Sagasti silvia

Brahms in the circle?

Is it accurate to say that Brahms was in Liszt's circle? I know that Brahms visited Liszt in Weimar on at least one infamous occasion, but Brahms' musical philosophy was known to be set against that of Liszt's circle correct? I understand that both von Bronsart and von Bulow worked with Brahms, but would it be more so correct to separate this point from the one mentioning Liszt's circle? Sagasti silvia (talk) 12:30, 13 October 2020 (UTC).

Klindworth Students

Likewise, is there a source that confirms that Hans von Bulow was Karl's pupil (as stated in the opening paragraph). Karl and Hans were the same age and were both pupils of Liszt at the same time (often stated in the Walker - Weimar Years) which would make it very unlikely that you would call Hans a pupil, rather than a colleague of Klindworth. Sagasti silvia (talk) 12:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC).