan. Work hard, play hard man lol. Jmlk17 18:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah well, we've all got to do something fun once in a while - and once my degree finishes on monday, I'll be playing even harder! Ryan Postlethwaite 18:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Hah...awesome! Good luck buddy! Jmlk17 18:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

email

I have sent you an email.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 20:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

FPC

Something you might be Interested in.. :)..--Cometstyles 20:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Very amusing. Acalamari 20:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Like admin coach, like admin coachee... :) I feel like a movie star now! *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 20:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Closing RFAs

You just beat me to it - I'd just popped out to find the right tags. Oh well, thanks. Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

No probs, I wasn't sure if you were going to add the tags or not - maybe next time :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 22:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Chat

Could you be on IRC if you have a sec? WjBscribe 23:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

John celona

I saw that you blocked this user for 24 hours over his AfDs in response to the Shawn Hornbeck/Ben Ownby deletions. It may be nothing, but he reminds of a now indef banned user I dealt with on those articles (and several others). Tommypowell (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) engaged in an edit war against consensus over his desire to keep unnecessary personal information into articles of living minors who were victims of sex crimes. The majority of his edits prior to finding the Hornbeck/Ownby articles were to a porn star named Brent Corrigan who apparently appeared in some films before he was 18. He was blocked on February 7, though he stuck around and made some more comments on his now deleted talk page if memory serves. On February 11, John celona (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) started editing, and by May 1, he managed to find Brent Corrigan's article as well. You've seen his behavior in regards to the Hornbeck/Ownby deletions, and it is reminiscent of Tommypowell's tantrums in regards to the removal of birthdays. I could have an overactive imagination, but I can't help but think this is Tommypowell's reincarnation. I don't know if there's anything to be done at this point, as I'm pretty sure too much time has passed for a checkuser to be run. Still the pattern is odd, and I'm not sure how many editors are interested in both minor sex crime victims and underaged porn stars... actually, I don't want to know how many editors are into the two.

Anyway, I'm throwing this out there. Investigate if you think it warrants it, though I'm pretty sure this is the same guy. AniMate 01:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Mail

Ryan, I have e-mailed you once more.--Anthony.bradbury 19:17, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Is my new name ok?

The last one was way out of line sorry Mineralwaterisgreat 19:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

The edits I have made have been in the 100% interest of NPOV, the only person reverting them is a rabid "anti-fascist" troll who gives crooked sources and uses left wing rhetoric to describe the BNP. For example the term "radical right wing populism" was invented by the left to slur modern popular nationalist parties, and he insists that the BNP are fascist when the internal structure is decided democratically and their stated policy is to actually increase virtues of democracy when in power. His reasoning for his argument is "Nazi's pretended to be democratic too" which goes far enough to allow us to render his viewpoint as obsolete and hateful, along with giving a few sources written by left wingers 8 years ago 9who may have based their research on as little as a hunch). I support the BNP, but I'm not zealous enough to deny that they are politically far right and have a shady past. They deserve criticism somewhere in the article (or in another article dedicated to it) to reflect the heated modern opinions on them, but the relentless adding of a paragraph for any sort of 'scandal' involving the BNP or involving an idiot who associates himself with the BNP highlighted by Searchlight or UAF will end up with an article 10 times as long in a few years. Most of the article also just repeats itself. I am going to hopefully make large, sincere and healthy changes for the article, but I can't with people just reverting them to show their opinion on how bad/who the BNP are. Mineralwaterisgreat 20:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

The above comments referring to me are not acceptable. The user (who I suspect was banned yesterday for vandalism as User:86.146.242.233) has taken up where User:86.146.242.233 left off. He has only edited articles relating to the BNP and related articles on extreme right wing politics, and no others other than posting inappropriate comments on users' talk pages. His comments above about about me being a rabid anti-fascits troll who gives crooked sources are a good indication of where his sympathies lie. In fact, I have added 'fascist' to the info box for the BNP, providing three independent and reliable sources. His response is that he is not going to but no "god dam book", so his opinions of the refernces I have provided are hardly rational. I notice I am also called an idiot - hardly wikipedian diplomacy! None of his edits are substantiated, and indeed, are contrary to a broad consensus that has been painfully and occasionally heatedly reached over the last few months. This person wants the BNP article to be entirely favourable to the BNP, is not prepared to accept the need for citation (there is none), is reverting withour cause and generally vandalising the articll, for which, if it is the same person, he was banned yesterday. This person needs to be banned. Emeraude 21:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Just noticed he's already been banned. Emeraude 21:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey

I'm thinking a checkuser is in order for that IP that commented on Hwmith's (I know I spelt that wrong) AfD. What do you think? Whsitchy 01:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, Stupid of me to post this on your's and another admin's. Whsitchy 01:25, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey Ryan!

Caught ya fixing that nom :-) Does everything look okay to you on it? We're thinking of going live sometime today - Alison ☺ 01:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Open Proxies?

Hi Ryan, just wondering if you could answer this question?

How do admins find out if an IP address is an open proxy?

I've been looking at some blocked IP's which are proven to be open proxies via Category:Open proxies blocked on Wikipedia and I've looked at the DNS ad WHOIS information and also looked at some IP's which aren't open proxies on WHOIS etc and I cant see any difference in the information, I've looked everywhere and I cant seem to find out how admins know they are, do you know and could you tell me please. Cheers --The Sunshine Man 14:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Not all admins know when an IP is an open proxy and hen one isn't - unfortunatey I don't have a clue! But it's something I'm going to take a look at this week, so if I find out, I'll let you know! Ryan Postlethwaite 20:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)`

Best of luck!

As you go for that exam, I pray that success would be your second name. You worked so hard for it, so you deserve the greatest... And that's what you'll get! Best of luck, dear Ryan! Love, Phaedriel 15:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Administrator Reedy Boy taking off! Hello Ryan Postlethwaite, Thankyou for voting in my RfA. You will be pleased to know that it has been successful!! Meaning that I, Reedy Boy, am now an English Wikipedia Administrator. It passed with a suprising 47/0/0, and I really am grateful of all your support, and I hope that I live up to your high expectations! If there is anything I can do to help you out, please, do not hesitate to contact me! Yours, Reedy Boy 16:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Single-purpose account flooding of AfD discussion for Steve Gilliard

Hi, question: Seems like multiple SPA have been created to flood the discussion (with "Keep") for this AfD. I have no opionion whatsoever on the notablility of the article, but I added my observations as to the SPAs and I think the original nominator added the appropriate template (I think it's the "afdanons" template). Beyond doing that, is such activity considered to be so bad as to require admin intervention, or should I just leave it as is? Lipsticked Pig 18:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Interesting, it's looking fairly messy to be honest with you. I've contacted the nominator of the AfD to ask what he thinks about closing it s no consensus possible and re-running the AfD with semi-protection on so new users and IP's won't be able to comment on it. I'll keep you posted. Cheers, Ryan Postlethwaite 19:24, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm still learning here. Lipsticked Pig 19:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ryan, now I'd ask you to consider closing that AfD as consensus Keep, as leaving it open would only serve editors who wish to insult Naconkantari's judgement and motives. It's plain nasty. Lipsticked Pig 05:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:Trivia

Hi,

(Discussion continued from User talk:Mackensen.)

The reason I'm really opposed to the current wording of Template:Trivia is that it goes way beyond the guideline at WP:TRIVIA. The template mandates integration of the content into the main article or removal; the guideline says that trivia-section content would be better integrated into the main article, but (rightly) doesn't mandate removal of content merely because it's in a trivia section.

So, I think this goes way beyond a content issue, because the template mandates editor behavior, in a very improper way, namely that there's no policy or guideline mandating this behavior; it is a few editors who hate trivia sections, trying to chase them off Wikipedia. And the mass spamming of many thousands of articles with this tag is just defacing articles for no reason.

My analogy in the other thread was: If an editor with a bot spammed thousands of articles with a framed, colored template saying that Wikipedia bio articles should only be about dead people, then someone would take action to stop this, yes? I'm a little floored by the RFA statements that this is just a content issue. The template does not read like advice or like a pretty template to make the Dog articles more organized. It's trying to mandate editor behavior.

Thanks - Tempshill 22:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm leaving the Esperanza debate

Hi, Ryan. I just wanted to let you know that I'm leaving Wikipedia and, therefore, retiring from the EA debate. It's been a pleasure working with you, and I'd like to apologize for any rudeness I displayed towards you. You have no idea what's been going through my head.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 17:19, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I have. Which is why I left him a message in my edit summary. But even in his valedictory address there are snide comments I would rather not keep on my talkpage. DevAlt 17:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Torture

Way to be WP:BOLD. I think this guy has been dancing around a block for a long time. I strong support it that is for sure. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 18:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Cheers Chris for giving it the once over. He's just been cruising RFCN looking to get into a fight. I know some people have strong opinions of the username policy - but I doubt very much if this guy has even read it and when he couples the trolling with personal attacks.... Ryan Postlethwaite 18:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

You did well with the block. I don't see any reason to unblock, but anyway, we'll see what is said on the administrators' noticeboard. Acalamari 18:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

YechielMan's RFA

Thank you for participating in either of my unsuccessful requests for adminship. Although the experience was frustrating, it showed me some mistakes I was making, and I hope to learn from those mistakes.

Please take a few minutes to read User:YechielMan/Other stuff/RFA review and advise me how to proceed. Best regards. YechielMan 21:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:DENY - previous editor

• Indef please, Ryan. Self-confessed GNAA troll - Alison ☺ 23:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC) (busy w/JB socks)

now done, but is there some histroy behind it? (googled is and got some ovey hits) Ryan Postlethwaite 23:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

There is. Talk later ... busy here :) - Alison ☺ 23:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC) (see del history of GNAA and Gay Nigger Association of America)

huyh

Why were you licking a girl? WReform Group 00:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

she tastes nice. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:54, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Sugar and spice, perhaps? - Alison ☺ 00:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC) (licks self :) )

... and because he can, I suspect. Red-blooded male that he is - Alison ☺ 00:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Ryan might get to do that, but I, however, am about to be married, which means I have a leap over Ryan when it comes to relationships :) Who's attending the wedding? Acalamari 01:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Hehe

And being the extremely controversial admin that I am! The thought of going through RfA again gives me the jitters though :) Riana ⁂ 12:33, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Ryan, thanks for speedy deleting my RfA, I'm not trying to sound nasty/uncivil to the nominator but I have a really bad feeling that that account is a sockpuppet of User:Molag Bal, you may want to have a look at The ANI thread I posted and see what you think (I'm trying to AGF but it seems possible). Kindest Regards --The Sunshine Man 14:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Weelwar!

Grin - I reverted your reversion of your deletion as the previous deletion from the 29th of May did make sense - G1 was wrong this time, as the story seems real but Wikipedia does not seem the place for it. If anybody thinks otherwise I will defer to their jugdgement Agathoclea 15:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Good work! I was just redeleting, but couldn't because you'd already done it! Protected now anyway..... Cheers Ryan Postlethwaite 15:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the reverting vandalism on my user page,Regards-Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem, glad to be of service. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

GodGryffindor.

Bah! The real one would never vandalize! Acalamari 16:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

He he, I'm guessing their not the same person then! Ryan Postlethwaite 16:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

This reminds me of someone I was keeping an eye on a few month back - but it could be a coincidence Agathoclea 16:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

It was certainly someone that new what they were doing by the pages they found. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:54, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice Work

That was long overdue, thanks for stepping up and getting it done. RJASE1 ^Talk 22:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

My pleasure! Ryan Postlethwaite 22:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Award

Ryan; thank you. I am well aware that many admins and above, and even many editors who are not admins, are a loy more skilled in the ramifications of the project than I am. But extinguishing vandals is what I always wanted to do.--Anthony.bradbury 23:49, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

We're a community Tony, and no ones better than anyone else. You certainly are dedicated to the project, and I am still honoured to have nominated you. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

My RfA ...

Hi. Thanks for supporting my request for adminship. It was successful and I am now an admin. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Cheers, Black Falcon ^(Talk) 06:27, 6 June 2007 (UTC) By the way, is the type of "administrator work" noted on your userpage required of *all* administrators? I wasn't aware of it before, but I'm sure I'll somehow find the strenth to plow through. ;)

No, thank you

and why is it good to see me back? You don't know me. You wouldn't miss me. No need for empty compliments. --Nricardo 10:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page today. Chriswiki 12:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Penis size article

I think it is not fair that the "human penis size" article is only editable by administrators.

why not make it semi protection so that only people with 4+ days old accounts can edit it as this would stop vandalism effectively and give people a chance to contribute to wikipedia.

answer this as soon as you read it please....

--86.20.6.103 17:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for your concern 86.20.6.103, Human penis size is actually only semi protected at the moment, so anyone with a registered account over 4 days old can edit it, so might I suggest you create an account and wait 4 days? The article has has a lot of vandalism to it, that's why it's protected. Ryan Postlethwaite 18:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

But 4 days is too long to wait - it's imperative that I be able to immediately include comments about my friends' and acquaintances' penis sizes in the article!!! RJASE1 ^Talk 19:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Haha! That's exactly what I was thinking when I was writing the reply.... Maybe I should AGF a little more! Ryan Postlethwaite 19:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

uh..Just a comment why would you put your friend's penis size on the page?Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 19:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it was a joke reffering to the guessed motives of the anons request for unprotection. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at the article history and you'll see ;-) Ryan Postlethwaite 19:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Ryan - have you and Steel been semi-protecting Human penis size? How very Freudian... WjBscribe 19:18, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

It really hurt me doing it, some of that vandalism was the best I'd seen! Ryan Postlethwaite 19:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I think its 1 of the best vandalism I've ever seen too.Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 19:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

first diff I click on - says it all! Ryan Postlethwaite 19:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Ewwww! And remember, men with big penises should not be allowed edit WP! :D - Alison ☺ 19:46, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Now watch as a line of guys come over here to say they're offended by that remark and will continue to edit as they see fit. Friday (talk) 19:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks for that revert; and Phaedriel semi-protected my user page to prevent that from happening. Acalamari 20:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, that ones blocked now so he won't be troubling you again. Ryan Postlethwaite 20:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Witton Albion F.C.

I noticed they were at it again. I threw a basic 24 hour protection on it to keep the IP's away. IrishGuy ^talk 21:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it's probably for the best, I was just popping over to do it myself but you got in first! Ryan Postlethwaite 21:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea what the issue is with that guy (or guys). What is the point in altering the seating capacity? Odd... IrishGuy ^talk 21:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

The link you reverted to does not have anything in it which sources the capacity. That's why I reverted myself when I reverted it in the first place. Corvus cornix 23:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

the edit you reverted back to was a string of IP socks that are causing disruption to the page, hence why I reverted. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:18, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I understand, and I was going to admonish the editor for removing a sourced assertion, but the source is wrong. Should we just leave it there because it's being edit warred over, even if it's wrong? Corvus cornix 23:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

There is a source that says the capacity is 4,000 - not 2,300 but I can't think for the life of me where it is, from what I remember it was on the BBC website, I'll take a look at it tomorrow because I'm in bed! Ryan Postlethwaite 23:51, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

RE:RfA

Thanks, but I didn't feel like having my entire RfA rest on the public's opinion of a controversial image. --tjstrf talk 00:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

It was an unfortunate incident, but as I said, I really hope you try again soon. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Grasso's industrial refrigeration equipment

You deleted Grasso's industrial refrigeration equipment as blatant advertising, which it probably was. You might consider trying to put together an NPOV article on the company, though, since it's probably notable. The indoor ski run in Dubai described at http://www.grassoglobal.net/Dutch_Prime_Minister_B.817.0.html sounds particularly odd. --Eastmain 01:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

interesting, I'll have a bang at it tomorrow, try and get some sources together and cut the crap out of it! Cheers, Ryan Postlethwaite 01:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Decline protection?

Why the decline on the following ...

• The Work of J.G.A. Pocock
• Miscellaneous Works of Edward Gibbon
• The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
• Edward Gibbon

Please do tell.

There is a known anon sockpuppet editing these pages. In contravention to a block put on the user. What else can I do? J. D. Redding 01:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately you're just going to have to revert and report them. We only protect pages if there's multiple vandalisms occuring each day (normally at least 10), these articles really aren't getting hit that bad at all, sorry. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry? Why is there protection then ... Can you tell me where else I can report? They been noted at the incident board ... report there again? ... What can I do? J. D. Redding 01:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

This is a problem. As Dman727 noted, this is a daily thing! J. D. Redding 01:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

We are the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, so we only use protection in very serious cases - this case, as yet doesn't warrent protection. If the IP socks do some and cause real problems, then re-request protection. In the mean time, you can report the socks to WP:AIV and quote that they are sock IP's. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Very good. I been editing WP since 2003 ... but thanks for the info on the "free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" ... BUT when a confirmed sockpuppet is editing the pages, don't you think some protection is necessary? Or did you even look before denying it?

WP:AIV shouldn't be necessay ... but guess i'll go there ... Thanks ... J. D. Redding 01:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Well we try and keep pages unprotected so anyone can edit them, if there's a known sockpuppet, we block them, and only protect if they're causing severe disruption. If they do hit, report them to AIV and they'll be blocked. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I did check all the article histories by the way - non needed protection. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Well it doesn't seem like you checked Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Stevewk and from there ... Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Stevewk and this page ... as if you did and checked the listed article histories you'll see they need anon protetion .... J. D. Redding 01:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

No they don't need protection, there's not enough activity, if the sock IP's start causing major disruption then the articles get protected, but it's no where near major disruption at the minute. Look, if you really aren't happy about this, you can start a thread on WP:AN/I, that's all I can suggest. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

It's been posted there before ... geezz ... so ignoring a block for 3RR vios and continue editing as a anon sock is no big deal in your opinion ... ok ... how you become an admin? J. D. Redding 01:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Well post on AN/I again and say your not happy about me decision. To become an admin, you ned to gain the communities trust, wrack up edits in artice space, wikipedia space and user talk space, then get subject to a week long community discussion as to whether or not you can be trusted (WP:RFA). Ryan Postlethwaite 01:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

But you never answered ... ignoring a block for 3RR vios and continue editing as a anon sock is no big deal in your opinion? J. D. Redding 01:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Of course it's a big deal, but that doesn't mean they're causing enough disruption to warrent protection on a load of articles - it's not how we do things, we block the socks, not protect the articles. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

So it's a big deal ... but instead of avoiding disruptions with a protection on a specific set of articles, not a "load of articles" ... as the various Dynamic IP addresses seems the Modus operandi of the person that was blocked ... let him ignore the rules and do what he likes ...

This was an attempt to avoid causing disruption ... and allow users to edit articles that probably DUN (and get his IP addy) for articles "that anyone can edit" ... but they won't as those IPs will be blocked! Ha ... too funny ... this is a run around ... J. D. Redding 02:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I've explained my position, take it elsewhere if your not happy..... Ryan Postlethwaite 02:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

So no more discussion? Should you not be able to discuss why there should be protection on a specific set of articles for avoiding disruptions and have people obey the policies and guidelines ...

I kinda wanted your opinion ... as you are an admin and it seems as if you are not doing the right thing, JIMO. J. D. Redding 02:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

i've explained when we protect articles, then there's massive disruption on a specific article - THIS HASN'T HAPPENED ON THE ARTICLE THAT YOU REQUESTED PROTECTION FOR, I don't need to discuss it futher - I've been clear with my reasoning. Ryan Postlethwaite 02:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

So protection is not a tool to avoid massive disruption? Rather have massive disruption than to prevent it, IYNSHO ... ok ... sounds good. J. D. Redding 03:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Christ, drop it already. You're beating a dead horse. I totally agree with Ryan, ~ don't be a dick. RJASE1 ^Talk 03:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Moving on (eg., last note) ... but ... F##k ###, RJASE1, this is a problem (eg., seeing protection as not a tool to avoid massive disruption ...). Agree with him, but calling people "dicks" isn't helpful (nor WP:CIVIL). Sincerely, J. D. Redding

Of course, but how civil is it to continue to argue ad infinitum when you've alread been given an answer? Drop the stick. RJASE1 ^Talk 03:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Wimt's adminship

Hi Ryan, were you serious when you said on my talk page about not co-nominating Wimt for adminship? I'm positive you were joking but just checking. Regards --The Sunshine Man 09:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I'll add it shortly (lol!), I'm busy reporting bad usernames to WP:UFA (which has a backlog you might want to clear!). Cheers --The Sunshine Man 11:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Dont forget to bring some pictures back of the Manchester meetup, and dont get too drunk (lol!), The Sunshine Man 18:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hehehe, nice one. *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 19:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hehe Drunk I seen that before, and have fun!.Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 19:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Glen Eyre Halls

Hi Ryan,

You appeared to delete Glen Eyre Halls earlier today. I do not recall seeing any discussion about this.

Reasons seem tenuous at best, you claim it to be "an article about a company that doesn't assert significance". Firstly, it is not a company, rather a geographical site. It seems strange that you should have made this error. The article has been around a while with no complaints, clearly marked as a stub and appropriately categorised, with a moderate amount of useful information.

Please reinstate this article and, if you feel it should be deleted, please go through a proper RFD so we can debate its merits.

Thanks AlanFord 17:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

The article was complete rubbish. I turned it into a redirect. Friday (talk) 17:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) There was absolutely no ascertation of notability in the article, it's now been restored and redirected to University of Southampton (I was about to AfD it, but someone got in firt with the redirect which seems like a far better option), take what you want from the article history and merge it in with the UoS page. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I see it was rather worse than I remember it to be! I may one day write the history/restructuring I've been planning on so many Southampton articles, but for now the redirect will do. Cheers AlanFord 17:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Manchester

Hey Ryan, can you be on IRC for a quick chat? WjBscribe 20:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi will, was hoping yo catch you on IRC a bit later, I'm not on my computer at the minute, so havn't got it installed, I'll be back at 11 if you could be on then. Ryan Postlethwaite 20:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Sure - speak then. WjBscribe 20:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Rfa

Just dropping by to say "thank you" for supporting me in my recent my RfA. I passed the vote, and am now an admin. It will take me some getting used to with the new tools, but I thank you again for the trust. Have a good one, and, as always, happy editing! Jmlk17 05:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Usernames for administrator attention

Hi Ryan, I've left a new comment on Wikipedia talk:Usernames for administrator attention about getting a new bot up and running, if you'd like to comment - please do. P.S - you weren't offended were you when I said dont get to drunk, I was only kidding., Cheers --The Sunshine Man 12:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

You sockpuppot!

Looks like this is your sockpuppot Ryan Postlethwaite and I will report you.

I always knew you were a sockpuppot, Ryan! Come on, confess now, don't make things harder on you... Phaedriel - 16:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I got so upset when he thought Ryan was my sockpuppet! He's been here longer than I have, so wouldn't I actually be his... or something?

I forgot about making that account soley to get two admin flags, I haven't got any sockpuppets, I promise!! :-). Anyway, back to the RfA, it just annoys me that we put such ridiculous standards on RfA's when some users have obviously proved themselves capable. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:47, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, thanks again for such support, even if your are presumed to be my sockpuppet... hmwithtalk 16:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Still, that accusation is one of the worst assumptions I've seen for a while. Sockpuppot indeed... Majorly (talk | meet) 16:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

It's interesting Mr William Henry Harrison has been with us a total of 7 days, and he makes the acusation :P Majorly (talk | meet) 16:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed that one, I thought I might have pissed off the wrong person until I checked his logs :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 16:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

What are you trying to say--William Henry Harrison 16:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

That you are a sockpuppet. Or at the very least your opinions should be discounted becaouse you are so very new. "New" users don't vote on an RfA on their 4th edit. Majorly (talk | meet) 16:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I think you should look at the controversy that surrounded that vote and why I did that with my fourth edit. I don't appreciate going through here and see this attack page against me. Especially empathsizing a comment that I crossed out.--William Henry Harrison 17:01, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

It was a pretty bad thing to accuse an admin of don't you think? Anyway, users don't normally discover RfA until at least a few weeks. You're clearly not new... and you haven't been attacked. Majorly (talk | meet) 17:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes this is an attack page and I am notifying the admins. I think you people need to grow up and get some maturity.--William Henry Harrison 17:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually everyone who's contributed to this thread is an admin except hmwith. WjBscribe 17:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Yep, noted the suggestion Mr Harrison :) Majorly (talk | meet) 17:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

William Henry Harrison has been blocked. He had a few self-admitted socks also (one the made a Holocaust denial statement on a talk page). And WJB, now it's everyone except hmwith and R :) --R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 18:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Ryan's a sockpuppet??? *gasp* Maybe his sockpuppeteer is this person! Block her!!!--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 19:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeh! And get me a Ginger Ale <!-- Just looking at that picture Makes me want to Puke --> —Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) ^{(drop me a line)} 23:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Could I get an Abbreviation of this? WReform Group 23:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Love the hidden comment Seth, but please don't abuse edit summaries, I don't want to have to hit that block button again. (yes I saw the hidden comment) Ryan Postlethwaite 23:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Is that your girlfriend or friend or really close friend? heheArnon Chaffin (Talk) 23:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Close friend! Maybein the furture it will be more.......... Ryan Postlethwaite 23:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool I'll be waiting.:PArnon Chaffin (Talk) 23:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Alkivar and Burntsauce

There does seem to be an off-wikipedia relationship between the two, though I do not know what it is. Burntsauce first came to prominence due to his other bad habit: completely blanking artists citing WP:A (which isn't even policy). He continues to do this to this day despite many many many debated on the topic however the more interesting part is the way these articles tend to go:

• Burntsauce reduces a 4-11k article into an 880 byte stub
• gets reverted for vandalism by either IPs or other users
• {optional) a sockpuppet of banned user JB196, who revels in the fact Burntsauce tends to blank out professional wrestler related articles as he wants to do anything in his power to corrupt wikipedia especially wrestling related articles, will appear and post on both Burntsauce and Alkivar's talk page saying Burntsauce's edit was reverted. (Personally this is my absolute largest gripe with the situation as doing anything that gets JB196 satisfaction knowingly should be ignored based off principles.)
• Alkivar will appear, fully protect the article and state nobody can edit the article for a month until sources appear.

Here is a short list of articles in which these events have occurred: Rico Constantino, Bob Saget, Steve Blackman, Rodney Anoa'i, Orville Brown, Chris Candido and Bob Backlund

These are all in the last month alone. Whether Burntsauce's edits are valid is irrelevent to me, there is a definite connection between the two and considering that on some of the pages it went one revert of Burntsauce to full protection with a condescending protection post by Alkivar along the lines of "nobody can edit the article anymore, you can only use the talk page from now on" just makes the whole situation infuriating.

Add to that the Alkivar logs on to log off Burntsauce's block and you have the makings of a personal relationship. –– Lid^(Talk) 15:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Pic

Why are you licking someone? :). People don't taste good. --Endo(Exo) 17:31, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I think his person taste great to Ryan :-).hehe--Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 17:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

That depends on how you do it ;) - Alison ☺ 17:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Gaaah! Can't believe I just said that! - Alison ☺ 17:51, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Heh, too late! :) Acalamari 18:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Ali, kids can see this :D! --Endo(Exo) 20:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Could you please restore this remedy which contains comments by me and others? The remedy itself may have been "revoked" by the proposer after all the negative feedback he received, but the discussion itself should be visible and on the record for the ArbCom members to observe. In a court room, you cannot make an allegation and then "revoke" it, and have it erased from the court records. These are like court records, they shouldn't be simply erased from the ArbCom records. --Mardavich 18:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Celebrity

You're a celebrity now! You're on the Signpost!

oh and are you related to Paul Postlethwaite, The James and the Giant Peach Movie Guy?

Hi Seth, how are you? I know, I made the signpost - I'm honored! No, I'm not related to Paul Postethwaite, or Pete Postlethwaite - I wouldn't be a poor student if I was! Are you enjoying your holidays? Ryan Postlethwaite 23:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Meetup, mails, and mobiles..

Hi Ryan, did you send that mail you said you would on the Meetup page? It would be handy for people to have at least one mobile number so that those who come late won't be left stranded... Cormaggio ^{is learning} 09:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I just realised that my WP-mail wasn't properly set up - I could swear that it had been in the past - anyway, if everyone else is mailed, all's well and good... Cormaggio ^{is learning} 09:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

TortureIsWrong

Are you going to make a request at RFC as you added this to his talk page? It wouldn't surprise me to find sockpuppets. --Wikihermit ^{(Talk • HermesBot)} 05:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I've done so. Please add any information you have. Thanks! --Wikihermit ^{(Talk • HermesBot)} 05:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Shocking about RJASE1 being a puppeteer. He's had a history with TortureIsWrong, too. Makes me wonder about the other crazy names that showed up in one of the contentious discussions at RFCN [3] a couple of months back that I thought were TIW. Flyguy649^talk_contribs 15:37, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I know, it should be noted that RJASE1 wasn't TortureIsWrong, he was TortureIsBad and created that account after TiW was blocked indef. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:40, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone think there should be an User:RJASE1 CheckUser regarding these users? GDonato (talk) 15:44, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

(EC) I didn't think RJASE1 was TiW. And RJASE1 has spent a lot of time on username patrol AFAICS. I do wish I had put in an CU-IP check request on those other usernames at the time (April 1 or so). Definitely too late now, I should think. Flyguy649^talk_contribs 15:46, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to find a CU now to do it for me, but might be an idea setting one up, butI haven't got time to do it. There's someone that's just vandalised my page which I susppect is RJASE1. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:47, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

RJASE1 started TiW's RFCN, GDonato (talk) 15:49, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I had a CU run yesterday that confirmed RJASE1 was TortureIsBad, but he wasn't TortureIsWrong. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

• TiW != any sockpuppet(eer). Correct? GDonato (talk) 15:52, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

TiW hasn't created any socks, well at least not at the minute. Ryan Postlethwaite 15:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

TortureIsdoubleplusungood? Great. User:Jpgordon did Wikihermit's CU (above) 90 min ago or so. If you'd like, I'll put one together for RJASE, with the two recent TortureIs... accts. Any bets on an underlying sockfarm? Flyguy649^talk_contribs 15:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, set one up if you could, make sure you say that a previous CU has already determined the TiB sock. You'll need to go to User:Dmcdevit's talk for evidence of that. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:01, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

GDonato you can't tell by his name?Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:03, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

TotureIsWrong didn't create the TortureIsBad sockpuppet - it was RJASE1, that's why we don't know who created the new Tortureis... sock. Ryan Postlethwaite 16:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Wait, Wait is TortureIsWrong and TortureIsBad are the same?Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:07, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

oo ok...Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:07, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Check User filed. Please feel free to add or amend as necessary. (It's only my second case filed.) Flyguy649^talk_contribs 16:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Umm, the page doesn's seem to be adding to the list of pending checks, though I think I did add it correctly [4] Could you just check that? Sorry and thanks. Flyguy649^talk_contribs 16:34, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. I missed the noinclude. jpgordon gave me a hand. Flyguy649^talk_contribs 17:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Can we include the ones here? They are likely stale but worth a try? (I sense a response saying "not fishing") GDonato (talk) 19:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Conspiracy

Please co-nom Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Mecu 2. --BigDT 01:01, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Conspiracy complete :-) Ryan Postlethwaite 01:09, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I also left a message with Wizardman (who nominated him the first time). The next step is getting Mecu to accept. ;) --BigDT 01:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the co-nomination. I've formally accepted and posted it. MECU≈talk 01:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Please shorten your signature

Hi, the excessive length of your signature makes it very hard to edit talk page discussions. See WP:SIG#Length. Please consider changing it. - ElbridgeGerry t c block 22:19, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

No. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Elbridge has a point; you're sig is kinda long. Your last comment took up 229 characters, only five of which came from your comment itself with the other 224 coming from your sig. Just cut down on the colours a bit, that's all we're askin'. // DecaimientoPoético 00:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

His signature is fine, three lines is acceptable. Majorly (talk) 00:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry guys, but it's not happening. We're writing an encyclopedia, not here to create a battleground for us all to fight on - it's a signature, not a personal attack, spree of vandalism - if your really that bothered - refactor it when you see it, but please, not on my talk page. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Not trying to gang up but why should Ryan have to change his sig, its not inflammatory or anything else, its acceptable. The Sunshine Man 08:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Well I personally like the Signature and wished that I could have something similar ..Cometstyles16:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

O wow same sigs, I wonder if I could change it and make it Gold/Orange.:)Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

My RfA :)

Thank you, Ryan, for commenting on my RfA, which closed successfully with a tally of 76/0/1! I hope I will meet your expectations, and be sure I will continue trying to be a good editor as well as a good administrator :) If I may be of any assistance to you in the future (or if you see me commit some grievous error :), please drop me a line on my Talk page. Again, thank you, and happy editing! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Ryan. If you need anything or just want to pick on the rookie, feel free to :) Cheers. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

User:Flameviper and discussion on WP:AN

If this user is willing to be rehabilitated on Wikipedia, ask him if he wants to help me with some articles - I'd appreciate all the help I can get!!

I'm not always here due to real-life issues, but whenever I am, I'm trying to edit more articles!! --SunStar Net ^talk 20:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

VandalProof

Hi Ryan, I was just wondering; are you having problems with VandalProof as I can see from your contribs you use it, I made about 120 reverts yesterday and then I kept getting these script errors coming up so I tried re-installing it and I was still getting them, its hard to remove from your computer because it doesn't appear in add or remove programmes and I was just wondering if you had any problems with it or knew how to fix it as the VP bug page is moving, thanks in advance. The Sunshine Man 08:23, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi TSM, I do occasionally have problems with VP, are you using the updated version of it? That solved the problem for me, it may be a bug in the program, but I'm not sure. Try restarting your computer - that works for me! Ryan Postlethwaite 20:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Manchester Meetup

Hi Ryan :-) Was the Manchester meetup last night good? The Sunshine Man 08:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it was good to meet everyone! We had a good night, had a few drinks - good to put some faces to names! Ryan Postlethwaite 20:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

A descriptive header

		The Lightbulb Barnstar
		Cheers, Ryan! – Steel 15:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Seconded :-) ! Thanks for putting up with me, WjBscribe 15:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Haha thanks from me too :-). And that's the most practical barnstar I've seen in ages! Will (aka Wimt) 16:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Haha! That's brilliant!! Cheers for a great night guys! Ryan Postlethwaite 20:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Note

I Could use your help.

I moved (Don't Fear) The Reaper to (Don't) Fear The Reaper and A User called Seattle Skier thankfully corrects my honest mistake, but says that for uknown reasons, I was deliberately vandalizing it (I just thought someone had messed up with the parenthesis, I gave her an AGF Warning on her talk page. —Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) ^{(drop me a line)} 20:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Hehe

Sometimes I just have way too much fun. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

And others can't take a joke!! Ryan Postlethwaite 21:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

RJASE1

I guess we lost him. Too bad, really. Flyguy649^talk_contribs 04:51, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Nooo..he was the best WP:UAA reporter ever.. I will surely miss him ..--Cometstyles 13:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I would not be surprised if he re-incarnated somewhere to start with a clean slate after the sock thing. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I will be looking through the WP:UAA history to see if it happens..--Cometstyles 14:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Sysop?

Do you think I have a chance of becoming a Sysop? —Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) ^{(drop me a line)} 01:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)