Sable232

Proper image citation

I would like to re add the image you removed from the Mercury Cougar discussion as it is prudent the Cougars advanced for the time restraint system and is a publicly available government image, What can I do to correctly cite this image as it is in the public domain, Thank you. ~~~~ Luftwaffespectre (talk) 19:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

First, you will need to confirm what governmental organization actually created it, confirm that organization's work is in the public domain, and then use the correct copyright tag (it will almost certainly not be Creative Commons). Someone at Wikimedia Commons may be of more help in determining this.

However, the crash test image is not a suitable image for the article. It is low-resolution, grainy, and does not provide any useful information to the reader. It is impossible for someone who isn't familiar with crash testing vehicles to interpret anything about the image, and it isn't even readily apparent that the depicted car is a Cougar. --Sable232 (talk) 00:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

It was my assumption that because it was a report commissioned by a government agency for the benefit of the public and was distributed/made available on a government website, that it was in the public domain and free for use.

As far as the image is concerned the source was correctly linked as an NHSTA report that confirms the vehicle was a Cougar.

The reason I wanted to add the image is because it demonstrated a well maintained safety space for the drive in a full frontal impact, my goal was to provide real evidence that the Cougar was in fact a safe car for the time and its high accident/death rate was due to the audience (teenagers and young adults) it was driven by at the time. Luftwaffespectre (talk) 01:25, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

As I recall, the image on Commons was credited to Transport Canada yet sourced to a NHTSA document. Being an agency of the U.S. Federal government, NHTSA works are public domain, but I don't know if the same applies to Canada.

The rest of this would be a better discussion at either the article talk page or at the WikiProject Automobiles project talk page. Crash test images are almost never included in articles here. --Sable232 (talk) 15:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

The Crown Vic plant was within Talbotville

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWk5pu_whw0 0:31 he says in Talbotville ontario,how can I use this as my citation? I have only found one vehicle that was built in STAP that had the correct name of Talbotville for location Crownvicsaregood (talk) 01:16, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

A YouTube video is not a reliable source.

Nevertheless, the correct location is Southwold. Southwold, Ontario is the legal township the factory was located within. Talbotville is an unincorporated community about two miles south of the former factory site, so to give that as the location would not be as accurate. --Sable232 (talk) 02:36, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

About recent LTA

This LTA started editing again. Could you please add it to your LTA list? I'll delete my page. 212.154.66.111 (talk) 15:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what LTA you're referring to. Do you have any further details? How long has the LTA been editing? What other IP ranges have there been? I do recall someone making somewhat similar edits in the past, but it's been a while since I've seen them. --Sable232 (talk) 00:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Chevy Tahoe reverts

may i ask why did u revert my edits to Chevrolet Tahoe, [1] and [2]? 83.168.137.1 (talk) 16:32, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Because you introduced an error to an image caption, stating that the truck is a GMT400 when it is clearly a later GMT800 model, and you added a mention of a "GMC Yukon XL" in a paragraph about changes for 1995, when no such vehicle existed at the time. --Sable232 (talk) 16:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

i understand, may i do the changes again, fixing these mistakes? 83.168.137.1 (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

It looks like your other changes were good, so yes. --Sable232 (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

gotcha, thanks, feel free to check out if anything is wrong [3] 83.168.137.1 (talk) 02:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

F150 Revert

Hello sir, may I ask why did u revert my edit to Ford F-Series (fourteenth generation) - [4]? per the usage on Template:Main it ''should also not be used in lead sections. A lead section is always a summary of its own article, not any other; as such, the only appropriate target for a {{Main}} link in the lead section would be the article itself, which is not useful. {{Broader}} may be appropriate in this case.'' the other changes i made are surely not controversial 83.168.137.1 (talk) 00:34, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

{{Broader}} states that it is for use in sections, with the implication that it is not meant for the lead. It also states that is is to be used for an article discusses a subject more broadly, but is not a main article (which should use {{Main}} (emphasis added). For any instance where a generation has been split off to its own page, the original article is the main article.

Furthermore, {{Main}} is what's used in every other instance of this, and consistency should be maintained.

I mistakenly thought that the F-150 Lightning EV had a disambiguated title and wasn't at the main title like it is. I should've checked before reverting the entire edit. --Sable232 (talk) 01:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

can i revert my changes, changing the hatnote to main? 83.168.137.1 (talk) 17:53, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Took care of it for you. I was in the middle of doing that yesterday when I got called away and didn't save the edit. --Sable232 (talk) 22:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

appreciate it 83.168.137.1 (talk) 22:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Milwaukee Metropolitan Area Revert

I would like to know why you reverted my edits on area and population density? The Milwaukee Metropolitan Area is only 1,460 sq mi (https://www.mmac.org/uploads/3/7/9/6/37962993/metro_facts_14.pdf pg. 3). Furthermore, the population density you reverted to includes water, of which the metropolitan area is more than 50%. Population density is always calculated using population over square miles of land (https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-most-crowded-city-in-the-united-states.html ). You also reverted my edits on the Twin Cities, which uses urban instead of metropolitan population and area for its density. Unless otherwise noted, density should be for the metropolitan area only. Both of your reversions contradict Census data and are misleading. 2601:249:8680:4260:604A:1AEC:F9A7:EA76 (talk) 06:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I reverted your edits because you changed sourced information with no explanation and provided no other source. The information in both articles is sourced to the Census Bureau. Whether or not the existing information was correct is irrelevant - unexplained and unsourced tampering with such figures is one of the most common forms of disruption on Wikipedia and is generally reverted on sight.

The density listed on Minneapolis-St. Paul accurately reflects what's in the source, however, the infobox parameter was incorrectly entered, causing it to not appear as "urban" density, which is now fixed. --Sable232 (talk) 22:19, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Red links

"Red links are not a problem and do not need to be removed as a matter of course". So what function do they serve? Apart from the ones that are linked to Wiki.de, why can they stay? Does this mean I can make as many red links as possible, just like all the ones I have removed? Exactly what is the rules regarding creating red links? How many may I create? Troy von Tempest (talk) 04:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

If you had read the guideline I linked, you would know that.

For example, there may be an article on the Dodge Model 30 someday, so there is nothing wrong with that red link.

If you make good on your threat above to disruptively create scores of unsuitable red links, you will likely be blocked. --Sable232 (talk) 00:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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Buick V8

Is there a rule against lists? Even if prose is preferred by Wikipedia, lists and tables are often better for technical info like this, providing more conciseness, clarity, and easier reference. In what way did I duplicate the TOC? AFAIK, I did not remove any conversion templates, they were just moved from prose to tables. Your one legitimate change was restoring any broken links to section headings....so, how to I track links to ensure edits don't break any? Gtofever (talk) 00:33, 7 April 2024 (UTC)gtofever

Yes, prose is preferred, and it's the format that the vast majority of articles use. Making a bulleted list in the article lead that lists out the same things that the table of contents does is unhelpful.

In general, section headings shouldn't be changed without good reason, because they are frequently linked to in other articles. Pay attention to how other similar articles are formatted. Headings should be simple and concise whenever possible - on engine articles, numerical displacement alone is preferred and is overwhelmingly the most common format, so it shouldn't be deviated from without good reason. --Sable232 (talk) 14:06, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

What did you mean by these:

Sable232 comment: This is an encyclopedia, not your personal fansite.

Sable232 comment: Gtofever - enough of this. Gtofever (talk) 19:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

You keep adding esoteric detail and borderline trivia, and making the article difficult for non-enthusiasts to read. More detail is on the article talk page.

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins

Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

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Sport Trac

The T6 Ranger is much bigger than the Sport Trac; the Maverick is almost identical in size. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk/Contribs} 03:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

The Sport Trac is 210 inches long and 733⁄4 inches wide. The 2019 Ranger crew cab is 211 inches long and 731⁄4 inches wide. The Maverick is nearly a foot shorter. --Sable232 (talk) 20:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Safety Recall Reverts

Is it against Wikipedia rules to include safety recall on car models, as you removed these sections that I inserted? @MoCars MoCars (talk) 07:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Not "against Wikipedia rules," per se, but that past discussions arrived at a consensus that recall information generally shouldn't be included. If you disagree, you can open a new discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles. --Sable232 (talk) 21:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Template

If you want to repair / fix templates, go for it. You do not understand the overlinking or redlinks. We can talk about it here. Delectable1 (talk) 22:24, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

On the Aveo article you removed a list of competitors, why? Delectable1 (talk) 22:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Please read WP:Red link.

I have not edited any Aveo article recently; I don't know what you're talking about. --Sable232 (talk) 22:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Sable232, you are creating errors. On the Aveo page you removed a list of competitors, why did you do that? You're not right about the ambulance page. Delectable1 (talk) 22:44, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

I have never edited Aveo and have not made an edit to Chevrolet Aveo since 2019. You are clearly not competent to edit Wikipedia given your surreal accusations, addition of bad grammar in articles, and nonsensical edit summaries. --Sable232 (talk) 17:02, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

You are not an admin. You don't even understand this topic. Delectable1 (talk) 06:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

You also made an error, it was a church not a venue. Delectable1 (talk) 06:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

To be honest

To be honest I was trying to fix mistakes that need to be adjusted, like Clayton is correct for the beetle’s Australian production location, so no it’s not Melbourne, even though Clayton is suburb of Melbourne, I’m not trying to be a spambot, I was trying to do a helpful thing that was to fix mistakes on wiki pages to make it was correct, i was trying to fix the page, but not vandalising the article, i hope you understand. Thanks Liam Liam200351 (talk) 14:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

One more thing

It was not disruptive, it was acutally I was saying like I said before I know what is doing, is the last time I’m going to say this but I needed to fix the location of the Australia location, I’m Also good with vehicle knowledge so that you know what was the right location. Can you please leave it as Clayton? Don’t change it to Melbourne please? I hope you understand if not that’s fine Thanks Liam Liam200351 (talk) 15:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes, Clayton is correct. The cited source states (CKD) assembly started in Australia in 1954, with the first fully Australian manufactured Beetle leaving the plant at Clayton, near Melbourne, in 1960. However, there is nothing there that supports the misleading link to Oakleigh that you were adding. Additionally, it's possible that stating Melbourne was intentional. For example, Kansas City Assembly is actually in Claycomo, Missouri and St. Thomas Assembly was actually in Southwold; it isn't uncommon for plants to be described in terms of the major city, not the specific part of the metropolitan area they're actually located in. That said, I won't put it back to Melbourne, but if that was done intentionally before, anyone else may change it back. --Sable232 (talk) 15:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Acutally yes City of Oakleigh was the shire for Clayton back in the day until 1994. Liam200351 (talk) 15:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Oakleigh That was shire Liam200351 (talk) 15:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Again, there is nothing in the cited source that supports that, so there is no justification for linking to it. Furthermore, a Wikipedia reader should not need to be familiar with Australian administrative divisions to be able to understand the location of a car plant. Clayton, Victoria is the only proper article to link to - it even mentions the VW factory. --Sable232 (talk) 15:25, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

In Re: discussion with Delectable1

"Hi Sable232! I hope you're doing well and that your day has been pleasant. I just wanted to leave you a message in order to talk to you about some concerns that I have regarding some of your recent comments and responses toward other editors in some discussions. For example, the comment you made Special:Diff/1231680487. Telling someone they are incompetent is uncivil, and directly conflicts with one of Wikipedia's founding principle's. It's a real bummer to see a discussion turn into something like this, and I just don't want to see you get blocked or finding yourself in hot water with the community because of how you've recently behaved toward others here. I just want to quietly and informally give you a nudge on the shoulder about Wikipedia's civility policy so that you can correct this behavior before it leads you into any trouble. If you need help with anything, have questions, or just need someone to talk to, please don't hesitate to reach out to me. I'll be more than happy to help you with anything that you need. I wish you well, and I hope that you'll take this as an opportunity to self-evaluate how you respond and communicate with others, and that you'll do what you need to do in order to keep calm, remain civil, and keep discussions positive and focused toward our primary goal of building an encyclopedia. Insanityclown1 (talk) 22:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Insanityclown1: - Wikipedia:Competence is required is my reference, and when a user shows not only a lack of English comprehension on the English Wikipedia but refuses to acknowledge the same, that shows they lack editing competence. When a user can make absurd accusations of doing something on articles I either never edited or haven't edited in years, that may not necessarily be a lack of editing competence, but it is never a sign of a constructive editor. I don't believe it is incivility when "competence" is the exact word the linked essay uses. You are, however, correct in the sense that I shouldn't've outright stated that where I did, and I did regret being that blunt after I'd read it again later.

I am, however, bewildered as to the defense that has come to the user in question. While not necessarily flagrant, the grammar and prose errors are clear to me, and the user's refusal to accept that they shouldn't be making such changes is disruptive.

Thank you for reaching out; if I am wildly off base with that AN/I report I will withdraw it, but I do think that Delectable1 needs to be blocked from article space until they can show that they understand the problems with their editing. --Sable232 (talk) 23:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I just don't see the issues you are seeing. The edits are a bit clumsy in places, but don't indicate a below average grasp of the English language in my humble opinion. Insanityclown1 (talk) 23:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about the revert- but good that I reverted so you were notified. I thought you had corrected some 1915 errors but I see it was my own errors in copying. I also see that you erased part of the blockquote. So after reading the blockquote again, I see why you cut it. I had fun writing the article and I thank you for your diligence. Bruxton (talk) 03:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bruxton: No worries. Re-reading it, my edit summary was more pointed than it needed to be, so apologies for that. Suffice it to say I wasn't expecting the edit to be challenged and it was a bit late at night. I felt that where the Electriquettes were stationed at the exposition didn't have much bearing on the history of it, so I didn't think that part of the quote added anything. Thanks for writing the article - I'd never heard of those things before. Quite interesting. --Sable232 (talk) 23:00, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you much! The good thing is when I mess up something it gets fixed by better editors! Hope to see you around the project. Bruxton (talk) 00:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Declined G5

Hello. Thank you for your effort to tag pages, but I've declined your G5 tag on SR Carpați (truck). The reason for this is that the creator is not blocked and hasn't been confirmed to be related to the sockmaster. I understand you submitted a SPI report, but you need to wait until it's been processed to add G5 tags. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Chevy suburban

Why do you keep doing it? 50.207.122.106 (talk) 17:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

You have been reverted by several other editors, not just Sable232. Read WP:OR and WP:RS and WP:BRD. Also, when you edit logged out, your IP location information is visible to all, just so you know.  Mr.choppers | ✎  19:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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Toyota 4Runner edits

Hi. I declined your report at WP:AIV over this edit, and I'll explain why. The clue is in the edit summary, "Mobile edit Mobile app edit Android app edit". It is well-known that anyone trying to edit Wikipedia on the mobile interface is going to struggle, and in this case, somebody has tried a copyedit on an Android phone and managed to get everything in upper case. It looks like a WP:COMPETENCE issue to me, which isn't what AIV is set up for - that's for editors that obviously need to be blocked right now as they're being blatantly disruptive. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: I don't doubt that it's a CIR issue, but given other disruptive edits like this, I don't see any other way to stop the ongoing disruption outside of a block. They seemingly haven't noticed that all but two of their 68 edits have been reverted - how else does one get the attention of someone like this? --Sable232 (talk) 14:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

I've seen this scenario many, many, many times, and the honest answer is you won't get any communication. The canonical example is Cliff1911 who disappeared the minute one admin decided enough was enough and blocked them. I suspect the same will probably happen here; I just don't quite think we're at that stage. You could try a thread at ANI, but I suspect it would end up like this, with a whole bunch of meta discussion about why our user interface sucks for getting people to talk to us. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

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