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At least there are no more *!&#*$ questions to answer

The truly shitty part is over; I found my crat chat less stressful than the RFA itself just because there was no longer anything I had to do. You handled yourself with grace. It's a rough time to try to be an admin; everyone is so bloodthirsty about everything everywhere all the time. Floquenbeam (talk) 17:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

To be honest, the questions didn't bother me, although the implication that I should have skipped work to answer quicker did. I'm naturally inclined to explain my reasoning, and since responding to people is frowned upon, it's the only route I had to do so, excepting the one reply I did make.

A lot of it baffled me a bit, with opposition based on not enough experience in contentious areas, and too much editing in contentious areas. Looking at my bare edit counts on notice boards, rather than any specific edits showing I was lurking for drama.

I guess now I'll wait and see. Also, number one RFA reform, automatic closure at the end of the week. Having an actual deadline to look forward to makes it easier, and watching it roll on by wasn't great. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

I hope you write a debrief after because I'm dying to know how you thought this was going to go as compared to how it went. Also what your wife has to say about cratchats. Levivich (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

If you're wondering how I thought it would turn out, here's a few snipped from emails with Vanamonde93 when he first brought up me running for RFA. I really do appreciate it, but I already have one job I don't get paid enough for. Also, I can almost guarantee I would fail due to the GSoW Arbcom case. I'm always interested in critiques for my editing, though, and I'm interested in what you'd suggest. Thanks for reaching out... For RfA, there's also the fact that a decent number of editors I've interacted with believe I'm a sock. Again, if you saw my earlier OS emails, before I made an email address for wiki-business, you saw my real name, so you can reasonably assume I'm not a deep-cover operative, but that doesn't really prove anything, especially to people who don't have that information. Even after emailing my personal information to Arbcom when Spartaz accused me of being a sock I still ended up blocked, and had to disclose my employer to UTRS. A couple little things like that and the Arbcom case can easily swamp an RfA.

Also, from an email with El C, Oh and just so it's recorded before the RFA starts, I'm expecting a fail at 65-75 percent.

I'm a goddamn psychic. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Those must be the two most persuasive salesmen in history. Levivich (talk) 19:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

When Vanamonde93 reached out to me since months after our first exchange I had recently seen and helped deal with a fair bit of talk page harassment and other LTA shenanigans. I figured that it would be worth it to reduce the response time on some of that, and that there's no time like the present. 18 months and nearly 30k edits would give people as much information as any other amount of time or edits, so here we are.

El C didn't approach me, I approached them, since I believed they had never nominated someone, and also they're my number one arc enemy. I also see them on my watchlist all the time, protecting pages and the like, and have respect for their admin work.

I approached another admin about a nomination, but they declined, presciently noting the clusterfuck it was going to be.

I also approached Jamie, because they're one of the first admins I interacted with and grew to respect, and we've popped up at the same disputes quite a few times, and they're familiar with my editing.

In hindsight, I should have waited for Spartaz to reach out too. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

@Levivich: If there's one thing I'm known for in RL, it's not letting go of a problem just because it's difficult :) I'd like to think I was persuasive. I'm feeling a bit guilty for having been persuasive and having put SFR through this crap. Oh well. Crat-chat's still on the edge, could still be worth it. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I spoke too soon, or too pessimistically. It looks like you're good. I for one am glad I don't have to persuade you to do it again in 12 months :) Vanamonde (Talk) 20:37, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't know that you would have been able to. That was quite the experience. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Thought as much. It was, indeed. Mine was quite unpleasant in similar ways, in that there were lots of aspersions and comments questioning integrity. But for the most part experienced users were very much in my corner, the admin vote broke 70-1, IIRC...yours was rather different. I'm glad there was acknowledgement of how off-base some of the opposition was. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

(e/c) Different things bug different people, I guess; I felt like 1/2 of my questions were of the "perform for me, dancing monkey!" type. I found that so much more annoying than the wait. Anyway, good luck. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• Amen. My massive debrief from 2021 — not completely accurate to how I feel about my run now ("I guess" would change to "yes"). The crat chat was the easier part, as at that point there was little else for me to do. The hard part was waiting for half a week for the chat to close, but it fortunately looks like that won't be happening for you. Good luck. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:38, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

  That's quite a read, and I certainly recognize those feels. I don't know that I would write a whole thing like that, I much prefer discussions to essays. Also I always feel when I'm writing an essay style thing that no one is going to be reading it, whereas in a discussion there's the back and forth, and the questions and replies can lead me to provide better understanding. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• Hopefully they decide in your favor. You seem to have run into a couple of veteran users with some pretty serious sticks they continue to clutch furiously and refuse to set down...behavior that wouldn't be tolerated if they weren't so veteran. I fully expect the normal round of pearl-clutching about there "not being enough admins" to begin in short order if this RfA doesn't succeed. My activity has never been especially high, and it's those kind of antics that keep it that way. Still, for what it might be worth, I think you'd make a fine admin. Not being a major content creator also means you're not vested in particular areas and can weigh in on conduct instead of content. Intothatdarkness 22:53, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

  I appreciate the well wishes and the confidence in my ability. I've always tried to get involved in topics where I have no interest because when I was just a back page lurker I'd often see that if there were just a little more input or one more disinterested party, a logjam could be broken. That's why I try and stay on top of my RFC bot notices. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• I'd like to add my thanks for your mature, detached RfA behavior. You stayed engaged in the process and handled questions in an adult manner. One way or the other, I appreciate your extended effort and hope to see you around when this clears. If I can be of help, feel invited to call on me. BusterD (talk) 01:57, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

  I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions, and plenty of times when I need a hand. I'll make sure to reach out the first time I accidentally block myself. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:38, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I cannot promise "to the death"

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Black (Tamzin) to move

That being illegal (and, much more importantly, T&S-indeffable), but I can offer some mediocre chess skills, if desired. Shamelessly copied from theleekycauldron's better implementation. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 22:58, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not much of a chess player :/ I'm just good enough to enrage my wife's old roommate. Now go, there's a game I'll play for hours. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

What the hell. Kings pawn to 4. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Queen's pawn to 6. Also, just realized you said "against death". But hopefully I'm a decent stand-in. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 23:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, isn't that an iconic scene? I think I saw it in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

You're dating yourself. Levivich (talk) 23:39, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

I talked to Bons Courage about playing MajorMud and Swords of Chaos, I think that's worse. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:41, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

ability to implement a user talk page chessboard: proficient

ability to not get my rook forked like a 700-rated newbie by Extraordinary Writ: next to none :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

We're about to see my ability to get mollywhopped by Tamzin. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh you are massively overselling me. I have a decent endgame from a childhood spent losing to my grandfather. But, emphasis on "losing". Also I fucked up the parser function in the template there. As I often quote in edit summaries when I break things, "Support. We need more admins with strong technical skills". (Don't think that's a quote from anyone in particular, but, general sentiment.) Anyways, h5. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 00:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I have strong technical skills, but I still fuck up wiki stuff all the time. Every time I move a page in certain I'm going to end the world. KB to QB4. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh yeah, pagemoves terrified me for the longest time. I only started making them with any regularity when I got pagemover as part of SPI clerking. Although I think that was partly colored by my early years as an editor, when bad moves could only be reversed by an admin; I never quite shook that sense. QB G4 -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 01:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I think you let me win, but checkmate. I'm sure that I'd be more comfortable with moves if it's something I ever did, but it seldom comes up for me. I just got an email from a well wisher that reminded me of [1]. There's me scaring off me editors with my demeanor. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Seems like you're using the winning strategy pioneered in WarGames :P Elli (talk | contribs) 23:25, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

"how about a nice game of nuclear war?" :P theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:38, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm happy to be the commentator for the match. So far, the early game is following along the well-studied Roy Rogers line, though German players and those influenced by the German greats (Schultz, Weltanschauung) usually call it Witz des Lügners. Solid play so far, and best of luck to both! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:34, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Tamzin's bold bishop move gains her some tempo, and play is now at allegretto. Close bishop-queen contact like this is uncommon in both chess and the Russian monarchical court. Catherine the Great infamously flaunted tradition in both those areas. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I almost got my move in before you made the commentary. I beat Tamzin (she let me win), does that mean I'm an admin now? There can be only one! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

The hardest part was not giving it away! SFR wins with the ever-popular baller's mate, first theorized by Dr. Julius Irving himself. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

There's been some mumbling amongst the judges. Please stand by while they confer. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:28, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Wow, folks! It's not over yet! Tamzin has one mate-ending move to make, called (since the 16th century) the Anbaric Slide. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

If that a fancy way of saying "flip the table?" ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Not quite! One of the ball boys couldn't hold it back anymore and yelled out "King to D7!". The bailiff has removed him from the chambers, and the judges beg forgiveness. This exact set of events played out in an 1883 Bohemian match between Iggy and Los Stooges, but the ball boy was a bell boy. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

That's the extent of my chess knowledge, and I promise that I did not use an anal signaling device to win! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:29, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

There can be only one! Is this the point where you declare yourself to be an immortal? All said in your best Sean Connery brogue? Sideswipe9th (talk) 01:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Time to tank any chance I have for any advanced permissions. Hot take incoming: Adrian Paul is the superior Highlander. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:44, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• congrats'--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you very much! I feel more I'm probably not going to jinx anything by saying that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Victory Fanfare

GG. El_C 21:38, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• [2] Andre🚐 21:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, and thanks for trusting me enough for the co-nom. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

For sure. First and last, though. El_C 21:46, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't blame you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations

	A well-deserved Piña colada
	For staying the distance and keeping your cool through one of the messiest RFAs I have seen. Welcome to the mop corps. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:23, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

My talk page and email are always available, should you wish to discuss anything. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:23, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a ton, I'm sure I'll be reaching out for advice on revdels and the like. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• Congratulations! I would recommend raiding scripts of other admins (so common.js files) at some point and seeing what useful tools you can borrow...long term . --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:02, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

  That's on my list of things to do. I've seen the response helper tag quite often, and that looks like it'll be handy. Thanks! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Congrats!

Been offline for a couple of days although just remembered about your RfA, congratulations on succeeding, I think you are a fabulous editor and will do great as an administrator. Have a great day! 🥂 Blanchey (talk) 22:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Congrats. I just placed your order, be here in about a week. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Should ordered it Amazon prime, probably going to need it soon. Does answering full protection edit requests count as an admin action? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Editing protected pages requires the mop, obviously, but isn't logged in any way, and isn't normally counted among admin actions. If it ever became an issue for counting activity, I imagine it would be taken into account per IAR. I've taken somewhat more admin actions than the table on my userpage suggests, given edits to ITN and DYK. Vanamonde (Talk) 00:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Well, I have a block and a page protection now, so I'm moving up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh please do not ever block me - FlightTime (open channel) 23:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

BTW: I forgot to say it above, but in addition to your crappy T-shirt, you are now entitled to some serious admin bling. Check this out: User:MelanieN/Admin bling. Also, since you said you might take up article protection as one of your activities, you can read my advice on the subject here: User:MelanieN/Page protection. Enjoy your new tools! -- MelanieN (talk) 02:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Finally

Congratulations... that was like going 12 rounds with Mike Tyson.

		The Original Barnstar
		Dilligence in the face of a Mike Tyson RfA... Congratulations! It's me... Sallicio!$\color {Red}\oplus$ 12:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Congrats! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

If you need any help with the tools, or, more likely, want to write a few more GAs, you know where my talk is. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I damn near shit my pants each of the few times I've hit the block button, sure than I'm going to fuck something up, despite checking and double checking contribs and trying to make sure all my settings are right, so I'm sure I'll have questions about the tools at some point.

There's a whole cluster of notable late 19th century and early 20th century educators and activists around Frelinghuysen University that are surprisingly overlooked on Wikipedia. From early spring to mid fall is normally pretty busy for me, because along with my job, I have a small farm that requires a lot of upkeep. I was able to get Rosetta and Jesse Lawson's articles done due to lulls at work, and next time that happens I'm planning on working on the university article. If that doesn't happen in the next couple months, I'll dedicate some personal time to work on it. I don't have a big winter project this year (100+ hours building a bed last winter), so I'm hoping to spend some of that time knocking out articles around the university. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

It's crazy to see how uncivil a discussion over a few extra buttons could be, but you got through it. Enjoy your janitorial position!

—VersaceSpace 🌃 14:12, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations

Please wait 3-5 business days before banning your arch-rivals. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 21:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I will prepare a list of suggestions. Levivich (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

El C is finally gonna get theirs! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:37, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Conversely, do not unblock your allies under the guise of ending a long national nightmare. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Block reason: "botched blocking admin's username" OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• Congratulations. Remember that adminship is not a big deal and this website is supposed to be fun. Andre🚐 21:39, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
• Congratulations. Please make sure to let it go to your head. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 21:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
• Congratulations. Remember, EEng may scoff if you block him for a bit, but his talk page stalkers will tear you a new one, so be warned.... Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

  Ritchie333 did you know the E in EEng stands for EEng? It's EEngs all the way down. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 21:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

  I'm so far down at this point I have to look up to look down. EEng 23:58, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• Per Ritchie, you can practice blocking users by either blocking User:Example or by blocking EEng. I've gotta say, you made me question what I should do, more times than I could remember, but I'm glad I ended up supporting. So, fist, do no harm. I mean, first do no harm, and don't punch me. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:51, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
• Well done ScottishFinnishRadish. scope_creep^Talk 21:49, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Sweet Jesus, someone tell me where the addon to disable rollback from my watchlist is before I end up at arbcom because my cat jumped on my lap. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't think it's Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot, but that might help control where your cat jumps. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:09, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Customizing_watchlists#rollback, perhaps? Congratulations from me as well, by the way: I'm sure I speak for (almost) all of the opposers in saying that we wish you only the best. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:09, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

That's the ticket, thanks. I also appreciate the well wishes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Go to Special:MyPage/common.css and add .mw-rollback-link {display: none;} - one of the first things I did after I got the bit. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:36, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I didn't have rollback before this, and was amazed it would be right on the watchlist. I removed the links entirely. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:38, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi SFR. I had the exact same reaction when I got rollback. Also, because I use recent changes often enough, I found it more comfortable to hide the rollback buttons there as well. In other words, I only use rollback from diffs and user contribs. Just my preference, but if you ever think you want to disable rollback on WL and RC, it's done similarly and would look like this in your common.css:

.mw-special-Watchlist .mw-rollback-link,
.mw-special-Recentchanges .mw-rollback-link{
    display: none;
}

But the real reason I'm here is to second what Extraordinary Writ has said. An opposer myself, yes indeed I wish you all the best:-) Congratulations! --DB1729^talk 05:03, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

• Congratulations! We really need an "I-survived the Crat Chat" shirt... Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 00:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank for quick fix

Thank you for being so quick to fix the non-constructive/incorrect edits to Bruce Campbell's website. It was an experiment to show my science class that Wikipedia was a reliable resource for information. Not perfect....nothing is....but incorrect edits ARE addressed quickly. So when the two comments were corrected (by you) before class was even over....it helped prove my point in a definitive way. I'm done editing now.  :-) Thecritterguy (talk) 17:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@Thecritterguy: I'm done editing now. Let's all hope so; otherwise, you're likely to be blocked. God help your students.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Felicitations

A bit belated, but best wishes all the same. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:26, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Also, great work on your patrolling. Every time I try to get a bit of AIV practice I find you've already taken care of it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:43, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Someone's bored

Special:CentralAuth/ScottishFinishRadish. Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I think a few months back there was a ScottishFinnishRadishisanIdiot or something similar. Having my own trolls makes me feel like I've made it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Ya'll mus' be doin' somethin' right. Hope you thoroughly enjoy adminship! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 20:58, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

IP-block exemption

Hey, I took the liberty of removing your temporary IP block exemption. It is automatically included as an administrator (congratulations, btw). See WP:IPBE. If you think this is a problem, although I can't see why (but what do I know?), feel free to restore the privilege.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

No worries. I actually let the admin who granted it know I didn't need it months ago. I assume the message got missed in the day to day scrum. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:01, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23: In this particular case it's apparently irrelevant, but just in case you didn't already know there is sometimes a good reason for an administrator having IP block exemption. The version of IPBE which administrators get automatically doesn't include Tor blocks, whereas the version that the IPBE bit confers does. That is relevant to, for example, administrators who live in the "People's" Republic of China. JBW (talk) 19:34, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

@JBW: Thanks, I should have read the footnote at IPBE. I'll make sure not to edit while in China. BTW, it's kind of silly not to give administrators the "full" exemption given that they can add the privilege anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:51, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23: Yes, that's exactly what I have thought ever since I discovered that it works like that. JBW (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not like auto patrolled, where an admin may still want extra eyes on their work and therefore doesn't assign themself the right. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:10, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

slàinte mhath, terveisiä Las Vegasista, and turnips ho!

I am horrified to discover I hadn’t !yessed you from the outset. (It has been a weird time at work.) Would it only have been because you’re apparently not a villain and I really love saying “Scottishfinnishradish” out loud in three different accents every time I read it? I am really happy this went your way. Rooty-tooty-rutabaga! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. I would like to confess that until just now I've always read your name as Juliet da llama. Not sure how I misread it so severely. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:39, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

hahaha! that’s way more interesting! It’s just ham-radio-ese for my initials; my best female friend Juliet from professional school 30 years ago vacillates between finding my objective Wikippropriation of her given name disturbing and hilarious. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 04:38, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh, another ham? Maybe I'll see you on the bands once I finally get an antenna put up. I got an icom 756pro a few years ago, shortly after I bought my house, and haven't gotten around to putting up the g5rv my father gave me. I think I have too many hobbies. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for quality articles such as Jesse Lawson and Rosetta Lawson, for Shit flow diagram, and rescuing articles from draft, for handling thousands of edit requests cheerfully and volunteer to do cleaning work, for a cute user name and other humour on display, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2761 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'm glad you like the picture of Thelma. Hopefully some time I get a similarly nice picture of Penelope and my cats, and I can feature them on my userpage as well. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:44, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

looking forward to that --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

September songs

thank you for your sensible thanks below - I told you crats can think --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

travel and strings sound = more pics if you like--Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:39, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Your RFA

— xaosflux ^Talk 21:39, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

You have successfully run through the gauntlet. It wasn't pretty but at least it's over. Congratulations. Cullen328 (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Now it's time for that double bourbon! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• Congrats! You demonstrated thoughtful poise and good humor during a gruelling process. May your adminship be further confirmation of these qualities. Cheers! Jusdafax (talk) 21:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
• Congratulations! Yngvadottir (talk) 21:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
• Now that the Airing of Grievances is over, we can proceed to the feats of strength. Congratulations. Indignant Flamingo (talk) 22:05, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
• Yoooooo congrats! I decided to see what the status of this was, and saw that it had been decided just a bit ago. SWinxy (talk) 22:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• Congratulations! (also: told you so!) Here's your T-shirt! -- MelanieN (talk) 22:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Well done SFR! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 00:42, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

• My foremost congratulations. :) Vaticidalprophet 09:14, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
• Congratulations! --Ferien (talk) 12:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
• A Gin Blossoms album comes to mind here. Welcome aboard! RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
• A very sincere congratulations on becoming one of the few prestigious administrators on this amazing project, cheers! Johnson524 (Talk!) 03:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
• Hello, ScottishFinnishRadish! Looks like I'm a little late but congratulations on surviving an RFA! I hope you find working as an admin satisfying work. Do not hesitate to reach out to veteran admins if you have any questions. We have some admins that focus on particular areas while others are more well-rounded and know a bit about a lot of things. I'm sure there is someone who can offer you a second opinion, it's just a matter of tracking down the right person. Good luck! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks! I've been reaching out quite a bit already, and as you can see below, others are reaching out to me. So far it's been pretty satisfying, although a bit intimidating. Hopefully I'll catch my stride soon. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:24, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

I was trying for a while to to respond to everyone, but I lost track and now I'm far behind, so I'm going to go with this. Thanks to everyone who participated in the RFA, thanks for all the support, and all the congratulations. I have a lot of thoughts on this, and maybe I'll decide to write a debrief or what have you, though that's generally not my thing. I do have a few short points though:

• I read every support, and paid attention to the caveats, suggestions, and warnings. I appreciate the confidence and support, and the critiques. As always, all I can do is try to do better.
• I also read every oppose, and although there were a lot of things I believe were incorrect or uninformed, there was a lot more that was worth consideration. I'll be thinking on a lot of this over the next few days, and be going back over the RFA in the future once I've had some time to fully process. I hope that in time I'll prove myself to be an acceptable admin.
• If anyone has an issue with my actions, admin or otherwise, feel free to stop by and let me know. I may not agree, but I'll always listen, discuss, and consider.
• Dumuzid says it best, reasonable people may disagree.

ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

• Whenever I see these post-RfA orgies of congratulation, I think of Pepys (Christmas Day, 1665): To church in the morning, and there saw a wedding in the church, which I have not seen many a day; and the young people so merry one with another, and strange to see what delight we married people have to see these poor fools decoyed into our condition, every man and woman gazing and smiling at them. EEng 03:16, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Congrats! If you turn out to be some sort of sock I shall be very annoyed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:11, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

What Gråbergs said. But since you're a janitor now we may perhaps at least expect that you'll see yourself to the laundry room. Just be careful in your daily duties not to use too much water and/or corrosive cleaning products where it's not necessary. Good luck! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 12:30, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

• Congratulations! Though I feel I must tell you I have revised my credo; it is now "agree with me or face the dire consequences, immediately and forever." As I said at the RfA, I have no doubt you'll be the kind of administrator Wikipedia needs. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 12:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
• So you read everything except the neutrals? Good to know. Bishonen | tålk 19:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC).

  I assure you that SFR read those, too. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

  ..? Incidentally, I liked your neutral, Chris troutman. It was perfectly logical, and the people who criticised it were being silly, IMO. Bishonen | tålk 19:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC).

  I read the whole thing as it happened, and reread it several times throughout. I read your view almost the moment you added it. I agree that my communication at the arbcom case could have better handled or better targeted. I get that I came off as seeking blood, but I would have been happier with a general warning for civility in the topic area than the targeted warning. The only thing I wanted to see out of the case that I didn't was some sort of reminder or even sanction addressing the COI editing. That turns out to have been a moot point though, since as far as I know, that editing stopped anyway. Arbcom was right in not sanctioning anyone over that, and in that circumstance, they used the minimum necessary to prevent that issue.

  I've mentioned before, and I still think RP would have gotten a warning if they had backed off the negative BLP stuff during the case. I have them notice on their talk page rather than reporting them, and before they got brought to AE I had reached out to some other editors to see if anyone would let them know that they had violated the topic ban, since I assumed they really didn't want to hear from me. I really don't like seeing good faith editors, especially those who've written some great articles, blocked.

  At JP Sears I really tried to ring everything I could put of the sourcing available. I didn't know anything about them before seeing a noticeboard posting about the article and looking into it. After reading all the sources it's pretty clear that he was an anti-covid science shill, but none of them actually said that. I probably should have disengaged a bit from done of the back and forth, and I was really hoping to get consensus for something that hit all the points, but no dice on that.

  I also really appreciate that you think I've done good stuff, because that's really what I try to do.

  When I read your position at my RFA that is, in part, what I was thinking about it. Arbcom cases are seldom a good showing for anybody, and I really tried at JP Sears, and did what I could to keep the over the top defender from derailing things while still keeping to my understanding of BLP and other policies. I'm disappointed that I didn't handle that in a way that would give you more confidence in me.

  I hope that details a bit of what I was on my mind when reading what you wrote. This is also why I don't think I really want to write a full after action report. When I said above that I have a lot of thoughts about everything said at the RFA, I mean I have a lot of thoughts. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:09, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Having had a very contentious RFA myself, I'd just like to recommend to you that you don't overanalyze your RFA, move on from it and, as soon as possible, forget who supported your candidacy and who opposed it. You'll soon find yourself working with admins and editors who argued that you shouldn't be an admin and now that the RFA is over, it doesn't really matter. You just do a good job and prove that the naysayers misjudged your potential. Good luck! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:31, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

• Congrats! Very glad to see you passed :) Elli (talk | contribs) 21:26, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

AIV

159.146.74.26 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) had no edits after the "final warning". I'd responded on AIV, but I know things move fast there. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:05, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

I checked their talk page and saw no responses after the personalized warning, or the other three warnings, and saw that had many more edits they hadn't been warned for, and figured the short block was warranted. I've seen quite a few blocks without the final warning, but if you think I should wait for an edit past the level 4 I'll hold off in the future. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

In this case, I just didn't see any edits since that final warning (unless I misread the timestamp). I think it's case by case, personally, but I tend to learn toward only reporting on AIV after that final warning or in cases of egregious vandalism. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:27, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

If you ever see an action I take that you think is wrong feel free to revert it. To explain my judgement in this case, I decided to block in this case because of the over 24 hours of disruptive edits and no response to other editors reaching out. I didn't have confidence that another warning would have made a difference in their editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:31, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good and reasonable. :) I didn't realize that it'd been that much/long. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:34, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

That's what I always do. If they have received a warning (of any level) and haven't edited since, I will decline to block them. Useight (talk) 17:03, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

/64 blocks

It's always worth checking the /64 range for IPv6 vandals, and most times blocking the range by default even if nothing else has happened on that range. I blocked that ANI troll a few days ago, and have re-blocked for two weeks now. I blocked talkpage access too, since they had abused their talkpages after the first block. I wish there was an interface that gave a notice that individual IPs in a range had been part of a rangeblock. Acroterion (talk) 23:55, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) twinkle now has a handy button to check contributions for the /64, so it's trivial to check for collateral damage. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:58, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Does it? Where's that setting hidden cause I can't see it on the Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences? Or is it in an admin only version of Twinkle? Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm not seeing it either, at least nowhere obvious to me. Acroterion (talk) 00:22, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Straight up, it would be very helpful when filing in a report at AIV or AN3 if we did have a one click button somewhere on the contributions page, so that we could include information as to whether or not someone editing on an IPv6 address has been range blocked recently. Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:25, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

It's in the twinkle block interface. Convert to /64 rangeblock It's usually fine, if not better, to just block the /64 range (2600:1700:E43:7CE0:0:0:0:0/64). Clicking the IP /64 gives the contribs. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it's not ideal doing it that way, there are occasions where just the discrete IP needs to be blocked, but it works. You can always uncheck the /64 though. I'll enable the default and see how I like it. Acroterion (talk) 00:36, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Clicking the IP in that section brings you to the range contributions. I think that may be what Vanamonde was talking about. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to have to start checking that. Always feel free to toughen up any blocks I make. I'd rather be a little bit weak to start, until I'm a bit more experience. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Having enabled the block /64 by default, it provides a few more options, though it's still a bit clunky to do a thorough check of the individual ips in a /64 to see if there is collateral damage. I just tried it out on a rapid-fire repeat customer. Acroterion (talk) 00:48, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Vanamonde, I tend to fall into habits with some of the tools. @SFR, most new admins are pretty cautious until they have a good feel for the consensus of how to deal with the problems an admin encounters. That's a virtue. It takes a little while to get a good feel for whether you're doing what other admins would do, something that despite RfA expectations, is not really possible to properly appreciate before you've used the admin tools for a while. I try to gauge my actions against what most other admins are doing and adjust accordingly. Acroterion (talk) 00:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

IP

I noticed your response here. Could you take a moment to look at this IPs edits? Huge edits in a short time; most reverted. Promotional in tone, deceptive sourcing, sometimes nonsensical. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately I won't have time to look into this for several hours. The edits certainly aren't great, and I agree with your summary of their general quality. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)