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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, SchultzM. Thank you for your work on Acequia Madre House. User:Netherzone, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Thank you for creating the article on the Acequia Madre House, an important historical home and center for culture. BTW, last year I created the WP article on the Acequia Madre (Santa Fe), which was the first time I learned about the fascinating history of the Acequia Madre House, and the dynamic women involved in its founding. I made a couple improvements to the article, adding more citations. Because there are so many available photographs that are out of copyright, it would be wonderful to create a gallery section for the article on the house. I'd love to help out with that if you are interested in collaborating.

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Netherzone (talk) 16:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Netherzone,

Thanks a lot for your help! I'd love to work with you on improving the Acequia Madre House article. I added more info on the Eva Fényes article and am now working on entries for Leonora Curtin and her daughter Leonora Paloheimo. Since they founded Rancho de Las Golondrinas from their home base at Acequia Madre House, that connection should also be made. I'm currently locating the archival material pertaining to the house. And finally, I'd like to add entries on all the names I mentioned in the article, so that Sheldon Parsons gets an own Wikipedia entry, etc. SchultzM (talk) 16:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

FYI an edit by Netherzone showed up on my Watchlist, allowing me to find my way to Acequia Madre House article, where I added that it is is contributing building in the Camino del Monte Sol Historic District and the NRHP document for that.

Hey, I see in sections above that you had created the article originally in Draft space, and it was eventually deemed abandoned and deleted. I am sorry that happened. It can be tough to get started in Wikipedia, given various negative processes. I dunno if you've had the (dis)pleasure of enduring the wp:AFD process ever; I don't wish that upon anyone! However articles on historic houses, especially any listed officially on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places or on any local historic registry, usually can be created and developed and will survive the negative processes, at least if you get your work connected in, in certain ways. Please feel free to invite me in, on any future cases! Feel free to post at my Talk page and/or at wt:NRHP (talk page of the NRHP wikiproject) or wt:HSITES (talk page of the Historic sites wikiproject). I'm glad you're on board, and please keep up your good work! cheers, --Doncram (talk,contribs) 18:48, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, @SchultzM and @Doncram, Thank you both for improving the Acequia Madre (Santa Fe) article. When I was working on it, in the back of my mind I thought how great it would be for an article to exist on the Acequia Madre House, and now there is one! I was hoping to add additional photos of the historical house, however those that I found on the UNM digital library did not have a date (or I was looking in the wrong place for a date.) I am guessing the images were taken in the 1920s but can't prove it so have not tried uploading them - yet. I do plan to head out to Santa Fe later in the spring or early summer, and will try to take photos when I am there. It's such a lovely part of Santa Fe to walk! Doncram, thank you for linking to the Camino del Monte Sol Historic District! There are several other historical houses on the list that are still red links: National Register of Historic Places listings in Santa Fe County, New Mexico. I'm happy to continue to collaborate with the both of you. Best regards, Netherzone (talk) 17:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Note I don't happen to see myself or SchultzM in the edit history of the article about the acequia, but SchultzM started and all three of us made contributions in edit history of the Acequia Madre House article. Yeah, there are police lurking over at Commons who are sticklers on the copyright status of photos....

It would be great if you could visit and take pictures and contribute them to Commons for our use! To write about a historic district that I haven't visited myself, I don't often have the luxury of having many photos to work with. Ideally, I personally like to select and use a photo or two of each contributing resource (usually buildings). And when taking pics of an NRHP-listed building, it's great if you can get a perspective view and also a detail pic or two, especially on features that are mentioned in the NRHP document for the district. But, hmm, for the Camino del Monte Sol HD which has more than 100 contributing buildings, that could mean having hundreds of photos ... more than I would actually use. Upload as many or as few as you like, of course. BTW in the last year or so I finally found my way to a nice app that speeds uploading of photos to a Commons category for a district (on my iphone, the app is Wiki Uploader; there are apps for Android phones too). When doing a couple HDs in NYS last year, I found it was important to upload the photos within a day or few days, so that I could still remember which was which building and add some specific identifying info to each photo I had mass-uploaded....

Netherzone, if you're really headed there, I'd be interested to plug along and create articles for the redlinks you notice. It's chicken and egg: having photos makes writing an article easier; having an article which has rounded up the NRHP documents and other info eases and informs the task of taking photos. It's all more fun and worthwhile if there are multiple people interested and collaborating on a defined project (which could be to improve the Santa Fe County list-article and its links, or it could be defined to be smaller). Do let's collaborate! --Doncram (talk,contribs) 18:05, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Doncram and @Netherzone - I'm currently the curator at Acequia Madre House and happy to open doors. Feel free to hit me up at martin@acequiamadrehouse.org and we can organize a tour to look at the house, garden, and collections. The photos from our archive at UNM are all here and we should have detailed info on almost all of them. Plus the former owners of this house were friends with many of the inhabitants of this area and their art is in our collections. I'm currently working on a documentary on Santa Fe as an art hub with an Albuquerque-based filmmaker. Our archives will be the basis for the first episode. SchultzM (talk) 20:16, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@SchultzM and @Doncram, Sorry for the delay in replying! There is another historic house on the National Register for Historic Places that needs a bit of attention in the way of citations and content to support notability, Nicolas Janis House. It'n not in New Mexico, but rather in Missouri. It's the first article by a fairly new editor, @RoiSTL. If you have a few moments to improve the sourcing, I'm sure they will be grateful.

On another note, SchultzM, I will be taking you up on your offer to visit the Acequia Madre House as I will be in Santa Fe for a bit during the late spring and again in the summer. I also want to thank you in advance for being mindful of our WP:COI guidelines, and please do let me know if there are further edits you would like to make to the article. I'm happy to help out with that.

Doncram, sorry for not replying sooner. I'll keep an eye out on the NRHP WikiProject, and will also look for redlinks of notable subjects needing articles, and for existing articles needing photos. Netherzone (talk) 20:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Copyright or Public domain question

Hello, You recently uploaded the content at File:Three Wise Women.jpg and stated this was your "own work". Just to clarify, did you take the photo? or is this a family photo you have inherited? The copyright is the issue, the image is currently released to the public to use under the standard Wikipedia Creative Commons license for anyone to use freely for any reason, so it would help if you please clarify how you own the rights to release this this image for public use? If it is from 1903, it public domain. If it is your restoration of an old photo and your releasing this version as your own work, let us know that as well. Just looking for clarity. It is a nice photo, I'm not sure about the notability of the article, but the photo is nice. Thanks for your help. None of this is a problem, just need clarity. Greetings from Los Angeles,  // Timothy :: talk  22:40, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'm the curator responsible for the collections and took the picture of one of the photos in our archives. We do hold the original photo from 1903 and have used it on our webpage and in several other places. Eva Fényes, her daughter Leonora Curtin, and granddaughter Leonora Paloheimo are known here as the "Three Wise Women", a name coined by the director of the Southwest Museum, Charles Lummis. Several hundred objects from the family's collections can be found in museum in New Mexico and California, the Library of Congress has a collection of wax cylinder recordings (of which we still hold parts), the Smithsonian Institution worked with them on several projects and we still hold quite important collections here. They are part of the Historical Marker Database of New Mexico. These ladies just stayed under the radar and have therefore never really been visible. The article is work in progress, I just wanted to get started. I hope that explains it. SchultzM (talk) 00:58, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes it does, thanks for the clear explanation.  // Timothy :: talk  01:44, 25 March 2023 (UTC)