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Aire
The problem with translating "Príomh Aire" ad "Prime Minister" is that it implies "the first Minister to the Head of State - specifically to the King. But there was no King. In this context, the translation is not correct. --Red King 07:33, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Just for info, FearÉireann explains on my talk page that his reversion of your edit without explanation was a cock-up, not a conspiracy. --Red King 18:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Cathal Bruges
Just a note, sorry to take so long to respond to your thoughtful comment. Cheers V. Joe 22:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
The Family Way
Kingboyk, thanks for contributing to my article. I'm a fairly new member and this is the fiirst time that somebody has contributed to an article while I'm still working on it. Makes me feel I'm doing something worthwhile :-)
Scolaire 16:28, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- You're welcome, and indeed welcome to the Beatles WikiProject. Good to have you aboard! :) If you need any help just let me know, or ask on our Project talk page. --kingboyk 17:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 3, July 2006
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Preparing articles for inclusion in Wikipedia 1.0.
It was a bit of a struggle to get this month's newsletter done, as we did it without a lead editor. Hopefully, next month you'll jump in and be our lead editor. Big news is that WP:1.0 is coming along nicely and our article classification system has changed to conform to it. If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 004 – August 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
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Meyer Prinstein
Thanks for creating that article. That proves I was quite right when I told someone today that removing red links encourages editors to create the articles, not the other way 'round. :) Mad Jack 22:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Jack. Actually the article has been around for a while, but entitled "Meyer Prinstein". All I did in this case was fix the link. Scolaire 22:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oh... well, thanks anyway! Mad Jack 22:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 4, August 2006
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Despite it being the lead news article of last month, there is still help required in the assessing of articles and the migrating of comments. Lar is willing to provide assistance to those unsure how to do this.
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As mentioned in the Project News section, The Beatles article has just been listed for a review of its Featured Article status. Working on this is quite important. If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 005 – September 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
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Infobox
- Apologies. I was trying to fix the page with the template when my crappy internet link went down. Where an infobox affects the location of images, the standard solution applied all over WP is simple: change the image placement from right to left (or vice versa if the box is on the left). Because of the nature of the template a reader should be able to link into a lot more than just the piece you left here. I think it is important that people can use the whole template to get access to all the information. The box is designed as a form of crossroads from which a reader can go to everything from political topics to biographies to artistic aspects to links to other strands in Irish history, whether Unionism, Monarchism, etc. So readers should be able in one straight link, for example, to go from here to songs about the Rising (we need some articles about them), or to Sinn Féin, or by jumping to the forthcoming Nationalist template to the IIP, etc etc. FearÉIREANN \(caint) 22:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
That is one of the major benefits of using these boxes rather than categories. Some months ago, as one of the editing team pulling together articles on monarchy on WP I created a template on crowns and crown jewels. At the start probably only about 15 of the 40 or so links to famous crowns were written up. Within a couple of weeks users from all around the world had been spurred on to add in articles on the Iranian Crown Jewels or the Louis XV crown, or the Crown of Mexico, etc. So the template generated those articles, whereas a category list never could, as you need to have a category to have an article link to start off with.
One of the reasons I created this big template is to encourage editors to contribute to those articles already there. I remember as a schoolkid learning The Bold Fenian Men and various other republican songs. (I remember once song from the 1970s: Rubber Bullets for the Ladies!) I am working on a template on Irish monarchism. While doing it I remembered Griffith's proposal for an Anglo-Irish Empire. I'd completely forgotten that. So these templates, especially big ones, whether the republican one or the crowns one, can act as a major spur to having gaps filled in. Over time the template can then be narrowed and focused down but right now it is big to get the ball rolling on ideas and topics that people might not have thought about contributing to until they saw the link. FearÉIREANN \(caint) 23:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Scoláire
Hiya Scoláire. 'I left off the á from my user name just because it's a pain to type in every time I log on.' I just came over to your page from the comment on the Talk:British Isles (terminology) page and saw this. It shouldn't be any trouble at all to get the fadaí. Hold down the 'alt' 'ctrl' and vowel simultaneously and you have them in small letters very quickly: áéíóú. Simple. Hold down the 'alt', 'ctrl', vowel and 'shift' keys to get the fadaí in caps: ÁÉÍÓÚ. Bail ó Dhia. El Gringo 22:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, Gringo. I did actually know about the alt key (I usually use alt-160 for á etc.). By 'a pain to type in' I just meant I haven't the patience to spend the extra 1.3 seconds holding the alt key :P I love your user page, though. a poem about me! And in a fabulous Gaelic font. Did you know you can get séimhiú's on most of those fonts as well, for the real ancient feel (we still had séimhiú's when I was at school)? Scolaire 06:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Aris
Jonto is back again on British Isles doing his usual antics. Yippee. *sigh* Keep an eye out. FearÉIREANN \(caint) 17:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
W.T. Cosgrave
Hi, Peter I think you are mistaken on W.T. Cosgrave. One of the strange quirks of the English language seems to be that where someone is known by a number of initials, and the first name is initialised rather than spelt out, the set of initials are written in one of three formats: (1) bunched together; (2) written with a space between each but no period; or (3) written with periods but no spaces between them. So one writes FDR, F D R or F.D.R. but not F. D. R.; JFK, J F K or J.F.K. but not J. F. K.; PW Botha, P W Botha or P.W. Botha, but not P. W. Botha. Similarly here one writes either WT Cosgrave, W T Cosgrave or W.T. Cosgrave. One doesn't write W. T. Cosgrave however. (I did write W. T. Cosgrave in a college essay once and had it marked as wrong!) English is full of these quirks. Often they aren't even formally defined. They just develop. This article is correctly laid out. W. T. Cosgrave would be incorrect, and also look very strange.
BTW Thanks for the comments on the IrishR template. Sorry if I sounded grouchy earlier when talking about it. Having a bad cold, a migraine, etc does that to me. I am happy with how the boxes are progressing. I just have to do a Unionist box now. They all are still being tweaked to get the overall concept right, but I think they are a useful addition. All too often when we think about a political concept we forget its cultural resonances also. That is why I was so insistent on the cultural bits staying in. Songs and stories play a significant part on shaping a movement or ideals. I think it is a pity that say the {{Socialism sidebar}} box ignores the cultural aspects and focuses exclusively on the hard political. Anyway, I've done three boxes, on Irish Republicanism, Irish Nationalism and Irish Monarchism. All that remains is Irish Unionism. Putting in links to each on each other's templates allows users to jump between the templates, which I think will be very useful in allowing someone who is reading about one aspect of Irish political history to jump to a completely different strand and see the key aspects there. FearÉIREANN \(caint) 00:27, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
"F D R" or "J F K" looks seriously creepy! ;-) Otherwise, I take your point. It might be a point worth making at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Middle names - abbreviations of names.
Scolaire 20:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Having written that, I now discover it has been discussed at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people)#Proposal on spacing of initials in names.
Scolaire 20:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
You might be interested in a RM going on at talk:Prime minister (sic). Some individuals moved the page to that ridiculous half uppercase half lowercase name (if it stays at that form WP will be a laughing stock!) Feel free to contribute to the debate if you wish. FearÉIREANN \(caint) 23:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 5, September 2006
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The featured article status of The Beatles was revoked.
A month of slow progress and some amazing efforts. Still need help getting comments shifted. Don't forget to log your accomplishments! If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 006 – October 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
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1916 Rising
I'm afraid your mistaken in your "infobox" The IRB wre combatants of the war and it is stated by The 1916 provisional Government in 1916 Proclamation. I don't know if you are aware of thid document but it is very interesting in its reference to The IRB; "having organised and trained her manhood through her secret revolutionary organisation The Irish Republican Brotherhood...she strikes in full confidence of victory. This is a pretty clear banner and indication that they were combatants.
I am well aware of the role of the IRB in the Rising, and the acknowlegement of them in the Proclamation. What I'm saying is that the IRB planned the Rising, and a planner is not a combatant. The combatants were the soldiers (i.e. Volunteers and Citizen Army) who fought on behalf of the IRB, if you like. Thus, George W. Bush is not a combatant in the Iraq War, neither is the American Government, or American oil interests — only the American military (and its allies) are combatants. This is not to diminish the role of the IRB in the Rising, just to define it precisely.
Scolaire 18:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 6, October 2006
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The lead article of the Project recently lost its FA status, and now some of the other articles are being reviewed. Citations and references within articles are again the major concern. Contributors who have literature (books, magazines, links, etc.) are especially needed to provide the necessary citations. It is not enough for editors to know the facts; they need to be backed up by other sources. All help, both within the articles and the discussion, would be appreciated.
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 007 – November 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Come back, Kingboyk! The children miss you!
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The Family Way
Hi Scolaire, I noticed that by Beatles Project the article has been set to Start, but in Film Project terms it still has to go some way. I am contributing to lists of films and when I meet a stub without a template, I add one. It helps with sorting and developing film articles. It's not an assessment tag, like the one in the talk page. Just helps film gnomes do their thing. If you see a reason it should not be there, please give me an idea why. It may help me improve my contributions in stub templates. Hoverfish 11:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 7, November 2006
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Again, the issue of the month is inline citations. A Day in the Life, A Hard Day's Night (song), and Get Back have all been defeatured, as they failed to satisfy criterion 1(c) of What is a featured article?, and other song FAs are due for the chopping block. Inline citations are an important aspect of articles—they ensure verifiability and reliability, and they remove original research. Additionally, they give readers the option to read the original source material and view it within context. Basically:
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Wherever possible, editors should help to trim down on list-like prose within Beatles articles. They should convert list-like sections into fluent, cohesive prose which ties an article's sections together. Lists make articles disjointed, awkward, and difficult to read. Be sure to take part in the Featured Article drive, and don't forget those inline citations! If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 008 – December 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
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Duke of Normandy
Salutations. I've no objections to the recent changes you made to my work on the Duke of Normandy article. I'm glad whenever I discover that someone has read my work and deemed it decent enough to make only minor alterations. Rather, I have a specific question: Do Wikipedia guidelines indicate that one should avoid links in title lines? If so I am eager to follow this model in the future.
Another minor question: I noticed you just made an edit to the relatively obscure article on Milo O'Shea. I edited that article yesterday as well. Were you wandering in my contribution tracks (I do that to others sometimes, although no one has ever mentioned that they noticed me) or is that just coincidence?
Best wishes.
WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 8, December 2006
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Wikipedia's standards are improving all the time, with the result that many articles in The Beatles Wikiproject are being nominated for review of their FA and GA status - and many are losing that accolade. It is difficult, with such a large number of articles and the ease with which editors may make changes which are detrimental, to maintain the standard of articles, let alone improve them. As ever, members efforts are both appreciated and needed to keep the Project on course.
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If one is to be mercenary about the subject, it should be noted that Paul McCartney is going to be more noteworthy than usual in the near future as his divorce case comes to court. In that case it is great to note that a small group of Project Members (plus another individual who does not feel compelled to register himself despite important contributions) have worked very hard, and in an atmosphere of good humour, to take the McCartney piece to a succesful Good Article nomination. Perhaps this is the method to use for future articles, a small dedicated team concentrating on one subject at a time. Of course, all members are invited to join any existing group or even go about forming their own. Please note any such action in the Project Log. If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 009 – January 2007). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
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Sources for the status of Irish in NI after St Andrews Agreement
I have written a line or two in the aricle "[Irish Language]]" about the Irish Language Act discussed these days following the St Andrews Agreement but maybe there is more to be written in this article or in aticles specialised in North Ireland. Because I follow the news considering language policy, but I do not have the time to write something more myself about something I don't know enough, I am listing some links for the issue to be used by someone interested:
- a BBC news article [4]
- a comprehensive report from the Irish Times [5]
- the views of POBAL, the umbrella organisation for the Irish language community in Belfast: 8 principles (they are circulating also a Removed black listed link online online petition supporting it). Also a lengthy Proposed Legislation - The Irish Language Act NI, published before the agreement.
- Sinn Fein's view [6] [7]
- SDLP's view [8]
- DUP's view [9]
WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 9, January 2007
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The question of capitalising of the letter "t" in The of The Beatles has been raised again. It appears that UK style references (here and here) also maintains that the letter should be in lower case. If the Project is to be appear professional then it may have to change the format. Polite discussion is invited at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles/Policy. If possible, please provide sources/references to support your position.
It has been a fairly quiet time with regard to the Project (or at least that is how it seems). If you are reading this and wondering why your efforts in respect of a Beatles article has not been mentioned, it may be that you haven't told any editor. This is your Newsletter, which means you can contribute to it, so please do! If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 010 – January/February 2007). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
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WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 10, February 2007
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I look from the wings at the play you are staging While my guitar gently weeps As I'm sitting here doing nothing but aging Still my guitar gently weeps On the reverse of the page appears the lyrics to Hey Jude in the hand of Mal Evans.
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Hottest issue or concern for this month is the perennial matter of Project articles losing their Good or Featured Article status. The main Project page now includes a status board that gives the current ratings of some of the more important articles. Let's make sure the core articles (The Beatles, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr) reach or retain Good Article status, if not Featured Article. If you are aware of another major article whose status is at risk, add it to the board.
Since there has been no response in the matter of the use of lowercase for the initial letter of the when applied with Beatles from the opponents, it is likely that the case for using lowercase only will be adopted as Project policy by default. User:LessHeard vanU will draw up a recommendation and submit it to the Policy talkpage in a few days.
We are pleased to welcome the contributions of Alexcalamaro to this newsletter. Any editor can include an item of interest or news; this medium can be an excellent tool for getting a comment seen by a great number of project members. As it says below, this is your newsletter. If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
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delivered by ++Larbot - run by User:Lar - t/c 03:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 11, March 2007
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See below. There is genuine concern that the Newsletter is getting stale in terms of content and variety, and that the same individuals are featured each month. Furthermore, lack of "news" is hindering the timely distribution as the editors wait for something to report. All Project editors are encouraged to give their news, suggestions and thoughts to keep the 'Letter vital and interesting. If making direct contributions do not appeal, please give a mention on the Newsletter talkpage and it will be incorporated!
Help is needed for the job of putting future Newsletters together. The present incumbent is finding it difficult to reflect the breadth of the Project, focusing on much the same individuals and articles each month, and has decided to beg for contributions from other individuals. Interested persons need only start working on next months issue to qualify. It really is that simple! If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 012 – April 2007). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
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