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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).
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Guideline and policy news
- An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.
Technical news
- Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)
Arbitration
- Following an amendment request, the committee has clarified that the Talk page exception to the 500/30 rule in remedy 5 of the Palestine-Israel articles 4 case does not apply to requested move discussions.
Miscellaneous
- You can vote for candidates in the 2021 Board of Trustees elections from 4 August to 17 August. Four community elected seats are up for election.
Administrators' newsletter – September 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).
Administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- Feedback is requested on the Universal Code of Conduct enforcement draft by the Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee.
- A RfC is open on whether to allow administrators to use extended confirmed protection on high-risk templates.
- A discussion is open to decide when, if ever, should discord logs be eligible for removal when posted onwiki (including whether to oversight them)
- A RfC on the next steps after the trial of pending changes on TFAs has resulted in a 30 day trial of automatic semi protection for TFAs.
Technical news
- The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.
Arbitration
- A request for comment is in progress to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules. Comments and new proposals are welcome.
Miscellaneous
- The 2021 RfA review is now open for comments.
Infobox tractor
Do you have some time to look at Template:Infobox tractor and add the fields I've mentioned on the talkpage? It's inscrutable to non-coders, and I'd like to make better use of it for a series of articles I've been working on. Acroterion (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Acroterion: I will try to have a look sometime. Sorry for the delay answering - I thought I might have gotten to it on the weekend. --Scott Davis Talk 23:10, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, there's no hurry. Acroterion (talk) 23:12, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Hemp-72.png
Thanks for uploading File:Hemp-72.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:19, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- It looks like the articles this was used on are about a political party which is intending to change its name. I think the article edits are premature, but would happen eventually, so this logo is no longer needed unless an election is called before the name change process completes. --Scott Davis Talk 23:34, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
- Following a discussion at the Village Pump, there is consensus to treat discord logs the same as IRC logs. This means that discord logs will be oversighted if posted onwiki.
Technical news
- DiscussionTools has superseded Enterprisey's reply-link script. Editors may switch using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features.
Arbitration
- A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
- Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
- The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.
Miscellaneous
- Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
- The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.
Administrators' newsletter – November 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).
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Guideline and policy news
- Phase 2 of the 2021 RfA review has commenced which will discuss potential solutions to address the 8 issues found in Phase 1. Proposed solutions that achieve consensus will be implemented and you may propose solutions till 07 November 2021.
Technical news
- Toolhub is a catalogue of tools which can be used on Wikimedia wikis. It is at https://toolhub.wikimedia.org/.
Arbitration
- GeneralNotability, Mz7 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2021 Arbitration Committee Elections. Ivanvector and John M Wolfson are reserve commissioners.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves to stand in the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections from 07 November 2021 until 16 November 2021.
Miscellaneous
- The 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of five new CheckUsers and two new Oversighters.
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Nomination of Belvidere, South Australia for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belvidere, South Australia until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Administrators' newsletter – December 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).
Administrator changes
Technical news
- Unregistered editors using the mobile website are now able to receive notices to indicate they have talk page messages. The notice looks similar to what is already present on desktop, and will be displayed on when viewing any page except mainspace and when editing any page. (T284642)
- The limit on the number of emails a user can send per day has been made global instead of per-wiki to help prevent abuse. (T293866)
Arbitration
- Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee Elections is open until 23:59, 06 December 2021 (UTC).
- The already authorized standard discretionary sanctions for all pages relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes), broadly construed, have been made permanent.
Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled
A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- I have assigned myself this privilege as I have created many articles on Australian places, infrastructure, politicians etc with no known issues. --Scott Davis Talk 12:29, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the suggestions on the Nathan Alexander Stedman article
Would you mind reading the cemetery controversy section and let me know if it still needs improvement? I THINK I have it clarified sufficiently. Txantimedia (talk) 06:27, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Australian Senators/dhj
Template:Australian Senators/dhj has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:35, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Australian Senators/lnp
Template:Australian Senators/lnp has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:35, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Merchandise giveaway nomination
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A token of thanks
Hi ScottDavis! I've nominated you (along with all other active admins) to receive a solstice season gift from the WMF. Talk page stalkers are invited to comment at the nomination. Enjoy! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk ~~~~~
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following consensus at the 2021 RfA review, the autopatrolled user right has been removed from the administrators user group; admins can grant themselves the autopatrolled permission if they wish to remain autopatrolled.
- Additionally, consensus for proposal 6C of the 2021 RfA review has led to the creation of an administrative action review process. The purpose of this process will be to review individual administrator actions and individual actions taken by users holding advanced permissions.
Arbitration
- Following the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Cabayi, Donald Albury, Enterprisey, Izno, Opabinia regalis, Worm That Turned, Wugapodes.
Miscellaneous
- The functionaries email list (functionaries-en
lists.wikimedia.org) will no longer accept incoming emails apart from those sent by list members and WMF staff. Private concerns, apart from those requiring oversight, should be directly sent to the Arbitration Committee.
How we will see unregistered users
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Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- The Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines have been published for consideration. Voting to ratify this guideline is planned to take place 7 March to 21 March. Comments can be made on the talk page.
Technical news
- The user group
oversightwill be renamedsuppressin around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections. - The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.
- The user group
Arbitration
- Community input is requested on several motions aimed at addressing discretionary sanctions that are no longer needed or overly broad.
- The Arbitration Committee has published a generalised comment regarding successful appeals of sanctions that it can review (such as checkuser blocks).
- A motion related to the Antisemitism in Poland case was passed following a declined case request.
Miscellaneous
- Voting in the 2022 Steward elections will begin on 07 February 2022, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2022, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- Voting in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey is open until 11 February 2022.
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I am still wondering if you are my younger brother from Ranchester, Wyoming!! I doubt it but can’t stop wondering about it!! If you are, you will remember that we had two older brothers: Jon and Pete. Anyway, please let me know how far off from the truth I am on this!! Nancy Lee 96.64.255.66 (talk) 00:20, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- @96.64.255.66: Hi Nancy. Way off the mark, sorry. I'm the eldest in my family and have lived in Australia for generations. I hope you find your brother. --Scott Davis Talk 01:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
- A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.
Technical news
- The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. (T296645)
- Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. (T25020)
- The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. (T295389)
Arbitration
- Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.
Miscellaneous
- The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
- Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
- The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.
Nomination for deletion of Template:Port Wakefield railway line
Template:Port Wakefield railway line has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nigej (talk) 20:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Possible assistance for a new Wikipedia editor
Hello! I am currently new to Wikipedia editing, having taken up a university course where we are encouraged to work on a stub article and turn it into a B- or C-class article. I have noticed that you are relatively active on here, and are a member of the Australian history WikiProject. I have chosen Peter Nicol Russell who was a Scottish/Australian engineer and philanthropist in the 1800's. If you had the chance, would you mind assisting me with providing some advice on the article via its talk page? I'm also looking for someone to review and grade the article per the Australian history WikiProject or the Biography WikiProject guidelines if you (/you know anyone who) can help Many thanks!! Chasseur99 (talk) 07:24, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- An RfC is open proposing a change to the minimum activity requirements for administrators.
Technical news
- Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the
deletelogentryanddeletedhistoryrights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928) - When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present. (T284114)
Arbitration
- Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Opening of proceedings has been updated to reflect current practice following a motion.
- A arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has been closed.
- A arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been opened.
Miscellaneous
- Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.
New administrator activity requirement
The administrator policy has been updated with new activity requirements following a successful Request for Comment.
Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:
- Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
- Made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period
Administrators at risk for being desysopped under these criteria will continue to be notified ahead of time. Thank you for your continued work.
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Disambiguation link notification for April 16
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited John A. Humphrey, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page MPP.
(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- I did, marked clarification required. The initials were already in the text, but I don't know what they mean, so tried linking but no disambiguation target seemed to fit. I've left a message at User talk:Nbhistorybuff#John A. Humphrey for the author who introduced the initials. --Scott Davis Talk 10:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Amendment to map to include North-South Motorway?
G'day Scott, I've just finished an update to Tramway Museum, St Kilda. As I hit the "Publish" button I saw the infobox map (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramway_Museum%2C_St_Kilda#/media/File:Australia_Greater_Adelaide_location_map.svg) didn't show the North-South Motorway in orange. Would you have time to update it? If not I can do it in Photoshop but I don't want trample over your work and I don't do .svg files. There is no urgency as far as I'm concerned.
Hmm, the OpenStreetMap people haven't amended their maps with the infill that's been done at the southern end. Just make the connector walk on water?? Best wishes, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 13:25, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- @SCHolar44: You are right, the North South corridor has developed since I made that map, and there are new suburbs that would show at that scale too. I haven't done mapping of that kind for a while, so will take a while to get the tools working and renew my familiarity with them to try to make a map at least as attractive and standard-complying (hopefully better than the current one). Thanks for the reminder to revisit it. --Scott Davis Talk 23:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Scott. No hurry -- and indeed I wouldn't be bothered, myself, about new suburbs but if you're looking for a challenge, doing some landfill wouldn't harm! :-) Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 🇦🇺 💬 at 11:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
- Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.
Technical news
- The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
- A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.
Arbitration
- Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.
Administrators' newsletter – June 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.
Technical news
- Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
- The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.
Arbitration
- Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
- An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.
Nomination for deletion of Template:SAR lines
Template:SAR lines has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:SAR stations
Template:SAR stations has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/SAR left/Melbourne-Adelaide
Template:S-line/SAR left/Melbourne-Adelaide has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/SAR left/Victor Harbor
Template:S-line/SAR left/Victor Harbor has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/SAR left/Willunga
Template:S-line/SAR left/Willunga has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/SAR right/Melbourne-Adelaide
Template:S-line/SAR right/Melbourne-Adelaide has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/SAR right/Mount Pleasant
Template:S-line/SAR right/Mount Pleasant has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/SAR right/Victor Harbor
Template:S-line/SAR right/Victor Harbor has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/SAR right/Willunga
Template:S-line/SAR right/Willunga has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Infobox officeholder
Hello, Scot!
Many months ago (around 6 months) you helped me with a request in regard to the infobox officeholder documentation. Now I'm having another "problem" with it in my homewiki and I thought I could ask you for help. The problem is simple really: Like for other parameters, I get an Albanian term (my homewiki) for the predecessor/successor parameters. The thing is those terms I get don't exist if you look at the template page itself so I don't know where are they exactly coming from. It must be getting them automatically from another template/module but I have no idea from where. Can you maybe help me with this issue? - Klein Muçi (talk) 09:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Klein. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean that in the infobox on English Wikipedia pages, you see Albanian words instead of "predecessor" and "successor"? I can't immediately see anything that would cause that. Before I look deeper, I'd like to make sure I'm looking for the right problem. If I am, could you please help me by telling me what those Albanian words are, and also what the language code for ALbanian is? Otherwise, please explain again what is wrong. I'm happy to try to help, but reading your User page, I'm not sure I'll be much more help. Cheers, Scott Davis Talk 10:46, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm assuming it's actually what you might fear I might mean. :P The question is related to the Albanian Wikipedia. If you look at our template you'll see that it is an exact copy of the one you're using here (assuming you haven't updated it recently) and no translation exists for those 2 terms. Yet when utilized on articles those 2 terms do come translated, not in English. So it must be getting those labels from somewhere else. Almost every template we use is an exact copy of the ones we use here (and we update accordingly) so it depends on how the template is set to run here because we do have the same configuration. Maybe you've set it to to automatically get those terms from, let's say, {{Infobox person}}? Maybe from another template? We wanted to change them because apparently the terms may have been translated wrongly in the place from wherever the template is getting those but we do not know "the source" because apparently those 2 terms aren't translated at all at the said template page and normally would come in English (but they don't). Is the issue more clear now? - Klein Muçi (talk) 12:15, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Are the translated words "Paraardhësi" and "Pasardhësi" ? I found those as labels 32 and 33 in https://sq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stampa:Infobox_officeholder/office&action=edit . The English version at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_officeholder/office&action=edit shows "Preceded by" and "Succeeded by". It looks like template {{Infobox officeholder}} has a subsidiary template {{Infobox officeholder/office}}. Scott Davis Talk 12:48, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Aha! Yes, you solved it. That was what I meant. Thank you very much! :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 13:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I am glad I could help. Have a good weekend. Scott Davis Talk 13:14, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Aha! Yes, you solved it. That was what I meant. Thank you very much! :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 13:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Are the translated words "Paraardhësi" and "Pasardhësi" ? I found those as labels 32 and 33 in https://sq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stampa:Infobox_officeholder/office&action=edit . The English version at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_officeholder/office&action=edit shows "Preceded by" and "Succeeded by". It looks like template {{Infobox officeholder}} has a subsidiary template {{Infobox officeholder/office}}. Scott Davis Talk 12:48, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm assuming it's actually what you might fear I might mean. :P The question is related to the Albanian Wikipedia. If you look at our template you'll see that it is an exact copy of the one you're using here (assuming you haven't updated it recently) and no translation exists for those 2 terms. Yet when utilized on articles those 2 terms do come translated, not in English. So it must be getting those labels from somewhere else. Almost every template we use is an exact copy of the ones we use here (and we update accordingly) so it depends on how the template is set to run here because we do have the same configuration. Maybe you've set it to to automatically get those terms from, let's say, {{Infobox person}}? Maybe from another template? We wanted to change them because apparently the terms may have been translated wrongly in the place from wherever the template is getting those but we do not know "the source" because apparently those 2 terms aren't translated at all at the said template page and normally would come in English (but they don't). Is the issue more clear now? - Klein Muçi (talk) 12:15, 17 June 2022 (UTC)