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POV editing

Hi Scienceis, I'm also a user who added sources stating that Ibn al haytham is Persian and the user Kansas Bear reverted them all, threated me of liar and sockpuppet (this is easy to insult others when being hidden behind a keyboard...). I support your claim and i would like to group with other contributors of Wikipedia to establish that actually we are not sure about the ethnicity of Ibn al-Haytham as sources are not unanimous... So I'm ready to give you my sources and if possible, to make a grouped action with Wikipedia authorities (does they exist ?) to correct ibn al-haytham's ethnicity as being "Arab or Persian". Thanks for your work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E34:EE9D:A200:1850:28C7:7DF9:7DD (talk) 10:33, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Instead of adding sources written by non-historians to push a "Persian" ethnicity on Alhazen, you should try to find historians in the field of Islamic history.

FYI;

• John Child
• Tim Hodge
• Paul Shuter
• David Taylor
  

None of these historian have anything to do with Islam or Islamic studies, thus should not be considered a reliable source.

So far none of the sources you have listed on Alhazen could be considered reliable sources for his ethnicity. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:52, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

There is no need for a historian with specialization in Islamic history. This does not disqualify a historian for this topic. Being a historian makes them relevant to the topic of discussion. Things should not be extremely specific. Being a historian, fulfills the specification we need here, and bounds the limit to the topic. Please do not revert my edits again without reading what I have said. --Scienceis (talk) 21:36, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes, there is. If the subject is a matter of history, which Alhazen's ethnicity is, then a historian is needed. We do not use historians specializing in American history to write medical, vision, or dental articles, therefore, historians specialized in Islam/Islamic studies are required.

Clearly, you have used internet searches to simply support your own opinion(ie. POV pushing). Odd how the Encyclopaedia of Islam states he was Arab! --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:15, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

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